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candyisdandy
20-9-11, 12:12
This thread will keep track of all the players we're linked with from now to the end of January. It'll be interesting to see if we actually sign anybody from this list.

So far we've been linked with -

1. Peru whizkid Andy Polo (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/liverpool-target-polo-still-considering-options), Bayer Leverkusen midfielder Lars Bender (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/liverpool-watching-leverkusen-midfielder) - Tribalfootball

2. Sunderland face competition from Liverpool and Nuremberg for FC Zurich striker Admir Mehmedi (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/liverpool-to-rival-sunderland-for-mehmedi) - Daily Mail

3. Liverpool plan shock raid for Everton midfielder Seamus Coleman (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/liverpool-plan-shock-raid-for-everton-midfielder) - general internet

4. Liverpool are trying to negotiate a cut-price January deal for Lyon's Aly Cissokho (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/liverpool-line-up-lyon-star) - Daily Mirror

5. Seydou Keita - talksport (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/1264/09/liverpool-make-approach-barcelona-midfielder)

6. David Villa (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/245915/20111109/liverpool-transfer-rumor-reds-chelsea-planning-34.htm) (again), Tevez (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/244475/20111107/liverpool-transfer-news-reds-make-valiant-bid.htm), Lucas (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/245112/20111108/liverpool-transfer-rumor-reds-targeting-kaka-january.htm) (the other one) - IB Times (the source doesn't look to reliable)

7. Zenit's Portuguese defender Bruno Alves (http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/liverpool-face-juventus-in-race-to-sign-20m-rated-portugal-defender-12362), Sochaux midfielder Ryad Boudebouz (http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/liverpool-hold-talks-with-sochaux-to-negotiate-deal-for-14-5m-midfielder-12491)- Sportsvibe (definitely not reliable)

8. Liverpool reportedly eyeing move for Tottenham midfielder Tom Huddlestone, a player aptly described by the guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/02/football-transfer-rumours-tom-huddlestone?newsfeed=true) as an oil tanker

9. Media reports have linked us with a swoop for Newcastle's Argentinian CB Fabricio Coloccini (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/28/football-transfer-rumours-fabricio-coloccini?newsfeed=true). Don't buy your wigs yet because Newcastle have since issued a hands off warning (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Liverpool-transfer-gossip-Hands-off-Fabricio-Coloccini-says-Newcastle-boss-Alan-Pardew-article822773.html).

10. Liverpool and Spurs in race to sign Werder Bremen star Marko Marin, according to the daily (f)ail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2052609/Marko-Marin-wanted-Tottenham-Liverpool.html#ixzz1be817ibh).

11. Now isn't this exciting? Reds, Arse showing interest in Wigan's Colombian striker Hugo Rodallega - givemefootball! (http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/arsenal-liverpool-showing-interest-in-colombian-st)

12. Skysports (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_7233711,00.html) understands Liverpool are among a host of Premier League clubs tracking American youngster Brek Shea

13. Liverpool line up Swiss starlet Nicholas Hunziker (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Liverpool-line-up-Nicholas-Hunziker-FC-Basle-teen-Swiss-starlet-but-Napoli-like-him-too-article810234.html)

14. Media reports (http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/878025-luuk-de-jong-watched-by-liverpool-and-newcastle-for-january-transfer) are linking FC Twente's Luuk de Jong with an 8-10 million pound January move

15. Reds chase Borussia Dortmund's Japanese star Shinji Kagawa, according to First Post (http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/85378,sport,football,transfer-talk-liverpool-chase-japanese-midfielder-shinji-kagawa-everton-eye-up-george-green) :FP:

16. Caughtoffside (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/09/28/liverpool-identify-26m-chelsea-and-man-city-duo-as-january-transfer-targets/) (why do they bother?) suggests Man City winger Adam Johnson and Chelsea's Salomon Kalou are January targets for Liverpool. Now, media reports (http://football-talk.co.uk/42866/transfer-news-arsenal-beating-liverpool-in-race-to-sign-chelsea-outcast/) indicate Arsenal are set to pip Liverpool in the 'race to sign Kalou'

17. Insidefutbol (http://www.insidefutbol.com/2011/09/...-swoop/50053/?)claims Liverpool are planning an audacious move for David Villa and Gonzalo Higuain. What next? Messi, Ronaldo and Iniesta? Link provided by CrawleyRed.

18. Leicester's German starlet Jeffrey Schlupp (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/rumour-reds-linked-with-german-starlet)

19. Bologna's Uruguayan winger Gaston Ramirez - click here (http://www.nesn.com/2011/09/liverpool-rumored-to-target-bologna-winger-gaston-ramirez-for-january-move.html)

20. Ajax's Belgian central defender (and occasional defensive midfielder) Jan Vertonghen - click here (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/liverpool-eyeing-january-swoop-for-ajax-ace)

21. Liverpool and Arsenal are battling to sign highly rated Valencia forward Paco Alcacer (who?), says the ever reliable caughtoffside.com (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/09/17/arsenal-battle-liverpool-for-signing-of-valencia-star-video/) citing Marca.

22. Tribal football (http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ac-milan-force-man-city-liverpool-bring-forward-eriksen-plans-1894532), undoubtedly the most accurate source in the world, suggests Liverpool could move for Ajax starlet Christian Eriksen, if we "fail to prise Eden Hazard away from Lille." Renewed interest from Milan is forcing Man City, Liverpool to bring forward plans to buy the exciting Danish prospect.

23. Liverpool and Arsenal track Crystal Palace youngster Wilfried Zaha - Fanatix (http://www.fanatix.com/news/liverpool-and-arsenal-track-strike-sensation-872/)(scrapping with Tribal Football and caught offside for the hallowed title of most inaccurate football news service)

24. Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea eyeing swoop for Fiorentina forward Stevan Jovetic - Caught offside (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/09/13/liverpool-arsenal-and-chelsea-in-transfer-battle-for-serie-a-forward/)

25. Real Madrid defender Raul Albiol linked (http://www.crunchsports.com/category/Soccer/Liverpool-FC-join-Arsenal-FC-Chelsea-FC-in-race-to-sign-Raul-Albiol-201109190020/). The Spanish defender has since played down talks of a move (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/albiol-plays-down-pl-move).

26. Liverpool join the race for Tottenham target Leandro Damiao (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/09/27/2684620/liverpool-join-the-race-for-tottenham-target-leandro-damiao) - Goal.com (enough said)

27. Here's a feature (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/865935-liverpool-transfer-rumours-7-players-linked-to-the-reds)by bleacherreport.com on 7 players that have been linked to us. This list includes Sao Paulo's Lucas Moura (linked by insidefutbol.com), Parma's Danilo Pereira (no clear citation) and Napoli's Marek Hamsik (Guardian's gossip page)

Possible exits? Some real ************ here

1. Lucas Leiva (http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/liverpool-midfielder-emerges-as-15m-bayern-munich-target-12408) has reportedly become a transfer target for Bayern Munich, Real Madrid eye 'shock' move for Glen Johnson (http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/liverpool-full-back-set-for-shock-approach-from-real-madrid-12424/) - Sportsvibe

2. Inter Milan linked with move for Agger (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/245160/20111108/liverpool-transfer-rumor-reds-lose-shotstopper-daniel.htm) - IB Times

3. Samuel Etoo's Russian retirement home Anzhi Makhachkala linked with a shock move for Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard - Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/20/football-transfer-rumours-gerrard-lampard)

4. Forgotten man Danny Wilson a loan target for Leeds - click (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Liverpool-defender-Danny-Wilson-a-Leeds-target-article797326.html)

5. According to Caught Offside's dubious Spanish sources (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/09/13/barcelona-keen-on-chelsea-and-liverpools-south-american-stars/)Guardiola is a big admirer of Luis Suarez, who has also been linked with a move to Real Madrid in recent weeks.

6. Daily Mail suggests Liverpool are prepared to let Jonjo Shelvey go out on loan (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/rumour-reds-to-loan-out-starlet). Skysports (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11669_7211036,00.html)understands a loan has been agreed with Blackpool. OFFICIAL: Shelvey seals loan switch (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/shelvey-seals-loan-switch)

shody1976
20-9-11, 13:58
Would like a right winger please.

50P-WSTB-Head
20-9-11, 14:03
RB, RW and another top FW.

Johnny-Park
20-9-11, 14:05
RB, RW and another top FW.

A CM for me.

0oRallo0
20-9-11, 14:08
Thank god the speculation has started, i was about to take a forum sabbatical

Kroos Control
20-9-11, 14:10
From what I've seen so far.

A ball playing centre back to fill aggers injury prone shoes.

A RM, because we don't have 1.

A creative CM. We lost Meireles and Aquilani, and they weren't replaced.

candyisdandy
20-9-11, 15:45
updated with a fresh link

navmister
20-9-11, 16:40
I would get rid of injury prone players

Johnson
Agger

Loan Out
Carrol - Do not see how he would work with Kenny's system. He is just too slow.

Buy

2RB, 1FW (Zarate), 1CB (Cahill)

Kroos Control
20-9-11, 16:59
I would get rid of injury prone players

Johnson
Agger

Loan Out
Carrol - Do not see how he would work with Kenny's system. He is just too slow.

