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everytime i read that it disturbs me
don\'t even use it for that, it makes your butt even dirtier
redpete : How do you work out that we are advertising the S*n? Have you read the link posted by whoever started this ? Good advert ? I don\'t think so! <IMG SRC=\"http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/confused.gif\">
I have posted this before, but you can hurt the S*n doubly, by buying the Mirror. Newspapers rely heavily on advertising to make their money. Each newspaper has an audited circulation figure that shows potential advertisers how many people read their title. It obviously follows that if you have a higher circulation, you charge more for your advertising.<P>The Mirrir is the closest competitior to the S*n, and so if their readership increases, it gives them more ammo\' to attack the S*n in the marketplace.<P>RedMike
Yellowcard<P>The very fact that topics start with the rags name is promoting it. It will draw people\'s attention to reading it to find why they shouldn\'t <IMG SRC=\"http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/confused.gif\"><P>Whilst threads tell people not to do something, they will do it regardless <IMG SRC=\"http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/frown.gif\">
Redpete, I am afraid I don\'t follow your line of reasoning. <P>After reading about what the S*n printed in April 1989, I am not tempted to read it to find out why so many Reds hate it. So how can you say this thread is \"advertising\" the S*n?
Several months ago, i read the heartfelt reasons why people didnt read that rag.<BR>I never quite understood those reasons until I was directed to learn the history of the issues.<BR>Pilgers column and the stories of Hillsborough posted on this site made me realise the strength of peoples convictions. That day I stopped reading that rubbish.<BR>Several months later I still never read the rag. If I needed to see page three girls that badly, there are more than enough on the net.<BR>I\'m not scouse, but I feel a connection with all my fellow supporters who boycott the s*n.<BR>YNWA
I agree with cyn8.<BR>redpete: There IS such a thing as bad publicity.<BR>YNWA
\"topping up\"<BR>S*N BURN.
Has Anyone Ever Taken Him To Court And Won About What He Printed About Hillsborough??
antob9 : not sure if anybody has the few million pounds it would take to bring a case against a news corporation to court. As far as I know, nobody has tried.<P>zzAll we can do is try to dissuade people from buying the S*n. Some people won\'t know how awful it is until they are told why. Hence the reason this theme keeps coming up on the boards.<BR>
Can I just say while i appreciate the sentiment behind the comments, do any of you subscribe to Sky Sports? Like the Sun newspaper it is also owned by Rupert Murdoch. Has this escaped your notice or are you all going to stop watching Sky coverage of the premier league? The sun is part of Murdochs organisation and as such it\'s views represent those of the organisation.<P>The problem with principals is that it\'s really hard to be consistant on all counts. <BR>It\'s ironic therefore that Liverpool FC receive income from the same organisation. <BR>
Blooby hell he goes on a bit that John Pilger bloke. First few pages though renew my determination to never buy the S*n. It\'s difficult to follow football in this country AND boycott Murdoch completely however.
My point exactly.<P>The sun is the monkey & murdoch is the organ grinder. It\'s a bit hypocritical to subscibe to 1 & boycott the other when their both part of the same thing. I\'ve seen this type of post before & it amazes me that some people can hold both points of view about the same organisation at the same time.
I do very much doubt though that with the size of his empire Murdoch himself had the final say on THAT article so despite my Sky Subscription, with a Sun boycott in force in my household, my concious is clear.
Just so long as you\'ve thought about it <IMG SRC=\"http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/smile.gif\"><P>
there should be a special day where theres a spereate newspaper released so that the newspaper can educate *** who dont know the full story........<BR>so for that certain day everyone would buy it and the money from it should go towards the hillsborough funding, jus make it a few pages, and sell it for like 15p or something.........<BR>this way some *** will realise what happened that day.........
Good thread. Burn the rag.
The paradox here is that when posts like these are viewed, you are in effect advertising the rag. <P>People who say boycott this and that, wouldn\'t know what they are boycotting unless they themselves are reading it!
I don\'t need to read that again. I won\'t ever buy The Sun or The News of the World and I can\'t understand how anyone does. When you go down South and see that everyone reads it I can never get over it. I would say that people have short memories but it was a long time ago, it just seems like it was yesterday to me.<P>Good call to whoever posted this. For those too young to remember take note. If those papers had changed I wouldn\'t back it up. But I\'m afraid that if a similar thing happened tomorrow we\'d get similar reporting from these papers. Don\'t buy em! If there are enough of us............
not read this before, it makes a good read, and 100% backs up everything else I have come across on the matter. It\'s a disgrace.
I wonder how this Kelvin MacKenzie can live with himself. The heartache and pain the families and ALL LIVERPOOL SUPPORTERS went through and he prints (can\'t think of a word to use in the sentence) like he has. <P>I watched the thing they had at Anfield with the 10th anniversary of Hillsbrough and I couldn\'t stop crying. Nobody can even begin to imagine how people who were personally touched by the event could have felt and this piece of trash decides he could make some money out of it at the expense of the feelings of these people.<P>It is really disgusting to see how people will do almost anything to make money.
