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-FranklyMrShankly-
29-3-10, 17:02
Looks a really decent player. Maybe we should make a move?
TheGhostOfDotTeeVeePast
29-3-10, 17:05
Has had a good season, but i don't think we need him next year.
maradona4liverpool
29-3-10, 17:08
that you scott?
-FranklyMrShankly-
29-3-10, 17:10
Has had a good season, but i don't think we need him next year.
Well with Carra and Kyrgiakos both aging, you never know. Soto doesn't seem like a very permanent option in any case.
Ross-The-Big-Man
29-3-10, 17:12
that you scott?
get a grip you sad little man.
scott dann is a good young player could learn alot from soto and carra
maradona4liverpool
29-3-10, 17:15
get a grip you sad little man.
scott dann is a good young player could learn alot from soto and carra
it was a joke you numpty besides who rattled your cage?
if i wanted to talk to a monkey i would have thrown you a banana, now pipe down and do one....
TheGhostOfDotTeeVeePast
29-3-10, 17:15
Well with Carra and Kyrgiakos both aging, you never know. Soto doesn't seem like a very permanent option in any case.
I think they'll both be here next season.
Ross-The-Big-Man
29-3-10, 17:18
it was a joke you numpty besides who rattled your cage?
if i wanted to talk to a monkey i would have thrown you a banana, now pipe down and do one....
you getting these jokes from the 1969 joke book? or is this how look it takes for jokes to get to your country.
L-E-S-S-T-H-A-N
29-3-10, 17:24
steady on lads. stop arguing
SergioGeorgini
29-3-10, 17:25
He's had a good season
Personally, I think James Tomkins from West Ham is worth looking at, especially if West Ham go down
maradona4liverpool
29-3-10, 17:25
you getting these jokes from the 1969 joke book? or is this how look it takes for jokes to get to your country.
what?
i'm english my dear so i guess that does make me foriegn to you...
i'm done with you now so like i say, do one..
TheGhostOfDotTeeVeePast
30-3-10, 08:15
hes crap
Behave.
Playing well in a good defence, not sure if he's LFC material yet though.
PejiVanbasten
14-9-10, 10:52
The one that got away. he is a born and bred liverpool fan and was a liverpool fc season ticket holder. he joined walsall as a kid as he somehow went of our radar. at 23 now, he is showing what a class player he is for birmingham and has been linked with a move to united!
all i can say is - DAMN!
LIVERBIRDONMYCHEST
14-9-10, 11:45
shame that, i didnt know he was a Liverpool fan. I now have a small idea how Everton fans must have felt watching Mcmanaman, Fowler Carra etc all playing for us :D Their youth scout and coaches from that time must have been proper ****e
The one that got away. he is a born and bred liverpool fan and was a liverpool fc season ticket holder. he joined walsall as a kid as he somehow went of our radar. at 23 now, he is showing what a class player he is for birmingham and has been linked with a move to united!
all i can say is - DAMN!
All i can say is he's harldy a world beater is he?
GonadTheBarbarian
14-9-10, 14:46
The one that got away. he is a born and bred liverpool fan and was a liverpool fc season ticket holder. he joined walsall as a kid as he somehow went of our radar. at 23 now, he is showing what a class player he is for birmingham and has been linked with a move to united!
all i can say is - DAMN!
one good game doesn't make a season. The fact he is a Liverpool fan probably upped his game as a point to prove.
Red-And-Proud
14-9-10, 14:48
Dann! Dann! Dann! DANN! DANN!
and so on
GonadTheBarbarian
14-9-10, 14:52
has anyone else noticed that Scott Dann rhymes with Arda Turan..spooky!
Red-And-Proud
14-9-10, 15:00
has anyone else noticed that Scott Dann rhymes with Arda Turan..spooky!
Yes..truly like the twilight zone
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6832818,00.html
Wow the press already suggesting problems between Dalglish and Comolli in regards to recruiting players? :FP:
kirkbyallymac
24-3-11, 15:46
Sky lies at it again, we need better quality than Dann, even thouh he as progressed this season
HenryGondorff
24-3-11, 15:46
Wow the press already suggesting problems between Dalglish and Comolli in regards to recruiting players? :FP:
yeah, read that and thought exactly the same thing
I don't think there's any problems, I'm sure Scott Dann isn't the only player Kenny has highlighted.
If disgareements bring in more suarez quality players, then let them disagree :)
LongTimeNoPost
24-3-11, 15:53
yeah, read that and thought exactly the same thing
My understanding is that Kenny decides which players he wants signed. After all he's in charge of team selection. If he says he wants a new centre back, and highlights the attributes he wants him to have, Comolli just goes out and finds the best possible match. Comolli is in charge of negotiations and identifying the talent, Kenny gets final say over whether he wants them or not.
Hollywood-Rose
24-3-11, 15:58
Kenny proberly doesn't even want Scott Dann. Its just more rumour rubbish.
ShayGuevara
24-3-11, 15:59
My preferences in order:
1/Micah Richards
2/Gary Cahill
3/Simon Kjaer
4/Scott Dann
5/Shawcross
Hopefully we can pull off signing Richards or Cahill but if not Dann would be solid at least. Easy for him to look good in such a defensive team though.
Subotic i think would be a good partner for Agger
@whatahitsonlfc
24-3-11, 16:02
Would be an absolute quality addition. We need more quality depth at centre half as I am expecting us to let Skrtel or Soto leave in the summer.
I'd probably still play Carra and Agger first choice, but Daniel is very fragile so having Dann as cover would be brilliant. I'd then expect Dann to take over from Carra as our commanding scouse centre back in 2012/13.
If Birmingham go down, this will of course increase our chances of getting him.
He's a good age, will improve, home grown (scouse), vocal, and pretty decent with his feet. :scarf
What's wrong with Andre Wisden?? :confused:
ShayGuevara
24-3-11, 16:04
Subotic i think would be a good partner for Agger
We wont get him mate Dortmund have CL football next season and could do really well in it.
Would be an absolute quality addition. We need more quality depth at centre half as I am expecting us to let Skrtel or Soto leave in the summer.