Buy

2RB, 1FW (Zarate), 1CB (Cahill)

Loan out a £35m forward after 8 months? That has got to be some sort of joke?

candyisdandy
20-9-11, 17:05
Anzhi linked with Gerrard :FP:

KirkbyToCanada
20-9-11, 17:07
This thread will keep track of all the players we're linked with from now to the end of January. It'll be interesting to see if we actually sign anybody from this list.

So far we've been linked with -

1. Bologna's Uruguayan winger Gaston Ramirez

http://www.nesn.com/2011/09/liverpool-rumored-to-target-bologna-winger-gaston-ramirez-for-january-move.html

2. Ajax's Belgian central defender (and occasional defensive midfielder) Jan Vertonghen

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/liverpool-eyeing-january-swoop-for-ajax-ace

3. Liverpool and Arsenal are battling to sign highly-rated Valencia forward Paco Alcacer, says the ever reliable caughtoffside.com citing Marca.(Never heard of him)

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/09/17/arsenal-battle-liverpool-for-signing-of-valencia-star-video/

4. Samuel Etoo's Russian retirement home Anzhi Makhachkala linked with shock move for Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/20/football-transfer-rumours-gerrard-lampard

Pretty sure that Marca is a Spanish paper :D

RogerHuntelaar
20-9-11, 17:08
Pretty sure that Marca is a Spanish paper :D

Yeah :D

Yehez
20-9-11, 17:09
Pretty sure that Marca is a Spanish paper :D

He means the player.

candyisdandy
20-9-11, 17:20
Yeah I meant the player :D Also added a new link from Tribal football.

MeIsTeRThEBeSt
20-9-11, 17:26
bring in Ibrahim Afellay for RW, loan out shelvey, jones, bring also in an new CM, adam is the slowest midfielder in the PL and than an good fw

SuarezIsClassy08
20-9-11, 17:32
I'd be happy if we only bought Hazard in January. If Arsenal is our only competition to signing him, and they continue in the form that they're in, I believe we could be front runners (assuming we step up our game!!). I think Lille not qualifying for the knockout stages for the Champions League could also be a major factor.

Afellay would be brilliant as well! I really liked him and was upset when he went to Barca (although they're my no.2 team)

SweetSilverSeven
20-9-11, 17:36
I would want 2 wide players, A forward/striker, and a CM, by the end of summer 2012 :)

People have got to make sure that they don't see the january transfer wondow as "fix it" type window. Most of the best players are simply not available at that time. I would like us to buy 1/2 players in jabuary, as it would help strengthen us a lil as we enter the second half of the season, and the fact that it's always exciting when new players come in :scarf

TeenageMutantNinJaSkrtel
20-9-11, 17:37
Loan out a £35m forward after 8 months? That has got to be some sort of joke?

It made me spray my screen with nose coffee. :D

SweetSilverSeven
20-9-11, 17:38
I'd be happy if we only bought Hazard in January. If Arsenal is our only competition to signing him, and they continue in the form that they're in, I believe we could be front runners (assuming we step up our game!!). I think Lille not qualifying for the knockout stages for the Champions League could also be a major factor.

Afellay would be brilliant as well! I really liked him and was upset when he went to Barca (although they're my no.2 team)

Please tell me that they are your DISTANT second team :IN:

SweetSilverSeven
20-9-11, 17:39
Loan out a £35m forward after 8 months? That has got to be some sort of joke?

:D

-Lucas--Leiva-
20-9-11, 17:41
3. Liverpool and Arsenal are battling to sign highly rated Valencia forward Paco Alcacer (who?), says the ever reliable caughtoffside.com citing Marca.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/09/17/arsenal-battle-liverpool-for-signing-of-valencia-star-video/


God on FM :p

TeenageMutantNinJaSkrtel
20-9-11, 17:42
If Glen or Martin Kelly get injured again between now and January, we have to go for a right back that can at least play 10 games on the trot.

Same with Agger, if he comes back and doesn't stay free of injury, then we need a left footed centre back. That French lad would be ideal (name escapes me, but i've narrowed it down a bit to a young French left footed centre half, surname begins with 'Ess' :D)

What is the point is having a good right back, a good left back and a good central defender if they are always sat in the hospital. Even if Aurelio, Johnson and Agger are rated on here as some the best on the world in their respected position, what is the point if they cannot play 5 games in row.

CharlieManson
20-9-11, 17:46
This is a joke, 5 games in and two losses and already the fickle are eyeing up who we are buying posting absoloute crap...

candyisdandy
20-9-11, 17:48
Why did I get negged for this post? I demand an explanation. :D

candyisdandy
20-9-11, 17:51
I don't see what's fickle about compiling a list of players we get linked with from now to January end. In fact, it'll just show how ridiculous some of these rumours are.

This is a joke, 5 games in and two losses and already the fickle are eyeing up who we are buying posting absoloute crap...

candyisdandy
20-9-11, 17:54
Sebastian Squillaci? Mikael Silvestre? :D

Mamadou Sakho looks good though from what I've seen of him.


If Glen or Martin Kelly get injured again between now and January, we have to go for a right back that can at least play 10 games on the trot.

Same with Agger, if he comes back and doesn't stay free of injury, then we need a left footed centre back. That French lad would be ideal (name escapes me, but i've narrowed it down a bit to a young French left footed centre half, surname begins with 'Ess' :D)

What is the point is having a good right back, a good left back and a good central defender if they are always sat in the hospital. Even if Aurelio, Johnson and Agger are rated on here as some the best on the world in their respected position, what is the point if they cannot play 5 games in row.

candyisdandy
20-9-11, 19:27
I've dug up some more links for you...

01850185
20-9-11, 19:30
RW and another CF

Carlton Facepalmer
20-9-11, 19:34
Luis' agent is Pep Guardiola's brother. :crying

TheRiedle
20-9-11, 19:58
A CM for me.

:FP:

candyisdandy
20-9-11, 21:01
updated my original post with a link to Albiol. I really think we're unlikely to sign anyone in January, unless we sell someone.

Kloppette
20-9-11, 21:11
It made me spray my screen with nose coffee. :D

Is that what they call it these days !!

#CavaniToLiverpool
21-9-11, 00:24
If we get into the champions league (which I think we will) we should go for these targets... I think Cavani should be the number one target along with Hazard, especially with Suarez and Coates here could be a major factor for him. Also I heard that De Rossi's contract expires in the summer, could be a fantastic signing for very cheap, cheaper than the prices quoted for some players anyway that's for certain.

By the way I'm a huge fan of Lucas but I think De Rossi with his attacking prowess is just what we need, quite similar to Essien. Not sure where else we should strengthen possibly centreback again with Agger's injury problems, Skrtel's clumsyness and Carraghers age, possibly Thiago Silva? Well yeah looking forward to hearing your thoughts. x


Reina

Kelly Silva Agger/Coates Enrique

De Rossi

Hazard-----Gerrard-----Downing

Suarez-----Cavani

-----Sorry Mickey didn't realise there was another thread.

RyanBabylon
21-9-11, 00:36
If we get into the champions league (which I think we will) we should go for these targets... I think Cavani should be the number one target along with Hazard, especially with Suarez and Coates here could be a major factor for him. Also I heard that De Rossi's contract expires in the summer, could be a fantastic signing for very cheap, cheaper than the prices quoted for some players anyway that's for certain.

By the way I'm a huge fan of Lucas but I think De Rossi with his attacking prowess is just what we need, quite similar to Essien. Not sure where else we should strengthen possibly centreback again with Agger's injury problems, Skrtel's clumsyness and Carraghers age, possibly Thiago Silva? Well yeah looking forward to hearing your thoughts. x


Reina

Kelly Silva Agger/Coates Enrique

De Rossi

Hazard-----Gerrard-----Downing

Suarez-----Cavani

-----Sorry Mickey didn't realise there was another thread.
That would cost upwards of 120 million pounds.

Cavani's at least 35 million
Hazard's at least 30 million
Silva's another 30 million
And De Rossi's a good 40 million.


Don't be silly lad.

#CavaniToLiverpool
21-9-11, 00:38
That would cost upwards of 120 million pounds.

Cavani's at least 35 million
Hazard's at least 30 million
Silva's another 30 million
And De Rossi's a good 40 million.


Don't be silly lad.

De Rossi will be available for a pre-contract in January mate. Our debt we dont pay anymore would be £30m there, £15m from CL, and £50m from the owners again? (£25m January and £25m Summer) So you see? It is very possible now with all the new money we are generating.

RyanBabylon
21-9-11, 00:45
De Rossi will be available for a pre-contract in January mate. Our debt we dont pay anymore would be £30m there, £15m from CL, and £50m from the owners again? (£25m January and £25m Summer) So you see? It is very possible now with all the new money we are generating.

****, I thought you meant this January. That would be ridiculous.

This summer is a possibility. I still doubt we'd get all of those players, but it would be great.

#CavaniToLiverpool
21-9-11, 00:47
****, I thought you meant this January. That would be ridiculous.

This summer is a possibility. I still doubt we'd get all of those players, but it would be great.