The S*n newspaper cannot be taken seriously. Even before Hillsborough every story printed was designed to attract a certain audience that thrives off scandal and would also rather look at naked women than read, gosh, news in a newspaper. <P>Minorities of course were and are a favourite target. Simply because they can lose a minorities support, and not really notice it. But for their target audience - 13-45/White/Male - it\'s great fun. Because the S*n does not care for minorities, they do not care about those that were appalled by their coverage of that fateful day. Because, unfortunatly, while they\'ll have lost many readers, lost a minority, they will have gained many more.<P>The S*n newspaper would have too be turned upside down for it to apologise to the families of those that were lost - indeed, to those that were lost as well. Something with such a lack of morals does not change in an instance or a month or a year and so on - it never will.<P>The story did what it intended to do. People bought the newspaper. People who were touched by the disaster bought the paper because they had a need to know how far the lies went. People who were not touched by the disaster bought the paper because it was scandalous and exciting to them. They read that article and read other parts and the newspaper appealed to them. <P>So basicaly, in my opinion, the staff at the S*n may never have believed what they were saying about Hillsbourough, they only cared for gaining more readers and more profits.<P>Which is much worse than the paper believing it was telling the truth. From what I can tell it used the disaster for an increase in profits.<P>Liverpool FC, her fans, the ninety six fans that lost their lives, the familes of those that were lost and all other people that were appaled by what they saw mean nothing to the S*n. It is all a minority to them. Something to mock and use.<P>We can try and spread the word to as many people as we can. But the majority of the people we would find buying the S*n won\'t be dissuaded from purchasing their cheap porn and scandal rag. The Media dominates everything these days, and the S*n is a large piece of that.<P>It is also worth remembering that a number of writers for the S*n have said that they are instructed to write their articals as if they were writing for ten year olds. Trying to explain Hillsbourough to ten year olds is a very difficult task. I know this because I didn\'t understand it at ten years of age. I can remember entering a newsagents at that age with the intention of buying the S*n because of a power rangers offer, I think at least. I was wearing my Liverpool shirt and the newsagent looked at me and the paper and told me \"You don\'t want that\". Thinking this was about the pictures on p3 I pointed out to him that my parents had requested those pages were removed by him. He just repeated the sentament that I didn\'t want to buy it. I asked why and he told me about Hillsbourough. I didn\'t understand and persisted until he removed me from the shop. I ended up buying it elsewhere.<P>A year later, a friend died. This was the first time in my life that I was touched by death and shortly after I began to understand. But it wasn\'t until I was of a certain age that it really dawned on me, and it was often on my mind - I wondered why it was so important to so many people. Now I know.<P>I think i\'ve lost track of the point I was trying to end with. So I\'ll just arrive with it now.<P>The S*n will continue and it will never apologise. And our boycott will never bother them. But for as long as we continue it, we are being true to ourselves and we are saying to the ninety six Liverpool fans that died that we will not forget them, nor allow their memory or their familes memory to be tarnished in our minds.<P>We do what we can for our lost brothers and sisters. That is all that matters.
Thanks for the link, Hardyhaha. That was a really good read. As I\'ve never bought the s*n even before, and certainly not after Hillsborough, I now have 1,000,000 other reasons to look at its cover with complete and utter hatred in my local newsagents.<P>On second thought, maybe I\'ll just avert my eyes!<P>JFT 96*
mightymichealvaughny
3-8-02, 20:40
im young wat did the s*n say bout hillsbourgh
Redpete<BR>People who say boycott this and that, wouldn\'t know what they are boycotting unless they themselves are reading it!<BR>That\'s dangerously close to a vile insult against myself and others on this MB. We don\'t read it because we know what happened 13 years ago. We are certainly not advertising it. There are a lot of young fans on here who don\'t know the truth and I and others just want them to know before they choose to spend their money on that dirty rag.
mightymichealvaughny - scroll down this MB a page or two. Cyn8 is doing a great job of keeping these threads near the top. My post is lurking around here but there are plenty of others too.
I believe the Average reading Age of people who read the s*n is somewhere close to 5. Can\'t really say it shows (removes tongue from cheek)<P>Sadly the fact that the s*n is the most popular rag in the UK, doesnt really say alot about the country!<P>For me the s*n is a paper for illinformed, gullable muppets with less intellegence, than a below average gnat.