I'd probably still play Carra and Agger first choice, but Daniel is very fragile so having Dann as cover would be brilliant. I'd then expect Dann to take over from Carra as our commanding scouse centre back in 2012/13.
If Birmingham go down, this will of course increase our chances of getting him.
He's a good age, will improve, home grown (scouse), vocal, and pretty decent with his feet. :scarf
Do you think he has enough quality? I like him but not sure he's as good as Cahill, Richards or Kjaer who we've also been linked with. I agree I expect Soto or Skrtel to go also.
@whatahitsonlfc
24-3-11, 16:11
We wont get him mate Dortmund have CL football next season and could do really well in it.
Do you think he has enough quality? I like him but not sure he's as good as Cahill, Richards or Kjaer who we've also been linked with. I agree I expect Soto or Skrtel to go also.
Yes, I've watched him a lot since he joined the Prem to see what all the hype was about and he is a class act. He's composed on the ball like Agger and reads the game well, being scouse is also a big plus in my eyes.
I also like Cahill but havn't seen as much of him. Richards I like at right back, but I think he's just too eratic and prone to mistakes to play centre half. I'd rule Kjaer out as I really want and hope Kenny goes for a home grown player.
Yes, I've watched him a lot since he joined the Prem to see what all the hype was about and he is a class act. He's composed on the ball like Agger and reads the game well, being scouse is also a big plus in my eyes.
I also like Cahill but havn't seen as much of him. Richards I like at right back, but I think he's just too eratic and prone to mistakes to play centre half. I'd rule Kjaer out as I really want and hope Kenny goes for a home grown player.
I think Micah Richards is one of the best headers of the ball in the PL. He can play as well! I'd have Cahill over Richards though.
AnfieldSouth41
24-3-11, 16:18
is he any good.
Meireles-is-Spence
24-3-11, 16:20
Being a local lad is always a bonus. I like him and think he could do a good job.
Not bad player, but I would prefer Cahill or Sakho.
12fatboyred
24-3-11, 17:29
Would be an absolute quality addition. We need more quality depth at centre half as I am expecting us to let Skrtel or Soto leave in the summer.
I'd probably still play Carra and Agger first choice, but Daniel is very fragile so having Dann as cover would be brilliant. I'd then expect Dann to take over from Carra as our commanding scouse centre back in 2012/13.
If Birmingham go down, this will of course increase our chances of getting him.
He's a good age, will improve, home grown (scouse), vocal, and pretty decent with his feet. :scarf
Wouldn't put Carra anywhere near the first-team, he destroys whatever we try to do in terms of passing the ball. Soon as we got Andy in you could tell straightaway Jamie would just start hitting long balls all the time to the big striker, half the time the balls that he can't even always win so losing possession.
As for the Scot Danny Wilson he's been playing left full-back & you can really see his been playing out of position, and one thing you can say he doesn't look frail everytime time the ball has come in the air he is always try to attack it compared Carragher/Škrtel/Agger would be more comfortable if the ball was not in air
YoungLFCFanatic
24-3-11, 17:39
We don't need another CB.
Whompy Whomperson
24-3-11, 18:56
Skysports.com understands Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish has identified Birmingham defender Scott Dann as one of his top summer transfer targets.
Dalglish is keen to reshape the Reds squad for next season and he sees Dann as a key addition to his long-term plans.
Dann has established himself as one of the best young defenders in the Premier League during his time at Birmingham.
A number of clubs, including Manchester United, are believed to be monitoring his situation at St Andrews but Dalglish is keen to win the race for the Liverpool-born stopper.
However, any move could prove difficult with newly installed director of football Damien Comolli being involved in all transfer dealings at Anfield.
It is believed Comolli is looking to pursue other targets ahead of Dann even though Dalglish sees the former Coventry man as the type of young, hungry and Premier League proven player he wants to bring into his side for next season
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6832818,00.html
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I dont like the sound of that part in bold If king kenny wants to sign a player he should be able to do so
KingKenny96
24-3-11, 18:59
I suspect it is sky sports throwing a cat amongst the pigeons with the Comolli bit, however I would like dann here :scarf
I suspect it is sky sports throwing a cat amongst the pigeons with the Comolli bit, however I would like dann here :scarf
your definitely right. they should have at least waited till the end of the season. it is way too obvious now. yea dann is a cheaper option to cahill and has more potential as well
I've been saying this for months, I would buy Johnson and Dann as a ready made pairing at centre half, competing with Agger. Skrtel and Kyrgi to go and Carra to be phased out but used as emergency back-up. Ayala to break into the first team next year too.
JohnnyZidane
24-3-11, 19:49
I wouldnt mind seeing Scott Dann signed.
(Manager + Director of Football = Trouble).
I have never seen this guy play, is he anywhere near the quality of Shawcross/Cahill/Jagielka/Upson?
RhysLFC1495
24-3-11, 19:58
I have never seen this guy play, is he anywhere near the quality of Shawcross/Cahill/Jagielka/Upson?
He's a very good centre back who was a Liverpool fan growing up and I saw somewhere he had a season ticket at Anfield too.
IMissHyppia
25-3-11, 09:50
He's young, british, Scouse and if Dalglish see's something in him, what can we say? Sounds like he has a lorra potential too.
Red-And-Proud
25-3-11, 10:00
Where did he start his career, how come ours/bitters didn't spot this scouse young talent, I know he could have been slow to develop, but makes you think
Not exactly a position we need strengthening unless were shipping out some centre halves, carra skrtl agger soto plus ayala will be back, kelly will eventually become a cb and the same with wilson. Thats 7 that could all potentially push for a starting spot.
Skysports.com understands Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish has identified Birmingham defender Scott Dann as one of his top summer transfer targets.
Dalglish is keen to reshape the Reds squad for next season and he sees Dann as a key addition to his long-term plans.
Dann has established himself as one of the best young defenders in the Premier League during his time at Birmingham.
A number of clubs, including Manchester United, are believed to be monitoring his situation at St Andrews but Dalglish is keen to win the race for the Liverpool-born stopper.
However, any move could prove difficult with newly installed director of football Damien Comolli being involved in all transfer dealings at Anfield.