Oh, no I ******* wish. I actually just made a thread about the summer and january transfer windows... which was locked, well... cos of this one, forget to mention that as it said it in the thread title. :D

EDIT: Cavani and Hazard in January, De Rossi (free) and Thiago Silva in the summer!

HitTheWoodwork
21-9-11, 00:49
That would cost upwards of 120 million pounds.

Cavani's at least 35 million
Hazard's at least 30 million
Silva's another 30 million
And De Rossi's a good 40 million.


Don't be silly lad.

You are being silly I'm afraid, De Rossi is in the last year of his contract. About 8m to get him in Jan as he's refused to sign another contract.

RyanBabylon
21-9-11, 00:50
Oh, no I ******* wish. I actually just made a thread about the summer and january transfer windows... which was locked, well... cos of this one, forget to mention that as it said it in the thread title. :D

EDIT: Cavani and Hazard in January, De Rossi (free) and Thiago Silva in the summer!

Would be nice mate.

#CavaniToLiverpool
21-9-11, 00:52
You are being silly I'm afraid, De Rossi is in the last year of his contract. About 8m to get him in Jan as he's refused to sign another contract.

Could offer a swap deal for Aqua? Take him back.
:p

Ellibertador
21-9-11, 02:46
I would get rid of injury prone players

Johnson
Agger

Loan Out
Carrol - Do not see how he would work with Kenny's system. He is just too slow.

Buy

2RB, 1FW (Zarate), 1CB (Cahill)

Loan out Carroll?

Are you loco? :oyh:

#CavaniToLiverpool
21-9-11, 02:54
Loan out Carroll?

Are you loco? :oyh:

No, he said Carrol? What are you? ...... :confused::D

Pete_lad2014
27-9-11, 08:28
Sorry about this Mods, had to make a thread like this because I didn't want to start a thread on a player just based on speculation. Hopefully this will be made a sticky as I'm sure there will be more rumour and Speculation by the time January comes around.

Any how according to speculation this morning LFC are interested i'n Signing Leandro Damiao from Brazil already this season he has 39 goals and apparently we have watched him 6 times including Steve Clarke. Source Goal. Com (rubbish source though)

foreverred-1973
27-9-11, 08:44
...but Reina and Suarez handing in transfer requests :FP: :P

Pete_lad2014
27-9-11, 08:52
Has anyone seen Leandro Damiao play before?

Red-And-Proud
27-9-11, 09:24
...but Reina and Suarez handing in transfer requests :FP: :P

Fine...they are loosing it anyway.

Red-And-Proud
27-9-11, 09:30
Sorry about this Mods, had to make a thread like this because I didn't want to start a thread on a player just based on speculation. Hopefully this will be made a sticky as I'm sure there will be more rumour and Speculation by the time January comes around.

Any how according to speculation this morning LFC are interested i'n Signing Leandro Damiao from Brazil already this season he has 39 goals and apparently we have watched him 6 times including Steve Clarke. Source Goal. Com (rubbish source though)

Why not, they are already selling christmas crackers and selection boxes in Sainsburys.

JFG
27-9-11, 09:33
Why not, they are already selling christmas crackers and selection boxes in Sainsburys.

You might as well, they've started on twitter already. Saying we are watching Götze, I wish.

Carlton Facepalmer
27-9-11, 09:38
...but Reina and Suarez handing in transfer requests :FP: :P

This wouldn't concern me, I mean when was the last time Pepe saved a penalty or Suarez complete 90 minutes...

LordJamieOfCarragher
27-9-11, 09:43
:FP:

candyisdandy
27-9-11, 09:46
updated with Shelvey loan rumour

candyisdandy
27-9-11, 09:47
already a thread on this

ManCrushOnCoutinho
27-9-11, 10:19
I want Jarvis, Cahill and Hazard.

Pure greed but I'd be over the moon with anyone of those players.

foreverred-1973
27-9-11, 10:19
This wouldn't concern me, I mean when was the last time Pepe saved a penalty or Suarez complete 90 minutes...

:)

RiiseAgainst
27-9-11, 10:25
I would get rid of injury prone players

Johnson
Agger

Loan Out
Carrol - Do not see how he would work with Kenny's system. He is just too slow.
Buy

2RB, 1FW (Zarate), 1CB (Cahill)

One of the dumbest suggestions of all time.

Pete_lad2014
27-9-11, 10:25
Why not, they are already selling christmas crackers and selection boxes in Sainsburys.

Really?

Also even though it's a twitter rumours abs There is probably no substance to it Gptze looked a cracking little player when I seen him vs Arsenal. Reminds me of Nasri

Morsy
27-9-11, 10:28
I want Jarvis, Cahill and Hazard.

Pure greed but I'd be over the moon with anyone of those players.

I think if we get champions league then that is a very realistic set of targets personally.

navmister
27-9-11, 11:13
One of the dumbest suggestions of all time.

Well I hope I am proved wrong. Andy has a huge monkey on his back. It is his price tag. If we had bought him for 10 mil, it would not be an issue because we would not have been so critical. Against wolves, he performed much better and he did great in providing defensive support. If you look at the formation that is picked heavily by most fans before games, it is Kuyt upfront with Suarez. The interchange play that they provide is great. My only suggestion for loaning out Carrol is for him to get more playing time so that he improves and gets his sharpness back . I do not think he is going to get much playing time when Gerrard comes back.

candyisdandy
27-9-11, 11:57
It's only the end of September and we've already been linked to at least 11 players. Ridiculous. Won't be surprised if we don't sign anyone in January.

Themessangernr1
27-9-11, 13:12
Cahill
Yan M,Vila


and possibly a striker.

CharlieManson
27-9-11, 13:14
who said loan out carroll ffs... idiots.

candyisdandy
28-9-11, 11:35
New link added. Some Leicester "starlet." From now on, the newest link will be placed above the older ones. There was a link to Mario Gomez (http://www.crunchsports.com/category/Soccer/Gomez-to-Liverpool-FC-Neymar-to-Man-City-Raffael-to-Arsenal-FC-Mondays-transfer-round-up-201109260031/) in Crunchsports :FP:..they claimed to have picked up the story from German newspaper Bild. So I checked it out. Turns out the original story dated back to February. So I didn't put the link to Gomez in the list.

candyisdandy
29-9-11, 17:56
We've been linked to Kalou and Johnson today. Added those links here!

CrawleyRed
29-9-11, 23:20
Hahahahaheeheeheeheehohohohoho :D:FP:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2011/09/29/liverpool-linked-with-audacious-la-liga-striking-double-swoop/50053/?


Sources in Spain have revealed that Liverpool are pondering moves for two of La Liga’s top goal-getters.

The Reds are, according to Spanish radio station Cadena Ser, running the rule over Barcelona’s David Villa and Real Madrid’s Gonzalo Higuain.

Liverpool added Craig Bellamy to their options in the summer window and the Welshman joined an attacking trio of Luis Suarez, Andy Carroll and Dirk Kuyt.

Despite Bellamy impressing though when given the nod in Liverpool’s recent 2-1 League Cup victory against Championship outfit Brighton, the Reds are thought to be concerned that their forward line is not potent enough to secure a return to Champions League football.

Number 9 Andy Carroll has struggled to find the goalscoring form expected of a player who commanded a fee of £35M to tempt from Newcastle United, while Dirk Kuyt has never hit the heights in front of goal experienced at Feyenoord betweeen 2003 and 2006.

Over in Spain, Villa looks like being nudged out of Barcelona’s first eleven when Alexis Sanchez is fit and settled and the striker is known to have interested Liverpool in the past before setting sail for the Camp Nou in 2010.

Higuain meanwhile has watched as Karim Benzema has begun to excel under Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid and question marks remain over the Argentine’s future.

Were Liverpool to complete the capture of either Villa or Higuain, it would act as a huge statement of intent, especially off the back of over £100M spent on new recruits since the beginning of this year.

candyisdandy
30-9-11, 15:39
:D Added this link. Thanks.



Hahahahaheeheeheeheehohohohoho :D:FP:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2011/09/29/liverpool-linked-with-audacious-la-liga-striking-double-swoop/50053/?

BostonFans
30-9-11, 15:45
Hahahahaheeheeheeheehohohohoho :D:FP:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2011/09/29/liverpool-linked-with-audacious-la-liga-striking-double-swoop/50053/?

My god, we would be unstoppable.

candyisdandy
30-9-11, 15:51
I want Messi! :D

My god, we would be unstoppable.

candyisdandy
4-10-11, 14:24
We've been linked to Shinji Kagawa. The rumours keep flying in!

shody1976
4-10-11, 16:07
Richardraasclaartthefourth

LFC look to boost their striking options with the £10.6 million signing of Andre-Pierre Gignac, will have to head of interest from Fulham who are still keen

slimman
4-10-11, 16:09
already :eek:

candyisdandy
11-10-11, 11:52
Added more links. More specifically to Nicholas Hunzinker, Brek Shea and some Kalou related 'developments.' Been on holiday for a while. So I might have missed some rumours. Do fill me in.