Mightymichealvaughn, could you please read this link?<P>http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/media.shtm<P>Also, to quote from an email from a Hillsborough survivor who\'s now in the HJC:<P>\"Tell ... that this scouser red, who was in Pen 3 and carried out unconcious, was accused by (as yet unidentified) police officers of urinating on those who were carried out dead. That is why I tell people \'Don\'t Buy THE S*n\'. There was plenty of ***** written at the time but this city spontaneously reacted, in the most approriate manner, to the pack of lies that was deliberately designed to cover the tracks and responsibility of those who perpetrated the killings. The basis of every defence of SYP SWFC and the other perpetrators is they done nothing wrong but we killed our own. <P>In essence the article stated the victims killed, ****** on and robbed the dead victims.The REAL truth is, as said on my phone last night by another survivor who has come forward, a lad who incidentally got 2 injuries on the day 1 a hand print pressure mark on his back and the otther a cut finger from the nail on the ad board he carried, survivors climbed out of the HELL and carried out the recovery and rescue while the SYP organised a sweep line across the pitch to shepherd (literally) victims back into the killing pens, and every other official was busy organising the match restart.<P>B******* B******* B*******...(bangs fist on keyboard and walks away to regain composure)<P>sharp bailey\'s coffee supped & ciggy puffed.<P>In a remarkable way the boycott instantly damaged the sales and reputation of one of the nation\'s most popular papers. Even more remarkably this stain on their business and kudos is continuing to have a detrimental effect on them, and it is doing their heads in to find a way past us. An appropriate response to an inapproriate article. In fact I think it is the single most effective reaction towards the perpetrators and their cronies from victims.<P>....<P>In Short. The S*n was the vehicle for a deliberate and sinister smokescreen story, created by those who perpetrated the killings or those who were very close to them, designed to distract the mass population from the real truth of who carried out the killings. Please reprint this paragraph anywhere anytime you like.\"<BR>
****in ***** . I live in Ireland and never knew about what was writen. I will never buy that paper again.
I posted this in Roper\'s thread but will repost it here:<P>An email from a mate of mine: <P>Quote <BR>Anyway I was in the shop going through old fanzines which have been donated. Found this poem: <BR>I forgive away fans singing You\'re on the Dole.<BR>I forgive Michael Thomas his last minute goal<BR>I forgive Man U fans for being total *********<BR>I forgive people slagging off out of town Reds<BR>I forgive stewards not letting me in on time<BR>I forgive Peter Beardsley for joining the Slime<BR>I forgive matches changing to suit the telly<BR>I even forgive that ******** Graham Kelly <BR>I forgive other teams envious sneers<BR>I forgive UEFA banning us for six years<BR>I\'ll forgive most people one misplaced deed <BR>But one thing today still makes my heart bleed <BR>I saw how two papers outrageously lied<BR>When through no fault of theirs, 96 died<BR>In a shop thumbing through them, close to tears<BR>As I saw before me their scandalous smears<BR>And as long as their printed and as long as I live<BR>The S*n and the S*** I\'ll never forgive<BR>Sarah Slaven<P>I found this in Issue 11 of Through The Wind & Rain it is titled; <BR>I FORGIVE ( apologies to Forest\'s BRIAN fanzine)<BR>I would like it posted as Sixpence for Sarah.<BR>A Social Justice campaign intended to spread Sarah\'s sentiment.<BR>Anyone who wants to take part can send us sixpence and we will send Sarah\'s sentiments on to someone else who hasn\'t seen them. Send a tanner or a 6p stamp to Hillsborough Justice Campaign. 134 Oakfield Road, Anfield. Liverpool. L4 0UG. <BR>Unquote<P>Sarah\'s poem can also be found on the TTWAR website.<P>Boycott the S*n<BR>and the Star
Up to top in case anybody forgets.<P>JFT96 Never Alone.<BR>
Great post, I have just read it, I have boycotted the S*n for as long as I have bought newspapers. They should pay for what they wrote. Burn the rag. YNWA.
<P>dirty filthy rag.....I\'ll never forgive or forget......justice for our fallen heros & the ones who were accused of such terrible crimes......YOU FILTHY SCUM. SHAME ON YOU.<P>
Any youngsters or others who have learned something from this, please spread the word.<P>YNWA
I dont read the s*n and after reading that I dont think I ever will I was only 2 years old when it happened so I hadnt read it before but I think the sun shouldnt be allowed to publish another newspaper ever again because all they write are lies and rubbish
Never bought the rag in my life even before Hillsborough. Having read the story from the link I know I never will.<P>A mate of mine, a LFC fan buys it \"for the sport\". I\'ve just e-mailed him the link. I hope he does not buy it again.
Make no mistake the boycott DOES work. In order to win nationwide advertising campaigns, national media need to have a high penetration in all major connurbations. A weakness in Merseyside, one of the UK largest population centres is a significant weakness for The Sun and one which media buyers can use to drive the price down. In the other words, The Sun loses money. <P>Another consideration (and possibly even a more relevant one) is a boycott of the radio station talkSport, as it\'s MD and large shareholder is none other than the major culprit Kelvin McKenzie. Pilger\'s report makes it quite clear who should carry the most responsibility for running the Hillsborough stories. <P>Boycotting talkSport will hit McKenzie where it hurts, in his pocket. Don\'t listen to it, even when we\'re playing; don\'t interact with it; don\'t get involved in any of its marketing. And spread the word.
This is my contibution to keeping this up the top !<P>BOYCOTT THE S*N<P>JFT96 !!!!!!!!!!!