It is believed Comolli is looking to pursue other targets ahead of Dann even though Dalglish sees the former Coventry man as the type of young, hungry and Premier League proven player he wants to bring into his side for next season
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6832818,00.html
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I dont like the sound of that part in bold If king kenny wants to sign a player he should be able to do so
To be honest, It's probably not even true, but even if it is, I don't necessarily agree. It's Commolli's job - he's in charge of idtnefying targets, we have to let him get on with that. I'm sure Kenny knows this too to be fair. He's not one to start causing divisions...
He has been out with an injury for a while hasn't he? He is a good young player, and his partnership with Roger Johnson was quite effective. By the way, the line about potential conflict is sky sports horse ****. Frankly, I would love to know how they would even have a clue to this. Short of them bugging Kenny's office, they're stirring **** up where there is no story to be had.
SthLdnRed1984
25-3-11, 10:29
If everyone thinks Carra's a hoof merchant than just wait til this guy arrives :FP:
Llewelyn-Moss
25-3-11, 12:47
Dann is a very good player and I'd be quite happy if we signed him.
I don't like Sky trying to stir the **** by saying that Comolli and Kenny have different targets. How could they possibly know this?
Lets be brutally honest, if Kenny wants a player Comelli cant do **** all to stop him, because Kenny will just say fine il leave.
gingeZizou82
25-3-11, 12:58
I had hoped the club would be aiming a bit higher this summer if I'm honest. The english theme didn't exactly take off the last time we tried it.
I had hoped the club would be aiming a bit higher this summer if I'm honest. The english theme didn't exactly take off the last time we tried it.
Nor has our forgein one though either! Weve had a couple of good buys but overall most of the defenders from abroad have been utter garbage!
Whompy Whomperson
23-5-11, 19:29
Skysports.com understands a host of clubs are ready to pounce for Scott Dann in the wake of Birmingham's relegation.
Dann's presence was sorely missed in the Blues defence as they suffered relegation on 'Survival Sunday' after losing 2-1 to Tottenham at White Hart Lane.
The highly-rated 24-year-old has not figured since tearing his hamstring during the Carling Cup semi-final clash with West Ham in early January.
Many pundits have suggested his enforced absence has been the contributing factor to Birmingham's demise from the Premier League with defensive partner Roger Johnson looking less assured without Dann alongside him.
In the 18 Premier League games without Dann, Birmingham have conceded almost 50 per cent more goals per game than when the talented central defender has started.
Reputation
Birmingham are expected to lose a number of key stars in the wake of their relegation and Dann is set to be the most sought-after player at St Andrew's.
Dann, who been likened to Alan Hansen and Tony Adams, is in-demand from the Premier League's big guns because of his ability to bring the ball out of defence and his displays for Birmingham have earned him a reputation as one of the best young defenders in the country.
Liverpool have held a long-term interest in Dann and the defender is thought to be high on the list of Kenny Dalglish's summer transfer targets.
However, a number of the other top-six clubs in England are thought to be weighing up moves for the cultured stopper as he would be a better value for money option than several other defensive targets.
I think that he's a top defender. Would prefer Phil Jones over him or Cahill though.
Dont think he's good enough to be a starter here, but he could be more than useful backup.
SergioGeorgini
23-5-11, 19:32
No quotes.
I don't think he's first choice though. If we do end up with him, it will have meant we missed out on Cahill, Jones and Sakho.
Alcohomicide
23-5-11, 19:32
-Cough-Pennant-Cough-
:fishing ;)
Hollywood-Rose
23-5-11, 19:33
The fact he's a local lad and big time Red's fan would be a bonus. Not to mention how Birmingham fell apart since his injury, the lads a top defender and as good if not better than both Cahill and Jones,
gingeZizou82
23-5-11, 19:33
The type of signing the old owners and manager would of done.
Not good enough to help us bridge that gap in quality IMO.
RideTheWalrus
23-5-11, 19:35
Could be a bargain with their relegation. But, Phil Jones would be my top choice.
Cahill is the best defender in the EPL easy! Jones is good yes but Cahill is Quality
LFC-Gorilla
24-5-11, 09:07
Another crocked player...thanks but no thanks!!! Cahill or jones yes yes yes!!!
If we are going to bring in a CB, I would prefer it to be someone who will be a regular starter, rather than another squad option.
Price dependant, I'm sure we'll go for Jones, Cahil or Sakho too if the price was decent enough.
Right now we have Skrtel only in line if Carragher were to retire end of next season or in couple of years. Kelly looks great but he's a centre back by trade yet never played there in first team.
I don't think Skrtel is good enough for LFC first team others disagree. I knwo Agger won't complete a season and i don't think he's a good enough defender either. Soto well lets leave it at that.
Wilson, Ayala, Wisdom all young and untested. So we have 7 centre backs not good enough or too inexperienced IMO when Carra goes.
Thats a lot of players with little certain Prem quality. I believe Kelly can be great centre back as well. If Ayala, Agger, Soto were to move on and Dann and Cahil come in we'd be a lot stronger there
T
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Dann
WTF:FP:, Really?
L-E-S-S-T-H-A-N
26-5-11, 16:18
op. :FP:
Argentina4Falklands
26-5-11, 16:19
did u go on to wiki. change it yourself.
then post it on here for attention?
did u
you wee fisher u :fishing
Yay for Wikipedia!
:scarf:scarf
kopendcraze
26-5-11, 16:19
we can sign messi and ronaldo with wiki, simple and easy :rolleyes:
did u go on to wiki. change it yourself.
then post it on here for attention?
did u
you wee fisher u :fishing
I don't even know how to do that, why would i do that?
I type in his name in the google and that was the first thing that came up.
I not taking this serously its meant to be a stupid joke.:FP:
RideTheWalrus
26-5-11, 16:21
' It is constantly stated that changing the club he plays for on Wiki is an offence with the result of murder.'
At the end of the Birmingham city section was my input... :IN:
gazlfcforever
26-5-11, 16:23
Yoda has also signed. True it is.
Centre-Half
26-5-11, 16:23
No he doesn't, he plays for Accrington Stanley apparently :FP:
Yay for Wikipedia!
:scarf:scarf
:D
I just thought it was weird so I posted it on here, end of.