At least 20 players linked so far since the end of the summer window. :FP:

wavdeep
11-10-11, 14:20
I think the only position we really need to think about strengthening is right midfield - at the moment it seems to be one of Dirk or Hendo with Bellamy in reserve and none of them are ideally suited.

However there's no point just getting another body in - to make it worth it, would have to be somebody who would add a real dimension to our attack, and whether a player of that quality would be available in January, or whether we could attract them here until we've qualified for the CL is doubtful.

If Johnno, Kelly and Agger can't find a cure for their Aurelitis then we may need yet another defender too I suppose.

I don't expect a lot of business in Jan, but then I said that last year...

candyisdandy
24-10-11, 17:02
Well, I found some potentially good news and some er.. not so exciting, bordering on worrying, news on my regular round of scrounging for Liverpool-related gossip. We've been linked to Marin and Rodallega (again). The sources of the rumours, however, are utterly unreliable (as usual.)

candyisdandy
2-11-11, 11:09
We're linked with Huddlestone. Lord, have some mercy!

ManCrushOnCoutinho
2-11-11, 11:12
Its funny how excited we all are to see the we buy next now Kenny is in charge.

DiscoDjimi
2-11-11, 11:20
"Caughtoffside (why do they bother?) suggests Man City winger Adam Johnson and Chelsea's Salomon Kalou are January targets for Liverpool. Now, media reports indicate Arsenal are set to pip Liverpool in the 'race to sign Kalou'"


Finally we have entered the race to sign Kalou :scarf :FP:

-Chris-
2-11-11, 11:22
"Caughtoffside (why do they bother?) suggests Man City winger Adam Johnson and Chelsea's Salomon Kalou are January targets for Liverpool. Now, media reports indicate Arsenal are set to pip Liverpool in the 'race to sign Kalou'"


Finally we have entered the race to sign Kalou :scarf :FP:

Please god let Arsenal pip us!

candyisdandy
2-11-11, 11:22
Well, Huddlestone, Rodagella, Coloccini are not what I'd call exciting targets. Mind you, the press is entirely responsible for all this hogwash.
And I don't actually think the curiosity about who we are about to sign next has anything to do with Kenny. We are (or at least I am) always excited to see who we buy next.


Its funny how excited we all are to see the we buy next now Kenny is in charge.

candyisdandy
2-11-11, 11:25
We can only pray!

Please god let Arsenal pip us!

candyisdandy
8-11-11, 13:07
Media -
Alves, Tevez, Lucas Moura in

Agger out


:FP:

wavdeep
8-11-11, 15:19
Wonder if we can expect bids for any of our players this Jan.

'City in £50m Suarez swoop' gives me nightmares.

CharlieManson
8-11-11, 15:24
Wonder if we can expect bids for any of our players this Jan.

'City in £50m Suarez swoop' gives me nightmares.

Thats to be expected. I just hope we dont sign any *****.

TeenageMutantNinJaSkrtel
8-11-11, 15:33
Wonder if we can expect bids for any of our players this Jan.

'City in £50m Suarez swoop' gives me nightmares.

It's City, it would be 100 million. :eek:

RedKite
8-11-11, 17:49
Take the other Lucas off the list. We got him.

KingLuisNo7
8-11-11, 18:54
Gonzalo Higuain and Adam Johnson and I think we'd be on to a top 4+ finish!!

#CavaniToLiverpool
8-11-11, 19:20
Villa and Higuain. :D


Reina

Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique

Gerrard Lucas Henderson

Suarez---Higuain---Villa

:eek:

candyisdandy
8-11-11, 19:39
To whoever negged me for this thread -
C'mon, I've diligently kept this thread updated for the past two months, it takes effort you know. Just to clarify, I'm not saying we should (or should not) sign these players. I'm just bringing to your attention the players we are linked with leading up to January, so that we can all have a hearty laugh over how wrong the press actually are, when the window opens.

#CavaniToLiverpool
8-11-11, 22:01
To whoever negged me for this thread -
C'mon, I've diligently kept this thread updated for the past two months, it takes effort you know. Just to clarify, I'm not saying we should (or should not) sign these players. I'm just bringing to your attention the players we are linked with leading up to January, so that we can all have a hearty laugh over how wrong the press actually are, when the window opens.

Don't take notice mate, repping and negging is for children... and people who are too pussy enough to criticize someone to their face.

-Lucas--Leiva-
8-11-11, 22:11
Villa and Higuain. :D


Reina

Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique

Gerrard Lucas Henderson

Suarez---Higuain---Villa

:eek:

Added them to your Fifa team yet? Hows Aguero getting on?



To whoever negged me for this thread -
C'mon, I've diligently kept this thread updated for the past two months, it takes effort you know. Just to clarify, I'm not saying we should (or should not) sign these players. I'm just bringing to your attention the players we are linked with leading up to January, so that we can all have a hearty laugh over how wrong the press actually are, when the window opens.

Rep balanced out :) Good effort with the thread mate.

Viss
8-11-11, 22:34
Rep balanced out :) Good effort with the thread mate.


Seconded. Some sense of sanity is always welcome when it comes to the transfer windows, both for getting the hopes up and for the side splitting laughter at some of the so called 'scoops' the papers spew out.

Repped for doing it bredren :clap:

Vayanovic
9-11-11, 06:37
OH MY GOD, guys guys, if we are linked to Lucas from Sao Paola that is phenomenal , this guy has got bags of potential, he's the next big star for Brazil. We HAVE to sign this guy if we can, before the other big clubs come sniffing around, this guy is quality

Vayanovic
9-11-11, 06:39
we definitely need a striker, it's a no brainer that we simply do not have a clinical finisher in the squad.

BRISY
9-11-11, 06:45
Ok

On the lfc players' official fan pages (facebook and Twitter)

Ourselves and Chelsea have made inquired aprroaches to Barcelona for David Villa:FP: Its going to be a long drawn out winter boys

LucasTheRed
9-11-11, 06:47
Ok

On the lfc players' official fan pages (facebook and Twitter)

Ourselves and Chelsea have made inquired aprroaches to Barcelona for David Villa:FP: Its going to be a long drawn out winter boys

will love every single bit of the shortened silly season. just would have to tune out city.

candyisdandy
9-11-11, 12:02
yeah. tnks. just uploaded a link to the story.


Ok

On the lfc players' official fan pages (facebook and Twitter)

Ourselves and Chelsea have made inquired aprroaches to Barcelona for David Villa:FP: Its going to be a long drawn out winter boys

candyisdandy
9-11-11, 22:39
Lucas linked with Bayern. I'll eat my hat (I actually wear one occasionally, a fancy red fedora) if that happens in January.

bestituta
9-11-11, 22:45
Lucas linked with Bayern. I'll eat my hat (I actually wear one occasionally, a fancy red fedora) if that happens in January.

which one?

candyisdandy
9-11-11, 23:06
Which Lucas or which hat? :D
Lucas Leiva


which one?

BeautifulHistory
9-11-11, 23:09
Gaston Ramirez

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=281042&highlight=Gaston+Ramirez

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=277089&highlight=Gaston+Ramirez

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=276434&highlight=Gaston+Ramirez

candyisdandy
9-11-11, 23:21
Gaston is at present no. 15 on my list. He was one of the first when I started compiling the list.


Gaston Ramirez

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=281042&highlight=Gaston+Ramirez

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=277089&highlight=Gaston+Ramirez

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=276434&highlight=Gaston+Ramirez

BeautifulHistory
10-11-11, 00:16
Gaston is at present no. 15 on my list. He was one of the first when I started compiling the list.

why bring him up, 2 people talk about 1 or 2 mouth before i did then talk about less 3 weeks, to try see if still in for the boy

GeorgeLFC
10-11-11, 00:30
I have a feeling we'll sign Huddlestone.

candyisdandy
11-11-11, 11:51
why bring him up, 2 people talk about 1 or 2 mouth before i did then talk about less 3 weeks, to try see if still in for the boy

:confused:

Added link to Ryad Boudebouz. This is being discussed in detail over here - http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=282776

Plus, Glen Johnson linked with Real move :FP:

candyisdandy
18-11-11, 09:38
So transfer gossip is back on the website! Will make keeping this thread updated a lot easier.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/transfer-gossip-is-back

Just in case you missed it, Liverpool have wrapped up a deal for highly rated 14-yr old Seyi Ojo (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/984744/liverpool-snap-up-14-year-old-mk-dons-midfielder-seyi-ojo?cc=4716)

Sheen1979
18-11-11, 09:50
FM 104 a radio station in Dublin is saying we are willing to pay the Bitters €10m for Coleman!!

hsf
18-11-11, 10:11
What I think we'll go for...

A prolific goal scoring striker.
An attacking midfielder or a dependable right winger.

Players I'd like...

The goal scorer.
David Villa
Gonzalo Higuain
Lucas Barrios
Mario Gomez

The one in bold would be my first choice, due to his age and his price tag. He'll be half the price of the others in that list. Being South American, he shouldn't have any problems fitting in either :scarf

Attacking Midfielder.
Mario Gotze
Shinji Kagawa
Marko Marin
Lukas Podolski

I couldn't really decide on which I'd prefer. One is a young prospect, where as the other is more experienced and would 100% suit the Premier League. Prices would be cheaper than the other two, as they've both been touted as 20million+

Right Winger.
I don't really want one, I don't like wing play and I really don't understand the need for one.