It is weird, I didn't even know you can change a wiki page.:FP:
L-E-S-S-T-H-A-N
26-5-11, 16:24
I just thought it was weird so I posted it on here, end of.
It is weird, I didn't even know you can change a wiki page.:FP:
how long have you had the internet?
2 weeks?
FamousInternationale
26-5-11, 16:24
Quick, someone add Aguero!
MidTableTeam
26-5-11, 16:26
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Dann
WTF:FP:, Really?
wiki :FP::FP::FP::FP::FP:
Ah the 'according to Wiki we've signed' thread......
That one never gets old.
I'd like to think it was Dann himself that did it.
Ah the 'according to Wiki we've signed' thread......
That one never gets old.
I'd like to think it was Dann himself that did it.
:D
MidTableTeam
26-5-11, 16:28
No he doesn't, he plays for Accrington Stanley apparently :FP:
rofl!!!!!!!!!! look at the fee accrington bought him for on wiki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Centre-Half
26-5-11, 16:31
rofl!!!!!!!!!! look at the fee accrington bought him for on wiki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll take the credit for that :scarf I miss the old wiki thread :D good times :cool:
Doesnt say that anymore.
it must of been changed back by the wiki mods, if that exist.
Clearly someone edited the site and thought it would be funny but you seem disappointed if it were true? He is a much better option than Gary Cahill who is overrated and overpriced!
Clearly someone edited the site and thought it would be funny but you seem disappointed if it were true? He is a much better option than Gary Cahill who is overrated and overpriced!
I would be discipointed if it were true, I think he's Liverpool standard.
I would be discipointed if it were true, I think he's Liverpool standard.
:confused:
Yea it happens alot, i noticed that someone is always fiddling with sammy lee, on Wiki i mean not literally.
Centre-Half
26-5-11, 16:44
Yea it happens alot, i noticed that someone is always fiddling with sammy lee, on Wiki i mean not literally.
:D
lol
I looked earlier and it said that he sells ginger pubes on ebay.
we can sign messi and ronaldo with wiki, simple and easy :rolleyes:
Skip signing anybody and just put us down for a few more titles...
Centre-Half
26-5-11, 16:52
lol
I looked earlier and it said that he sells ginger pubes on ebay.
Leave Sammy alone!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc)
:D
Shut up Sky, shut up and stop stirring.
And shut up.
Anytime you see the term sky understands.What it really means is where going to talk some s*** but some of you might just believe us so it's worth a go.:D
The type of signing the old owners and manager would of done.
Not good enough to help us bridge that gap in quality IMO.
Well said mate. I cant agree more.
I don't think Skrtel is good enough for LFC first team others disagree.
I agree
I knwo Agger won't complete a season and i don't think he's a good enough defender either.
I disagree if Agger could stay fit long enough he would now be considered a world class ball playing centreback who would guarantee you between 5-10 goals a season most of them screamers and on the wanted list of every top team in Europe.
Hollywood-Rose
26-5-11, 19:44
Being from Coventry i watched Scott Dann for a couple of seasons at the Ricoh and even then we all knew he was destined for the top. I still can't believe he went to Birmingham and not a bigger club (no disrespect to Birmingham). Dann's also a local Liverpool lad and a huge red's fan. I rate him above Cahill and Shawcross, had he not been injured Birmingham would still be in the premiership.
GonadTheBarbarian
8-6-11, 16:02
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6971179,00.html
uwillnevawalkalone
8-6-11, 16:03
According to skysports he is our target.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11095_6971179,00.html
How would you guys rate him. I myself have not seen him play much.
Woudln't mind him, he's looks better than Skretel.
Excellent news.
Lets move quickly. Loving the way we lose out on one player BUT immediately move onto the next. Very positive thinking by us!
PeterAwesome
8-6-11, 16:05
don't really know him. as a 24 year old he should be good enough to fit right in the first team. is he?
GonadTheBarbarian
8-6-11, 16:05
Dann is just as good as Phil Jones and £7m cheaper.
would still dearly like sakho to come in
Great bit of journalism that.
SS understands that Dann could be on Liverpools radar
Wouldn't mind him here though, but one of Skrtel and Aggers days could be numbered.
evil-in-a-closet
8-6-11, 16:07
to me cahill>>dann>>>>jones
i would be happy with one of cahill or dann
Dann is just as good as Phil Jones and £7m cheaper.
Dann has also stated he is a LFC fan
:scarf
don't really know him. as a 24 year old he should be good enough to fit right in the first team. is he?
Yes!
don't really know him. as a 24 year old he should be good enough to fit right in the first team. is he?
You should know him. It arguably because he got injured that Birmingham got relegated. Suddenly started to ship loads of goals. As I've said, he'd be a great signing imo.
And it would be nice to pay a decent price for once too!
Dann has also stated he is a LFC fan
:scarf
He's a propa scouser, born and bred in Liverpool.
GonadTheBarbarian
8-6-11, 16:09
He's a propa scouser, born and bred in Liverpool.
So he's NOT an OOT!!
would still dearly like sakho to come in
It would be amazing if we got Sakho in..if he came, people will quickly forget about Phil Jones because this guy has the potential to be the best defender in the world in a few years time.
SergioGeorgini
8-6-11, 16:10
Ah....Mustn't have heard me.
A note about phil jones, he is 1.80m, Isn't it a disadvantage when you're a cb?
So he's NOT an OOT!!
No he is not.
Liverpool is becoming scouseafied again... I like it.:p
He seem to earn alot of good talk. I didn't see him either.
Wow the press already suggesting problems between Dalglish and Comolli in regards to recruiting players? :FP:
That article was written in March, been almost 3 months now and seen no further stories so doubt its true.
S.Dann & Sakho, that would be great for our defence, both young and becoming great.
:scarf
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_6971179,00.html
Skysports.com understands Liverpool could train their sights on Scott Dann having seemingly lost out in their attempts to land Phil Jones.
Liverpool had been favourites to land Blackburn centre-half Jones but it would appear the England Under 21 international has plumped for Manchester United, a story revealed by skysports.com earlier on Wednesday.
Arsenal and Tottenham were also interested in the 19-year-old but with a move to Old Trafford pending, Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish is ready to shift his focus to Dann.