But, with all that said, I'm not the manager so what I say doesn't really mean anything. :p Whoever we get in the January window I will 100% support, unless it's Diouf or some other cretinous player.

candyisdandy
12-12-11, 18:13
Apologies. I haven't updated this page for a while. In that time, we've been linked with a host of players. And Kenny has commented on a potential swoop for prolific frontman Joe Bloggs. :D

Two months ago I think I'd preferred to have seen us sign a winger in Jan. But now I think we really need a third striker. To compete with Andy and Suarez.

BTw, we've got so many new faces in the team this season and we all know it takes time for signings to settle and learn about each others game. So, do you think adding more faces in January could possibly disrupt the cohesion and slick passing the team is steadily building? Just a thought.

BabelCopter
12-12-11, 18:19
Apologies. I haven't updated this page for a while. In that time, we've been linked with a host of players. And Kenny has commented on a potential swoop for prolific frontman Joe Bloggs. :D

Two months ago I think I'd preferred to have seen us sign a winger in Jan. But now I think we really need a third striker. To compete with Andy and Suarez.

BTw, we've got so many new faces in the team this season and we all know it takes time for signings to settle and learn about each others game. So, do you think adding more faces in January could possibly disrupt the cohesion and slick passing the team is steadily building? Just a thought.

Good question :)

I think I want to see the team gel, as I believe that cohesion and patience can be more important than the Chelsea-esque approach of throwing money in everyones' eyes until you win.
Also, I don't think we have many urgent potential signings...

GK - excellent
LB, RB - excellent
CBs - excellent
DM/CM - excellent, if it weren't for injuries, which may require a cheap/loan signing?
CAM - depends on formation, but excellent ;)
LM - very good - I think Downing is the main player I'd like to see settle in more before judging
RM - very good - Kuyt is ****** fantastic, I love him. But he doesn't offer the pacey wide man we sometimes need.
ST - very good - Carroll, along with Downing, are the players who need longer. I think we have enough options to warrant not splashing out in Jan though (Carroll, Suarez, Bellamy and Kuyt can all play upfront)


:)

-tattybojangles-
12-12-11, 18:25
I think we need a more natural right sided player who is really creative and that would do me.

ManCrushOnCoutinho
12-12-11, 18:26
There's not smoke without fire and the fact we are being linked with the same three position obviously means we are looking i.e. DM, RW and a forward.

We seemed to be linked with Gaston Ramirez a lot.

calired6472
12-12-11, 20:55
RB, RW and another top FW.

A RB ??????????????? your kidding right???

You dont think Johnson, Kelly and Flanno is enough???

Darrren1
29-12-11, 15:25
Nice one, if it's true. I've always liked Bent - you just know he will score you goals. Exactly what we need right now.


Liverpool FC make enquiry for Aston Villa striker Darren Bent (http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1215036-liverpool-fc-make-enquiry-for-aston-villa-striker-darren-bent.html)


Liverpool have made an enquiry for Aston Villa striker Darren Bent.

The 27-year-old will be sacrificed by Villa boss Alex McLeish as he attempts to bolster the mid-table side's transfer kitty during the upcoming window.

Speculation over Bent's future has began to mount after injury sidelined him for Villa's 2-0 defeat to Liverpool earlier this month yet was photographed shopping in Cambridge on the same day.

His fire power and link-up play with England team mate Stewart Downing, who left Villa last summer, is understood to be the key motivation for Liverpool's Champions League charge.

Kenny Dalglish has been mulling over a move for the well-travelled hit man in light of the club's lack of clinical edge in front of goal, which has resulted in six home draws.

Luis Suarez's goal tally has stalled while Andy Carroll continues to shoulder the burden of the excessive £35million price tag which lured him to Anfield just 11 months prior.

Monday's stalemate with bottom club Blackburn Rovers has prompted Liverpool to signal their intent for Bent, who appears set to leave Villa Park almost a year since his arrival.

In spite of McLeish's doubt that 'anybody' could afford the club's record signing, the former Sunderland man will be allowed to leave for significantly less than his £24million valuation.

But Liverpool face competition from both Fulham and newly-promoted Queens Park Rangers.

Damien Comolli, the Reds' director of football, admitted last January that the club had considered a move for Bent prior to his move to Villa but claimed that his "lone wolf" approach to games would have proved incompatible with striker Fernando Torres, who later joined Chelsea.

WindyShepherdHenderson
29-12-11, 15:25
DARREN BEEZY

:ph34r:

Mapeke
29-12-11, 15:25
**** it. He scores goals and that's what we need. Sign him up.

JoeRedLabo
29-12-11, 15:27
Not the best all round footballer or technically good, but scores goals can finish and is fast.

Ad_Rock
29-12-11, 15:28
Would love this.

edit: click liverpool? **** off.

Seanosdelgardo
29-12-11, 15:28
Good player but I'm with Digger on this one.

If you play to his strengths and have him running off the last man with a ball over the top, then happy days, Bent is your man.

In the system we currently play, I'm not so sure he's clinical enough.

I like Bent, but is he right for our system?

0oRallo0
29-12-11, 15:28
For 10 million. Fair enough.

Emilvang
29-12-11, 15:28
For 10 million. Fair enough.

Please. It's Liverpool. 30+ millions.

Batteries
29-12-11, 15:29
Everybody is dreaming of Higuain.

This is reality. I would be quite content with Bent.

Hatake
29-12-11, 15:29
Wouldn't say no if it's a reasonable fee.

Skip Bayless
29-12-11, 15:29
Realistically, with hindsight, we should have bought him instead of Carroll. The thought of spending a combined fee of 60mil on Bent and Carroll is mind-boggling.

Mapeke
29-12-11, 15:30
Article is written by that ******** Richard Buxton, so it's most likely untrue. Lets hope it is though.

KingLuisNo7
29-12-11, 15:31
He scores! Which is exactly what we need!

Carlton Facepalmer
29-12-11, 15:32
So it will be Villa who get rich on the back of us this transfer window.

the-las
29-12-11, 15:33
Darren Bent who failed at spurs and is garbage for england??? yeah exacty what we need another mediocre player.

Emilvang
29-12-11, 15:34
Darren Bent who failed at spurs and is garbage for england??? yeah exacty what we need another mediocre player.

Ah! But for 30 millions, so it's fair enough.

Seanosdelgardo
29-12-11, 15:36
Darren Bent who failed at spurs and is garbage for england??? yeah exacty what we need another mediocre player.

All english players fail for england.....Moo point.

Mike-91
29-12-11, 15:37
For a reasonable price, **** yes.

He puts that round shape in the onion bag.

Carlton Facepalmer
29-12-11, 15:40
For a reasonable price, **** yes.

He puts that round shape in the onion bag.

I know a greengrocer who would cost a lot less.

Mike-91
29-12-11, 15:42
I know a greengrocer who would cost a lot less.

Who?

RedInferno74
29-12-11, 15:42
All english players fail for england.....Moo point.

Not to mention most strikers turn to **** for Spurs.

Darrren1
29-12-11, 15:43
His goal record speaks for itself though:



TEAM GAMES (SUB) GOALS
Aston Villa 30 (0) 14
Sunderland 58 (0) 32
Tottenham 32 (28) 18
Charlton 68 (0) 31
Ipswich 107 (19) 48
TOTAL 295 (47) 143


That's his league record - which given the teams he's played for, is more than decent.

TheBestIsLFC
29-12-11, 15:47
His goal record speaks for itself though:



TEAM GAMES (SUB) GOALS
Aston Villa 30 (0) 14
Sunderland 58 (0) 32
Tottenham 32 (28) 18
Charlton 68 (0) 31
Ipswich 107 (19) 48
TOTAL 295 (47) 143


That's his league record - which given the teams he's played for, is more than decent.

So why has he not made a bigger impact in the teams he played in , if he is so good surely villa would be playing him :huh:

Bewdleyfan
29-12-11, 15:49
So why has he not made a bigger impact in the teams he played in , if he is so good surely villa would be playing him :huh:

He's injured isn't he?

As you can see, 30 starts for Villa, no sub appearences and 14 goals. Nearly a goal every two games for a below average side who very rarely create goalscoring chances.

Bent clearly isn't the most technically gifted players in the league. However, as his goalscoring record shows, in front of goal there are few better within the Premier League.

Still, I can't see us spending £25 + million on the Villa striker to be honest.

arwales (R.I.P)
29-12-11, 15:53
I like Darren Bent, we don't need someone with all the skills and tricks in the book, just someone who can put the ball in the back of the net. Even at Spurs where he wasn't given a decent enough chance and supposedly 'struggled' he had a record some other strikers would be proud of (a goal every 3 games, for a team who were struggling themselves).

Carlton Facepalmer
29-12-11, 15:53
Who?

Nick & Frank Sergi. (http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1069522598723_2003/11/25/menaitop,0.jpg)

They are foreign so bound to be better than any british striker and putting things in the onion bag!

kop96lfc
29-12-11, 16:00
I'd take but for under 15 mil only.