The Birmingham stopper enjoyed a fine campaign despite the club's relegation, with Dann's injury coinciding with a miserable close to the campaign for the Midlands outfit.
Dann has established himself as one of the best young defenders in the country during the last two seasons and his progress has not gone unnoticed elsewhere.
It is believed Dann, 24, is desperate to stay in the Premier League and could represent value for money at around the £10million mark in light of the recent fees agreed for Jones and Jordan Henderson.
Arsenal are also thought to be in the running but as a lifelong Liverpool fan the sway of Anfield could work in Dalglish's favour.
subliiimeSuuarez
9-6-11, 11:32
sakho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jones>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dann
shame really
sahko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jones>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dann
shame really
who?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MANC!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DANN!
GonadTheBarbarian
9-6-11, 11:34
Two threads yesterday about Scott Dann!!
And you wonder why the Mods are considering Thread Approval!
Hey that rhymed
it was meant to.....im a poet, you should know it!:D
£10m is too much but it's based on the fact that Arsenal and Tottenham both need CBs. All 3 clubs can afford the player and his wages, so it creates a higher price due to the demand. Obviously we have the advantage where the player wants to come to us (at least thats what we're lead to believe) but when it comes down to it, it will be a bidding war.
Personally, I'd offer Birmingham £8m and the use of Pacheco and Ayala for the season. That would be an excellent deal for us and Birmingham. Get Pacheco and Ayala some game time at a team who will be trying to with the Championship. Both should play a lot with players like Dann and Larson leaving.
Two threads yesterday about Scott Dann!!
And you wonder why the Mods are considering Thread Approval!
oooops.....sorry.....:o
it was the rhyme that got me excited!
Scott Dann is a class defender, let's not be silly and if you haven't seen him play, be honest and don't pass judgement. He was a huge part of the Brum Fortress defence that plagued us. I'd be very happy with him here.
10 million! For a championship player!:eek::FP:
I like Dann but he's not worth that much.
GonadTheBarbarian
9-6-11, 11:37
oooops.....sorry.....:o
it was the rhyme that got me excited!
You're a Poet and You Know It!
subliiimeSuuarez
9-6-11, 11:38
who?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MANC!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DANN!
sakho of PSG much much better CB then jones and dann already
£10m is too much but it's based on the fact that Arsenal and Tottenham both need CBs. All 3 clubs can afford the player and his wages, so it creates a higher price due to the demand. Obviously we have the advantage where the player wants to come to us (at least thats what we're lead to believe) but when it comes down to it, it will be a bidding war.
Personally, I'd offer Birmingham £8m and the use of Pacheco and Ayala for the season. That would be an excellent deal for us and Birmingham. Get Pacheco and Ayala some game time at a team who will be trying to with the Championship. Both should play a lot with players like Dann and Larson leaving.
£23 million on two players though. looks like money spent wisely if you ask me.
that is if henderson actually cost us £13 million...
10 million! For a championship player!:eek::FP:
I like Dann but he's not worth that much.
hey...we have monies to spend! burning a hole in kenny's pocket! :D
Barely worth half of that. He's playing for a relegated team as well, why would we pay £10m?
Don't think he's a big enough improvement on what we have, Ayala impressed at Derby last season and Kelly certainly did well here.
MidTableTeam
9-6-11, 11:42
dann or sakho would be brill
Barely worth half of that. He's playing for a relegated team as well, why would we pay £10m?
because we can???
Well, Henderson wasn't a £13m deal, it was £13m + N'gog. N'gog is a £2-5m player so Henderson was £15-18m. And yes, you have to look at it this way. When you trade in your car, you don't ignore the money you got for your car. The only time you do that is when you thought your car was worth absolutely nothing and N'gog is not worth nothing.
Dann for £10m wouldn't bother me, but I think adding Pacheco and Ayala in the deal where they are loaned for a year makes more sense. We get a good player for the right price and it allows Birmingham to save £5-6m in transfer fees and £1-2m in wages. That's pretty massive considering they're missing out on a huge bit of money by getting relegated.
because we can???
I could pay ten pound for a pint, doesn't mean I am going to.
because we can???
But why should we when he's not worth that? Just because we have money, it doesn't mean that we should be happy to overpay. It's not really improving the squad that much, he's better than Kyrgiakos of course, but you could just promote Ayala or Wilson further.
Dann for £10m wouldn't bother me, but I think adding Pacheco and Ayala in the deal where they are loaned for a year makes more sense. We get a good player for the right price and it allows Birmingham to save £5-6m in transfer fees and £1-2m in wages. That's pretty massive considering they're missing out on a huge bit of money by getting relegated.
Ayala and Pacheco should not be going back down to the Championship IMO.
Well, Henderson wasn't a £13m deal, it was £13m + N'gog. N'gog is a £2-5m player so Henderson was £15-18m. And yes, you have to look at it this way. When you trade in your car, you don't ignore the money you got for your car. The only time you do that is when you thought your car was worth absolutely nothing and N'gog is not worth nothing.
Dann for £10m wouldn't bother me, but I think adding Pacheco and Ayala in the deal where they are loaned for a year makes more sense. We get a good player for the right price and it allows Birmingham to save £5-6m in transfer fees and £1-2m in wages. That's pretty massive considering they're missing out on a huge bit of money by getting relegated.
No it wasn't N'gog hasnt gone according to this mornings Echo. It was 16 mil.
I would take him as 4th choice defender. It would really mean though that Kenny counts with both Skrtel and Agger in the future, as he won't spend big in this area. I really do think if Kenny thought the above two don't have a future here he would get a top top class defender.
I could pay ten pound for a pint, doesn't mean I am going to.
but pints dont cost ten pounds. well not yet they dont!:p
But why should we when he's not worth that? Just because we have money, it doesn't mean that we should be happy to overpay. It's not really improving the squad that much, he's better than Kyrgiakos of course, but you could just promote Ayala or Wilson further.
Ayala and Pacheco should not be going back down to the Championship IMO.
isnt wilson going to rangers on loan???