SalahDressing
29-12-11, 16:01
Liverpool linked with Joe Allen (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/12/27/liverpool-keen-on-swansea-city-youngster-joe-allen/) - Caught Offside

Andriy Yarmolenko (never heard of him) (http://www.footybunker.com/liverpool-looking-at-international-starlet-for-offensive-reinforcements) - Footy Bunker

Linked with Riccardo Montollivo (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/12/25/liverpool-plan-6m-january-bid-for-italian-battler/) - Caught offside

Rubbish sources to be honest.

ForzaSuarez
29-12-11, 16:03
LIVERPOOL SIGN BENT :ohmy:

http://twitter.com/#!/Andrew_Heaton/status/152403569100865539/photo/1

TeenageMutantNinJaSkrtel
29-12-11, 16:07
Nice one, if it's true. I've always liked Bent - you just know he will score you goals. Exactly what we need right now.


Liverpool FC make enquiry for Aston Villa striker Darren Bent (http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1215036-liverpool-fc-make-enquiry-for-aston-villa-striker-darren-bent.html)


Liverpool have made an enquiry for Aston Villa striker Darren Bent.

The 27-year-old will be sacrificed by Villa boss Alex McLeish as he attempts to bolster the mid-table side's transfer kitty during the upcoming window.



Did Roy want to sign him?

RiverMersey96
29-12-11, 16:09
LIVERPOOL SIGN BENT :ohmy:

http://twitter.com/#!/Andrew_Heaton/status/152403569100865539/photo/1

never gets boring that one hahaha

:laugh:

StrawberryMilkshake
29-12-11, 16:11
Had a look on first couple of pages and couldn't see anything on this, so apologies if I missed it and delete if appropriate mods.

However, this just popped up on my Twitter feed:

Richard_Buxton
Liverpool make enquiry for Aston Villa's Darren Bent http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1215036-liverpool-fc-make-enquiry-for-aston-villa-striker-darren-bent.html

Thoughts?

wavdeep
29-12-11, 16:12
I don't really rate Bent despite his goal record. He's at an age where if he was good enough to play for a top club he'd have done it by now - and his time at Spurs was pretty disastrous.

Also don't see why Villa would sell him as he's only been there 5 minutes and they paid big money for him. OK a big offer would probably tempt them but I'd hate to think we'd consider paying £25m+ for a player that isn't significantly better than what we currently have (IMO).

kickthetyres
29-12-11, 16:12
Thoughts? Its in the sticky at the top of the page mate...:laugh:

fy7reds
29-12-11, 16:13
'Liverpool face competition from Fulham and newly promoted Queens Park Rangers'

:laugh:

SCHNAPP
29-12-11, 16:13
Exactly the type of player we need.

He is a great footballer, but he can finish and that is what our side needs.

Get Bent, get top four and he'll have paid for himself.

TheGhostOfDotTeeVeePast
29-12-11, 16:14
Fits in nicely with 'The British Experiment™'

BoDiddley
29-12-11, 16:14
Get him in

lfcstlouis
29-12-11, 16:15
I thought/was hoping this was a thread from the summer of last year..... I'll pass.

TeenageMutantNinJaSkrtel
29-12-11, 16:15
Linked with Riccardo Montollivo (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/12/25/liverpool-plan-6m-january-bid-for-italian-battler/) - Caught offside




I'd be well happy with that. Looks quality to me.

Somebody farted, he laughed. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Shame it was during a minutes silence. :FP:

TheGhostOfDotTeeVeePast
29-12-11, 16:15
Exactly the type of player we need.

He is a great footballer, but he can finish and that is what our side needs.

Get Bent, get top four and he'll have paid for himself.

I fully expect you to be demanding his sale by this time next year.

0oRallo0
29-12-11, 16:15
whats his fifa/fm stats like?

phuzz
29-12-11, 16:17
Can't believe people don't want him here when he's exactly what we need. He will get us goals. If we can't get anyone better this January, we should go for him.

SCHNAPP
29-12-11, 16:17
I fully expect you to be demanding his sale by this time next year.

Haha - unlikely, only happens when players have been woeful.

Seriously though, we do need a finisher. He can finish, he has scored goals everywhere he has been.

The worry is though, he would be a stop gap, you don't really spend £20+ million on a stop gap.

A swap deal with Carroll would be perfect.

BoDiddley
29-12-11, 16:19
Can't believe people don't want him here when he's exactly what we need. He will get us goals. If we can't get anyone better this January, we should go for him.

You're right. wE'VE already got 'one for the future' we need one for the present

TheGhostOfDotTeeVeePast
29-12-11, 16:19
A swap deal with Carroll would be perfect.

:D

T34
29-12-11, 16:19
I will defend Bent because he is good at putting the ball in the back of the net and that is what we need from our point man. The price of course needs to be ironed out for an aging player, but for a good price he would score us goals. I still think we need players around the the front two though, another wide player at least in my opinion.

RiiseAgainst
29-12-11, 16:20
Haha - unlikely, only happens when players have been woeful.

Seriously though, we do need a finisher. He can finish, he has scored goals everywhere he has been.

The worry is though, he would be a stop gap, you don't really spend £20+ million on a stop gap.

A swap deal with Carroll would be perfect.

:oyh:

rehmn002
29-12-11, 16:20
There aren't many ideas I aren't able to think positively about, hell I even wanted Paul Konchesky at one point...

But just no, no, no to Darren Bent. He's going to cost over £15m, struggles to score regular for Villa, misses a lot of golden chances for a so called "finisher" and is rarely involved in build up play.

I'd rather that kind of money be spent on a much better finisher.

0oRallo0
29-12-11, 16:21
How would buy bent and loan carroll sit with everyone?

Emilvang
29-12-11, 16:21
I'm really scared LFC will overpay again..I'm hoping for 15 max if it happens, which I doubt.

BoDiddley
29-12-11, 16:21
Haha - unlikely, only happens when players have been woeful.

Seriously though, we do need a finisher. He can finish, he has scored goals everywhere he has been.

The worry is though, he would be a stop gap, you don't really spend £20+ million on a stop gap.

A swap deal with Carroll would be perfect.

Our team is full of stop gaps and ones for the future. That's the problem.
Downing is supposed to be a stop gap and he doesn't deliver either metaphorically or on the pitch.

As you say, with Bent you pay for a finisher - he finishes

fy7reds
29-12-11, 16:22
I'm really scared LFC will overpay again..I'm hoping for 15 max if it happens, which I doubt.

Whoever LFC buy in January they will overpay.

0oRallo0
29-12-11, 16:23
Whoever LFC buy in January they will overpay.

Based on Carroll?

Alpha Papa
29-12-11, 16:23
All price dependant. We've seen enough of him to know his strengths/weaknesses. Personally I would be disappointed if we blew a big chunk of our available money on him. £12m is the cut-off for me.

WindyShepherdHenderson
29-12-11, 16:24
But just no, no, no to Darren Bent. He's going to cost over £15m, struggles to score regular for Villa, misses a lot of golden chances for a so called "finisher" and is rarely involved in build up play.

Last season when he had Young and Downing supplying him his record was better than 1 in 2. This season (under that pioneer of attacking football, McLeish, with Heskey "supplying him" he's still got more league goals than Carroll and the same amount as Suarez.

Skip Bayless
29-12-11, 16:24
A swap deal with Carroll would be perfect.

:happy:

fy7reds
29-12-11, 16:25
Based on Carroll?

Based on that virtually every club in the world is aware how desparate we are for someone who can put the ball into the back of the net.

redhoops
29-12-11, 16:25
Based on Carroll?

frode kippe:ohmy:

0oRallo0
29-12-11, 16:26
Based on virtually every club in the world is aware how desparate we are for someone who can put the ball into the back of the net.

Thats different then. I thought you meant that we would just overpay.

StrawberryMilkshake
29-12-11, 16:30
Thoughts? Its in the sticky at the top of the page mate...:laugh:

:closedeyes: my bad.

rehmn002
29-12-11, 16:32
Last season when he had Young and Downing supplying him his record was better than 1 in 2. This season (under that pioneer of attacking football, McLeish, with Heskey "supplying him" he's still got more league goals than Carroll and the same amount as Suarez.

Yakubu has more league goals than Suarez... means nothing.

For how little Bent does in a game, to justify spending £15m+ on him I'd want Torres like scoring stats. He offers nothing else at all mate

SerRenely
29-12-11, 16:32
If we can get him at a good price. He scores.

ForzaSuarez
29-12-11, 16:34
FourFourTom
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign Fiction Alplayer on January 1st. Young Uruguayan striker. Deal thought to be around £5million. #LFC

ForzaSuarez
29-12-11, 16:35
FourFourTom
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign Fiction Alplayer on January 1st. Young Uruguayan striker. Deal thought to be around £5million. #LFC

Who is he?

fy7reds
29-12-11, 16:36
FourFourTom
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign Fiction Alplayer on January 1st. Young Uruguayan striker. Deal thought to be around £5million. #LFC

Who is he?

You having a giggle?