I say lets stick Kelly at CB next season, we don't need any new defenders really, but if we get Scott Ill back him because I believe in Kenny.
but pints dont cost ten pounds. well not yet they dont!:p
and Dann shouldn't cost 10 mil, I think thats the point. A championship player shouldn't cost that sort of money and if he does there are better options elsewhere.
but pints dont cost ten pounds. well not yet they dont!:p
And Scott Dann's don't cost £10m. Or at least, they shouldn't.
isnt wilson going to rangers on loan???
Apparently, but keeping him and selling Kyrgiakos would be my preferred method. Sell Agger if we can buy a world-class defender, which is unlikely to happen.
No it wasn't N'gog hasnt gone according to this mornings Echo. It was 16 mil.
I'll wait until it's confirmed by more sources. Obviously the details are far from common knowledge at this point.
In the end, £16m is in the middle of £15-18m like I said....
Ayala and Pacheco should not be going back down to the Championship IMO.
I agree and disagree. Obviously its better for us that they play in the PL because its a better league. At the same time, Birmingham is kind of a PL team. They did very very well last year. Considering there going to have a few holes with Dann and Larson leaving and Ayala and Pacheco play the same positions, it's really not a bad deal overall.
Would I prefer a PL loan? Sure. But I also think its more important both players play 30 games. If they get a PL loan, I'm not sure 30 games will happen. At Birmingham, I'd say both stand a very very good chance of getting 30 games.
Ayala is a very intelligent player already so it does him no harm to drop down to the championship where physicallity is so important.
Have to say I think Pacheco is done, if you aren't getting a chance under Kenny it isn't going to happen for you. Debut aside he wasn't great for Norwich by all accounts.
I really dont know is I want to see Dann here, he seems good but for the money we'd pay for him is it not worth getting someone else or giving our own youngsters a try?
I must admit I find it hard to judge Dann as a player. He was apart of a team that liked to sit deep so hard to judge him as an individual. Given their epic collapse after he got injured may suggest I am underestimating him somewhat.
I must admit I find it hard to judge Dann as a player. He was apart of a team that liked to sit deep so hard to judge him as an individual. Given their epic collapse after he got injured may suggest I am underestimating him somewhat.
Well honestly, that's a good thing. Our defense is awful at packing it in. Under Hodgson we obviously packed it in quite a bit and our CBs really struggled. Skrtel especially really struggled during those games. If Dann can play well during those games then he'll get key starts against teams like Arsenal and Chelsea who like to maintain a lot of possession.
Scott Dann is a class defender, let's not be silly and if you haven't seen him play, be honest and don't pass judgement. He was a huge part of the Brum Fortress defence that plagued us. I'd be very happy with him here.
Agreed. People are knocking him without really watching him and seeing how good a pairing he was with R.Johnson. Personally, we want to get every player as cheap as possibly, and I hope (Pray) to God that KK & DC make this double move and get S.Dann (£7-8m) & Sakho (£10m) for a combined fee of £18m!!!!! Sakho is 20/21yrs old, and Dann is 23/24yrs old, which are both very young for Defenders and they can play into their 30's as Carra has. That is value for money too, and with Agger being injured and Skrtel being good but not great, we need competition and also a successor for Carra. I can see S.Dann being that player, and Sakho becoming a Hansen esq defender. I know Jones was KK's prefered choice but S.Dann is no mug in defence and playing for his beloved LFC, he'll raise his game even more and prove money 'well spent by the King. I just hope we land Sakho too.................. would put my mind at ease regarding our defence!!!!
I'm starting to get ********** off, especially if this is true, we are spending unnecessary amounts of money on players, yes we have money but ******* hell stop throwing it about, just smacks of as if we are not arsed now and like 'ohh look at us with all this'.
We could easily get him for less than that so if we start of the pursuit with a £10 mill bid it will be pathetic, does Kenny think he is playing FIFA manager mode or something? :IN: :eek:
Agreed. People are knocking him without really watching him and seeing how good a pairing he was with R.Johnson. Personally, we want to get every player as cheap as possibly, and I hope (Pray) to God that KK & DC make this double move and get S.Dann (£7-8m) & Sakho (£10m) for a combined fee of £18m!!!!! Sakho is 20/21yrs old, and Dann is 23/24yrs old, which are both very young for Defenders and they can play into their 30's as Carra has. That is value for money too, and with Agger being injured and Skrtel being good but not great, we need competition and also a successor for Carra. I can see S.Dann being that player, and Sakho becoming a Hansen esq defender. I know Jones was KK's prefered choice but S.Dann is no mug in defence and playing for his beloved LFC, he'll raise his game even more and prove money 'well spent by the King. I just hope we land Sakho too.................. would put my mind at ease regarding our defence!!!!
Sakho for £10m? No chance.
I'm starting to get ********** off, especially if this is true, we are spending unnecessary amounts of money on players, yes we have money but ******* hell stop throwing it about, just smacks of as if we are not arsed now and like 'ohh look at us with all this'.
We could easily get him for less than that so if we start of the pursuit with a £10 mill bid it will be pathetic, does Kenny think he is playing FIFA manager mode or something? :IN: :eek:
Your so right. You should go and say that to K.Kenny and at Anfield infront of the real fans who know that in the hands of K.Kenny we are heading in the right direction. But with some fans like you, he can't win, can he??? If he don't spend......we're no longer a Big club and losing ground. If he does spend........... he's spending too much. For God's sake............. your not the manger of LFC and neither am I. K.Kenny knows more about Football than your know about most things, all his life he's been a great player, player-manager, manager and ambassador for Football worldwide. If he is spending more than we think a player is worth, there will be reasons behind it and teams like B'ham will want the most they can get for their players. I feel £7m is right for S.Dann........... but I also would understand if KK pays £10m to land his man and not lose out to Spurs or Arsenal in the chase. Gunners are looking to pay £10m+ for Samba, possibly £12m........... under those circumstances, S.Dann at between £8-10m is good business.
:scarf:scarf
Sakho for £10m? No chance.
That's the rumour for his market value in media too. I would have thought £12-14m, but if that's the price.............. it's a damn bargain!!
:scarf:scarf
PeterAwesome
9-6-11, 12:44
we should go for Vertonghen from Ajax
youcanhearthesilence
9-6-11, 13:04
........... but I also would understand if KK pays £10m to land his man and not lose out to Spurs or Arsenal in the chase.