Alpha Papa
29-12-11, 16:36
FourFourTom
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign Fiction Alplayer on January 1st. Young Uruguayan striker. Deal thought to be around £5million. #LFC

ROTFLMAO. In the most minor way possible.

-SilkySkills-
29-12-11, 16:36
FourFourTom
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign Fiction Alplayer on January 1st. Young Uruguayan striker. Deal thought to be around £5million. #LFC

Who is he?

: A bad joke ruined (http://cdn1.hark.com/images/000/007/184/7184/original.0)

arwales (R.I.P)
29-12-11, 16:36
:tumbleweed

Darrren1
29-12-11, 16:36
FourFourTom
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign Fiction Alplayer on January 1st. Young Uruguayan striker. Deal thought to be around £5million. #LFC

Who is he?

Definitely a made-up name.

SalahDressing
29-12-11, 16:36
Very good.

0oRallo0
29-12-11, 16:37
here is his youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPHaINA7NQ

KeemI
29-12-11, 16:37
Funny thing is this OP is dumb if the OP believes it and also dumb for a thread like this.

TeenageMutantNinJaSkrtel
29-12-11, 16:38
FourFourTom
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign Fiction Alplayer on January 1st. Young Uruguayan striker. Deal thought to be around £5million. #LFC

Who is he?

:PN:

April 1st already?

Emilvang
29-12-11, 16:38
Funny thing is this OP is dumb if the OP believes it and also dumb for a thread like this.

You're gonna feel really stupid when Fiction Alplayer signs!

ForzaSuarez
29-12-11, 16:39
Am i missing something? I don't get it at all, i thought we had genuinely signed someone.

Darrren1
29-12-11, 16:39
Yakubu has more league goals than Suarez... means nothing.

For how little Bent does in a game, to justify spending £15m+ on him I'd want Torres like scoring stats. He offers nothing else at all mate

Who cares if he doesnt do anything else? Maybe our trouble is that too many of our attacking players are getting involved in the build-up play and not being in the area when it matters. Offering nothing else but regular goals is fine with me.

Emilvang
29-12-11, 16:39
Am i missing something? I don't get it at all, i thought we had genuinely signed someone.

Fictional Player. :nowink:

arwales (R.I.P)
29-12-11, 16:40
Am i missing something? I don't get it at all, i thought we had genuinely signed someone.

It's funny because it sounds like fictional player hahahahahah roflmaoomgomgomgomgPMSL

phuzz
29-12-11, 16:40
Yakubu has more league goals than Suarez... means nothing.

For how little Bent does in a game, to justify spending £15m+ on him I'd want Torres like scoring stats. He offers nothing else at all mate

What if it's £15 million + Bent or no striker at all? What do you prefer?

-SilkySkills-
29-12-11, 16:40
It's funny because it sounds like fictional player hahahahahah roflmaoomgomgomgomgPMSL

Now i get it :laugh:

arwales (R.I.P)
29-12-11, 16:41
Can't believe the mods actually merged it in with the genuine football rumours and discussion.

Darrren1
29-12-11, 16:41
I dont believe it personally. There's no way we'd sign anyone with the initials FA.

CrawleyRed
29-12-11, 16:41
Who cares if he doesnt do anything else? Maybe our trouble is that too many of our attacking players are getting involved in the build-up play and not being in the area when it matters. Offering nothing else but regular goals is fine with me.

This

kop96lfc
29-12-11, 16:43
I'd take him for his goals even at spurs were he "flopped" his goal return was excellent.
Problem is I seriously doubt there's any truth in it and he'd cost too much, yes for me but at least third choice target.

Hatake
29-12-11, 16:43
I fully expect you to be demanding his sale by this time next year.

:laugh:

I think £15m is justifiable.

Sneets
29-12-11, 16:43
Strange player, sometimes looks totally inept and at other times looks like a world beater.

-SilkySkills-
29-12-11, 16:43
I dont believe it personally. There's no way we'd sign anyone with the initials FA.

I think that was part of the master plan in delivering the joke

I-SEE-red-PEOPLE
29-12-11, 16:43
Im betting this is complete garbage based on nothing more than fans discussing him on forums. Given that villa paid a fee that rises too 24 million would anyone pay that for him, id be sickened if we did.

arwales (R.I.P)
29-12-11, 16:44
I dont believe it personally. There's no way we'd sign anyone with the initials FA.

Especially not a Brazilian left back.

SweetSilverSeven
29-12-11, 16:45
I'd rather have someone with better technical quality, and someone who can be integrated into our build-up play
So not sure about his long-term prospects

But if we were to buy him, and managed to accomodate him well.... I'd be confident of a Top 4 position

ForzaSuarez
29-12-11, 16:49
Ahh i get it now :laugh:

Darrren1
29-12-11, 16:49
I think that was part of the master plan in delivering the joke

I'm not so sure it was.



Especially not a Brazilian left back.

Good point :D

kop96lfc
29-12-11, 16:51
We know a few things
1. He was under consideration by us before, at that time it was to play with Torres.
2. Rightly we decided against it as his style wouldn't of worked with spanish bloke.
3. We are playing well creating more chances than most teams but can't score.
4. Bent scores goals , even for a poor villa team who are extremely defensive.
5. Andy is struggling a bit if bent could come in and bang a few in then it might take the pressure off a bit.
6. Bent could play lone role or with any of our other strikers.

Jay spearing + Wilson on loan plus 14 million aye why not.

YanksAreComing
29-12-11, 16:53
How would buy bent and loan carroll sit with everyone?
Wouldnt like it one bit every team needs at least 3 capable strikers


Chelsea:
Drogba
Sturridge
Torres :D
Lukaku

Man city:
Balotelli
Aguero
Dzeko

Man united:
Rooney
Hernandez
Berbaflop
Welbeck

Liverpool:
Suarez
Carroll
Kuyt
Bent?
Bellamy

We need more quality don't need to get rid

Carlton Facepalmer
29-12-11, 16:53
Im betting this is complete garbage based on nothing more than fans discussing him on forums. Given that villa paid a fee that rises too 24 million would anyone pay that for him, id be sickened if we did.

I mentioned it to somebody at the bar yesterday, I'm sure that is where it originated!

WindyShepherdHenderson
29-12-11, 16:53
Berbaflop? Terrible nickname.

LucasHendo-LFC
29-12-11, 16:54
whats his fifa/fm stats like?

Speed, acceleration and finishing are all over 90 :tongue2:

aylesbyred
29-12-11, 16:54
wont sell many shirts coz i aint walking round with that on the back...

-SilkySkills-
29-12-11, 16:54
I'm not so sure it was.






I think your right

neongreekred
29-12-11, 16:55
Unfortunately (but for different reasons) it looks like we will be in a similar position this year as we were last year: desperately seeking a striker in the January market. Given that our plight is out there for everyone to see and the January market is inflated already, we are guaranteed to overpay. If I was John Henry, my thinking would run like this:

"Kenny, we backed you last year to get Carroll and Suarez in who we all agreed would form our key striker force for some years to come.The Carroll deal was a one-off, driven by Torres's departure. We will not be paying over the odds again under duress. We either need to find someone who will be a long-term solution (and then paying the market rate is no problem) or an inexpensive stop-gap. What we don't need (and won't do) is to pay over the odds for a stop-gap. If we can't identify the right candidate, then it's no deal; we will have to make do with what we have. Kenny, show us the guts and ability which helped you win all those titles and become a Liverpool legend."

Of course, I am not John Henry so what the hell do I know...:nowink:

YanksAreComing
29-12-11, 16:56
Berbaflop? Terrible nickname.

Sorry to dissapoint :(

Skip Bayless
29-12-11, 17:00
How would buy bent and loan carroll sit with everyone?


Wouldnt like it one bit every team needs at least 3 capable strikers


What's your point?

Rubber65Soul
29-12-11, 17:01
Unfortunately (but for different reasons) it looks like we will be in a similar position this year as we were last year: desperately seeking a striker in the January market. Given that our plight is out there for everyone to see and the January market is inflated already, we are guaranteed to overpay. If I was John Henry, my thinking would run like this:

"Kenny, we backed you last year to get Carroll and Suarez in who we all agreed would form our key striker force for some years to come.The Carroll deal was a one-off, driven by Torres's departure. We will not be paying over the odds again under duress. We either need to find someone who will be a long-term solution (and then paying the market rate is no problem) or an inexpensive stop-gap. What we don't need (and won't do) is to pay over the odds for a stop-gap. If we can't identify the right candidate, then it's no deal; we will have to make do with what we have. Kenny, show us the guts and ability which helped you win all those titles and become a Liverpool legend."

Of course, I am not John Henry so what the hell do I know...:nowink:

I agree with your thinking. I dont see the owners fessing up play money. Either its a cheaper veteran or a quality younger player for the long haul..

Then again, I do not know how badly John Henry wants a top four slot..

YanksAreComing
29-12-11, 17:02
I would be very happy if we signed Arshavin and Bent In January we would have a great squad

fy7reds
29-12-11, 17:02
wont sell many shirts coz i aint walking round with that on the back...

You would get a lot of new friends if you walked round Blackpool with one on.

aylesbyred
29-12-11, 17:03
You would get a lot of new friends if you walked round Blackpool with one on.

lol

ooh i made yr box go green :)

ForzaSuarez
29-12-11, 17:03
I would be very happy if we signed Arshavin and Bent In January we would have a great squad

Arshavin :ohmy:

-SilkySkills-
29-12-11, 17:04
how do you know these pony websites don't make things up ?

Tiggy2
29-12-11, 17:04
I say get Bent.

neongreekred
29-12-11, 17:07
I agree with your thinking. I dont see the owners fessing up play money. Either its a cheaper veteran or a quality younger player for the long haul..

Then again, I do not know how badly John Henry wants a top four slot..

I think he wants it pretty badly but I also think the Carroll experience (until now) has shown very vividly the risks of over-paying under duress. Henry is a businessman above all. I am willing to bet there is an overall framework guiding our transfer decisions which he will very much try to adhere to. Of course, **** happens and sometimes we need to be flexible; at the same time, this is exactly the situation where Kenny has to show he can do this job and earn his keep.

Darrren1
29-12-11, 17:07
Can somebody do that joke about a player wanting to go to a club where the strikers are Young, Bent and Keane? I'm too tired to work it out.

YanksAreComing
29-12-11, 17:08
Arshavin :ohmy:
For like 5 to 6 mil think would be a good deal

MickeyLove
29-12-11, 17:09
Is he close to the end of his contract? If not, he would cost us an absolute fortune surely?

LucasAintDancin
29-12-11, 17:10
I'd be more than happy with a move for Bent.

Kloppstachio
29-12-11, 17:10
FourFourTom
Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign Fiction Alplayer on January 1st. Young Uruguayan striker. Deal thought to be around £5million. #LFC

Who is he?

Would have been more convincing if it was Ficcion Elplaya.

Bewdleyfan
29-12-11, 17:12
Would have been more convincing if it was Ficcion Elplaya.

You have a point.

Skip Bayless
29-12-11, 17:12
Is he close to the end of his contract? If not, he would cost us an absolute fortune surely?

3 and a half years left and don't call me shirley.

:laugh: From his Wiki.


After a successful 18 months at Sunderland, he joined Aston Villa in 2011. On 29th December 2011 Bent agreed a £20 million four year deal with Liverpool FC, joining the club on 1st January 2012

RogerHuntelaar
29-12-11, 17:13
Would love it if we bought him.

LucasAintDancin
29-12-11, 17:16
Would love it if we bought him.

Thought you'd be against this.

Btw, Richard Buxton probably knows a thing or two - he's Liverpool based. bith of a **** though.

RogerHuntelaar
29-12-11, 17:17
Thought you'd be against this.

Btw, Richard Buxton probably knows a thing or two - he's Liverpool based. bith of a **** though.

Why? Bent guarantees you goals and goals are what we need.

YanksAreComing
29-12-11, 17:22
What's your point?

Would you rather have

Carroll, Suarez, Bent, Kuyt/Bellamy
Or

Bent,Suarez,kuyt, bellamy

Also a loan would kill any confidence he has he seems to be playing much better and is about to get a run of games

SweetSilverSeven
29-12-11, 17:24
Who cares if he doesnt do anything else? Maybe our trouble is that too many of our attacking players are getting involved in the build-up play and not being in the area when it matters. Offering nothing else but regular goals is fine with me.

This was definitely the problem against Norwich!!
Suarez missed a lot of sitters, but he was also one of the most creative players on the pitch

Therefore I felt Kuyt should've stayed central, and been the focal point of attack, and by the end of the game, I can barely remember Kuyt having many chances in on goal, even tho he was supposed to be partnering Suarez



Personally, I'm not too keen on Bent
I DO want someone, who will be integrated into our build-up play (contradictory I know :tongue2:)!! He's also 27, so you're not gonna expect a big improvement in that side of his game

But having said, if we were to buy Bent, I'd be very confident of a top 4 finish
And there's not too many players that would make me feel this way right now!!

Terrytibbs
29-12-11, 17:25
Bent is the striker equivalent of Maxi. Just gets goals somehow. Always seems to be in the right place, always seems to finish his chances. All without being particularly flashy or skilful. I put it down to positioning and having the knack to score, the ability to just do the right thing infront of goal, something Maxi seems to have and something we need in a forward.

MickeyLove
29-12-11, 17:26
3 and a half years left and don't call me shirley.

:laugh: From his Wiki.

Villa won't be letting him go for less than the 24 million they paid then?

Not a chance we should be spending that kind of money on him.

StrawberryMilkshake
29-12-11, 17:27
But having said, if we were to buy Bent, I'd be very confident of a top 4 finish
And there's not too many players that would make me feel this way right now!!

Exactly how I feel as well.

Which is making me think, go for it!

We need goals, we KNOW he'll score them. It's not even up for debate really.

If we can get him for under £20mil, I would welcome it.

-CADS-
29-12-11, 17:31
I'd love for this to happen. Unfortunately he would come at a premium and I'm not sure after financing such a spending spree in the last 12 months, FSG wouldn't be reluctant about getting another £20m+ signing.

LucasAintDancin
29-12-11, 17:33
Why? Bent guarantees you goals and goals are what we need.

FFFFFFFFleetcherrr:angry::tongue2:

blaze31
29-12-11, 17:33
Not for me he's average, misses just as many sitters we've got a few of those already.

He'd cost 20+

We know the British players are over priced id rather us go for someone else, summer will be the window for us January will be a stop gap, hope Kenny will get someone on loan for 4 months or so.

Kloppstachio
29-12-11, 17:34
For around 15m I'd be all for it ... he is definitely a proven goalscorer. But he just signed with Villa for 20m not so long ago so I we're talking serious money here and I think there are better strikers (ability wise) to be had for that kind of money.

For example, Seydou Doumbia of CSKA Moscow who lit up the CL (5 games - 5 goals) this year. He would probably be around 22-25m at this point.

On the other end of the spectrum, what do others think of Shane Long instead ? WBA just got him for less than 6m. From what little I've seen of him this season, seems like a good player who would thrive with the kinds of opportunities we create.

kop96lfc
29-12-11, 17:35
Apparently villa are still skint Bent dosent like big eck's style big eck wants a more workhorse striker and wants other signings. So who knows, someone told me a few weeks back that talks had already been held between owners and Lerner is ready to sell even at a loss.
Think they paid 18 mil for him rising to 24 based on add ons and considering theey have done nothing they won't of paid the extra six or have to if they flog him.

Not Jan yet and first big rumour from dodgy source and three page thread on it, gotta love the transfer window.

ndliverpool
29-12-11, 17:35
Haha - unlikely, only happens when players have been woeful.

Seriously though, we do need a finisher. He can finish, he has scored goals everywhere he has been.

The worry is though, he would be a stop gap, you don't really spend £20+ million on a stop gap.

A swap deal with Carroll would be perfect.


Swap deal with Carroll would be perfect? Yeah, let's get rid of a promising 22 year old striker we just paid 35 million for because he hasn't settled in quickly enough.

How many players have you called out in the past year? Let me take a guess.

Carroll
Adam
Lucas
Maxi
Johnson
Downing
Kuyt
Spearing
Carra
Henderson

Yes, they all stink. Sell them all!

Could we improve our side? Yes. But thank god you trigger happy people aren't managing liverpool.

Thespian
29-12-11, 17:35
Not for me we currently have our own Darren Bent in Andy Carroll IMO both are of similar ability but one has age on his side.

Once Andy's confidence is up he will start scoring goals, therefore I would rather look for another striker as opposed to spending big on Bent and then ending up with two forwards of a similar quality.

LucasAintDancin
29-12-11, 17:36
, what do others think of Shane Long instead ? WBA just got him for less than 6m. From what little I've seen of him this season, seems like a good player who would thrive with the kinds of opportunities we create.

I've wanted this since his early Reading days. Top young player.

Alon1
29-12-11, 17:36
not quite sure this is a good idea, we would have to pay a lot of money for a player with limited ability.

-Bodie-
29-12-11, 17:38
Never rated him as a top 6 player but with the chances we are creating i'd love him here. I reckon even i could have had 20 goals this season.

-CADS-
29-12-11, 17:39
Not for me we currently have our own Darren Bent in Andy Carroll IMO both are of similar ability but one has age on his side.

Once Andy's confidence is up he will start scoring goals, therefore I would rather look for another striker as opposed to spending big and ending up with two of a similar quality.

How can you begin to say they're of the same ability? One's been the highest scorer of PL goals in the last 6 or so years (not called Rooney or Drogba) and the other's still very much unproven.

Red-And-Proud
29-12-11, 17:41
Too British.

DannyMillz
29-12-11, 17:43
Call me fickle but I absolutely love Ba. He takes all his chances, tracks back, scores different goals every game. Just a week back he scored a cracker of a freekick. Whenever Newcastle don't have the ball I see him become the third centre mid to try winning the ball back. I honestly think he is one of the most complete strikers I have seen in the Premier League for a while. People go on and on about Van Persie but I think Ba has been just as impressive.

Like I said call me fickle, but i'd love it if we went for him.