:scarf:scarf
Dann could refuse to go to to arsenal/spurs if he prefers Liverpool as an option - Birmingham's position would then be weaker.
Mamadou sakho (http://www.football-pictures.net/data/media/574/mamadou-sakho-wallpaper-1200x800.jpg)
MexicanPiggy
9-6-11, 13:10
You're a Poet and You Know It!
No, I'm a poet but I didn't realise.
MexicanPiggy
9-6-11, 13:11
Mamadou sakho (http://www.football-pictures.net/data/media/574/mamadou-sakho-wallpaper-1200x800.jpg)
Without all the weird hair and peircings I think he reminds me a little of Sissoko.
SergioGeorgini
9-6-11, 13:14
"Dann's a fantastic man Lynn. He really is."
I hope Martin Kelly get's a run in centre next season. We are well covered at right back with Johnson and Flanagan. We need to get a partnership going. I reckon Kelly - Skrtel might be best.
dann is no better then skrtel or agger for me, i couldn't see him being signed and walking straight into the team unlike sakho.
TheDarknessIsCalling
9-6-11, 14:04
If you can get Dann de man, he's got a tan, a van and at least one fan
Hollywood-Rose
9-6-11, 14:09
I'm from Coventry and i remember watching Scott Dann play at the Ricoh a few times before he moved to Birmingham. My friend who supports Coventry said "if he goes to Liverpool he'll captain England one day" and i believe him. Top defender, and being a local Liverpool boy and big Red's fan, he is taylor made for this club. Jones is a good young defender, but in my opinion Dann is a better choice for us anyway. You know his heart will be in it. Trust me when i say, if Dann never got injured last season, Birmingham would still be in the Premiership.
TheDarknessIsCalling
9-6-11, 14:26
Trust me when i say, if Dann never got injured last season, Birmingham would still be in the Premiership.
Their defence was as good as, and better than, other teams in the league. They couldn't score enough goals, I believe the fewest by any team and they paid the price.
Look at the centre of our defence currently...
Agger - quality player but is injured too often.
Skrtel - consistent player but we could find better.
Carragher - quality player but getting old and should have a player to learn from him while he's still here.
Kyrgiakos - I don't like him, very inconsistent and average at best.
Kelly - quality right back with centre back as his preferred position.
Wilson - very good left back with centre back as his preferred position.
Ayala - Good loan spell and did well when he played for us.
I don't expect all of them to leave this season but Agger, Skrtel and Kyrgiakos will go, Carragher will take a player/coaching role and Kelly, Wilson and Ayala + Wisdom in the academy will take over. We need a player like Dann or Sakho to create competition and have more cover for all players.
ssn understands liverpool are locked in a battle with arsenal for scott Dann.
this could speed up the transfer for the player who prefers us :scarf
better than jones imo
RedsRunRiot
12-6-11, 19:35
Interesting...for all the reasons you just stated, and the fact I consider him a better choice than Jones (money included).
Coutinho_to_Greatness
12-6-11, 19:36
Surely he would walk to Anfield. And going by early indications te money shouldn't be a stumbling block. :scarf :scarf
Seeing as he's a liverpool fan i'd expected him to come here
hoping kenny snaps him up quicker now there is more intrest!
for the money he would cost is an absoloute snip :scarf
cheap considering he's young and english
PeterAwesome
12-6-11, 19:41
looks good
Transfer season looking good atm. We're looking like a top team now.
madmonkey01
12-6-11, 19:42
yeh this is a few days old now, i think the full article was posted earlier in the week.
would be a good signing for us.
comeontheredmen
12-6-11, 19:45
Transfer season looking good atm. We're looking like a top team now.
Do you mean were acting like a top team? In the transfer Market that is.
Because as far as I can see, we've only signed Henderson and that alone hasn't made us a top team (yet)
Do you mean were acting like a top team? In the transfer Market that is.
Because as far as I can see, we've only signed Henderson and that alone hasn't made us a top team (yet)
Yes.
RedsRunRiot
12-6-11, 19:48
Transfer season looking good atm. We're looking like a top team now.
I don't know. Don't get me wrong, I like reading about us being linked to Mata, Aguero, Alonso and purchasing Henderson. But sometimes I secretly look at old posts just to remember how we all posted about the insecure nature of our club and it's possible financial meltdown just a year ago during the summer months. :o Memories :o
Suarez7Aquilani14
12-6-11, 19:57
Dann is very meh. I just hope we beat them to Downing. Why are they after all our targets ffs!? :mad:
Dann is scouser
no chance for Arse
If Dann came he would be 4th choice, he is similar to Carra or Soto, good heading decent tackling, pants on the ball, if he has time he will pass it 5 yards if he doesn't it will go Hoof, would also rather clear the ball into row Z than find a player.
He could improve here but would be back up, Id rather we work on Kelly. We could get him cheap though and he supported us.
I doubt we are interested though we wanted Jones, Dann would be a panic buy and I don't think we do that anymore.
For me I'd want someone younger with better potential or a better player like Cahill ( who still isn't as good as Skrtel or Agger ).
Would not be against Dann signing, but I would prefer us to go and get a top notch CB if we're in the market. Do not know how realistic a Sakho or Cahill is, but would like to see them here before Dann if possible.
Would not be against Dann signing, but I would prefer us to go and get a top notch CB if we're in the market. Do not know how realistic a Sakho or Cahill is, but would like to see them here before Dann if possible.
Sakho would be fantastic. He is a beast but he's not going to be cheap especially now that PSG have Qatari cash
BenWorthoLfc
13-6-11, 14:29
would also rather clear the ball into row Z
Been playing a lot of Football Manager then? :D
Llewelyn-Moss
13-6-11, 14:42
We'll definitely have the edge over Arsenal on this one.
I think we can do better though and the club also do otherwise they would have signed him already.
comeontheredmen
13-6-11, 14:47
People only want Sakho because he has an interesting look & name. For me, Dann would want to play for us more due to his support of the club and being a scouser.
Out of Dann, Sakho and Cahill, i think Dann offers the better value for money.
Been playing a lot of Football Manager then? :D
I don't play games I did watch Birmingham a lot, I watch loads of prem. When I was in Spain I'd watch 7 or 8 games a week, you could get virtually every game.
I'd sit in the local bar which had 8 screens and watch as much as I could because of betting and I like football. Hated Birmingham and their long ball game, Dann defends well and thats about it he is no Agger or Skrtel. Id watch a lot of Spanish games as well as watching Malaga live at the Rose Garden. Would always watch Barca and Real games, and try and go once a month.
I went to Anfield when I visited England at Xmas and Easter.
I am also an ex season ticket holder.
Ive just moved back to the UK so look forward to more games at Anfield.
On the subject of Dann try and watch some footage and you'll see what I mean
HighFlyingBirds
17-6-11, 10:33
Now i wasn't overly sure on this one until i saw how his stats stood up against Phil Jones. But looks like we might be missing out on him
OllieHoltMirror Oliver Holt
Shame Liverpool look like missing out on Scott Dann. Would have been good signing for them.
Honestly, Zapata would be much much better for us than Dann.
Dann is good and solid, Zapata is outstanding. But let's see what happens.
BabelCopter
26-6-11, 22:32
I don't care (and based on the 9-day lull in this thread, I'm guess neither do you), but looks like Dann is going to Stoke...
Tony Pulis has kicked off his summer recruitment drive with an £8million bid for Birmingham stars Scott Dann and Cameron Jerome.
Stoke boss Pulis has moved to test Birmingham’s resolve to keep their players after relegation with a cheeky opening offer for the pair in a deal that could rise to £12m.
Blues are expected to reject the bid for defender Dann, 24, and striker Jerome, 24, but Stoke are certain to return with another.
The Potters’ bid was an £8m down-payment loaded with mega incentives, with the fee rising dramatically if Dann or Jerome earn international recognition or help Stoke into the Premier League top six. But Birmingham rate Dann – also a target for Arsenal and Liverpool – at around £12m.
Jerome has been a long-term target for Pulis and Stoke have moved swiftly to head off interest from Bolton to try to land the former Cardiff forward.
Craig Gardner may quit his beloved Birmingham after *Sunderland stepped up their interest. Wolves are in for Blues’ fan Gardner who scored 10 goals from midfield last season.
Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Stoke-bid-for-Scott-Dann-and-Cameron-Jerome-of-Birmingham-as-Craig-Gardner-ponders-Sunderland-or-Wolves-article752927.html#ixzz1QQ6tI39J
Presumably means that Huth is leaving... to Arsenal?
And I'll expect SSN's assertion that Stoke "beat Liverpool to his signing", ala Marveaux :rolleyes: :FP:
BabelCopter
26-6-11, 22:34
I don't care (and based on the 9-day lull in this thread, I'm guess neither do you), but looks like Dann is going to Stoke...
Presumably means that Huth is leaving... to Arsenal?
And I'll expect SSN's assertion that Stoke "beat Liverpool to his signing", ala Marveaux :rolleyes: :FP:
And yes; it's The Mirror :FP: :D
Dann Dann Daaaannnn!!!!!!!...dont know why i did it...just felt like.....
Honestly lads, it's horses for courses. Particularly in the prem. You can't blame Dann for McLeish's tactics, lumping the ball up to your centre-forward is not exactly new in England... so what does that tell us? Defenders like Dann are worth their weight in gold.
He'd have plenty of ball-playing defenders around him anyway as Wilson and Kelly continue to develop.
Dann, pants on the ball? Harsh. Remember, Skrtl is pants in the air... big, baggy MC Hammer pants in the air. We're still vulnerable from set-pieces, less so with Carrol back there but a centre-half who will dominate in the air would be welcome.
Only issue I have with Dann is injury proneness.
but there is a youtube clip on him dribbling from his own field and score a goal. i do feel he can bring the ball out.
plus playing for this club will bring out 20% more fiery!
changeaname
27-6-11, 18:51
good, been injured for most of the season and no big improvement on skrtel or agger
Lucas4England
27-6-11, 18:56
Scott Dann song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2D3-FkoXNU
i think we should get scott dann hes rock in defense:)
robertretford
1-8-11, 21:15
good, been injured for most of the season and no big improvement on skrtel or agger
No improvement at all.
Shawcross v Dann
Ryan Shawross over Dann any day of the week.
a much stronger defender and will be a lot more commanding .
Only issue is he is about 5 mill more expensive but would be a future l-pool skipper.
noob player imo. we have skrtel agger kelly carra
Four-Five-One
2-8-11, 10:51
We should've made a move for Cristian Zapata who openly stated he wanted to come to us. Instead, we ignore a quality deal when it stares us right in the face. This results in him moving to Villareal for a small sum of eight million pounds. He will be a star. Everyone will see his quality when he is playing in the Champions League.
Good one Liverpool, again.
I noticed 2 things when looking at Dann's history:
1) He has very little PL experience
2) Birmingham were doing well until he got injured, then they nosedived and got relegated
So, although he is a bit of a risk, he certainly seems solid enough and at the right price, I'd say yes. But no more than £8m or so, I think with Birmingham's financial difficulties, we need to take advantage of his apparent desire to come to us.
Even eurosport wrote we don't neeed him :
Eurobot:
Dann would be an odd one for me - even though Carra isn't getting younger, he ain't no better than Skrtel and Agger, and Kelly and Wilson have a lot of potential. Kenny has said most of his work is done, I think the focus is on trimming the midfield and maybe a winger and/or a left-back. Neither a priority.
Finally someone agrees with me and says he ain't better than Skrtel.:scarf
TheRealSheepHead
2-8-11, 17:37
We should've made a move for Cristian Zapata who openly stated he wanted to come to us. Instead, we ignore a quality deal when it stares us right in the face. This results in him moving to Villareal for a small sum of eight million pounds. He will be a star. Everyone will see his quality when he is playing in the Champions League.
Good one Liverpool, again.
He made that comment whilst he was away with whatever nation he's from at the Copa America.
I havent seen enough of this guy to form an opinion.
Is he someone who will improve our defence if we bring him in? Or will he just be another solid option?