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    ^ Watch this once more.
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    A tireless riposte at long last recognised within Fleet Street,

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...t-8554790.html

    A superb article by James Lawton of The Independent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratease View Post
    A tireless riposte at long last recognised within Fleet Street,

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...t-8554790.html

    A superb article by James Lawton of The Independent.
    Agreed mate, a really good article and one that makes you think about the reasons why people should receive such an honour.

    Now I clearly dont know Mr Hicks, but I dont think he would accept a Knighthood, or OBE MBE, whatever may be bestowed. I think he would appreciate the gesture but something tells me it wouldnt sit right with him accepting this.

    The honour from him perspective would be seeing justice prevail, and the fact he was one of many that ulitmately achieved it.

    Another scenario, and clearly this is a 'what if', but lets say Bettison doesnt lose his knighthood? I think we could safely say that's the death knell for the honours system, as it truly will mean nothing if he remains a Knight of the Realm.

    What do you think?
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    If only....
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    It's quite rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratease View Post
    It's quite rare.
    Indeed, but what happened after Hillsborough was extraordinary, so lets hope an exceptional event warrants equally exceptional redress.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEFLYINGPIG View Post
    Indeed, but what happened after Hillsborough was extraordinary, so lets hope an exceptional event warrants equally exceptional redress.......
    Eloquently put.
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    We do not seek 'revenge' for painful slights against us, we seek justice and accountability for mistakes and ommissions - as well as the lies that were told in print against us just to sell a newspaper (which I used to cut up into squares the following day for the outside toilet in the backyard when I was a kid).

    ... I hope one day that these people who abstain from their past responsibilities will understand one day that when Samuel Butler wrote, 'It is better to have loved and lost than never to have lost all.', is ironic and not a pseudonym. What matters is that it is better to love and treasure who we still have living and most of all remember those whom we have lost. The fact is it is better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all, and we loved our ones, all ninety six of them - that we have lost and they will always be remembered.

    Justice...
    If we will have justice we will have a peace that has been too long negated after witnessing, in some parts of the media, a denigration over the years.


    Justice For The 96.

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    'Ordinary people have achieved extraordinary things...'

    http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...ersary-special

    Respect to the owners of Liverpool FC and Everton FC together.

    Justice.

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    A truly sad day today with the passing of Anne Williams who has been the bulwark against injustice in respect of her son and all of the 96 in battling with the legal system along with other family members of the victims - and winning. The truth is out.

    http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...-anne-williams

    Justice is next.

    My sincere and heart felt condolences go out to Anne's family and friends.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...williams-dies1
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    A tribute to Anne Williams from Liverpool FC,

    http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...ue-inspiration

    Truly mums are inspirational.
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    I had the privilege of being at Professor Phil Scraton's talk at Queen's University on wednesday. Everyone should watch this.

    http://www.mediator.qub.ac.uk/ms/Law/PSHillsborough.mp4
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    Outstanding JP@LFC, and this should be watched and highlighted!

    Phil Scraton is his name - now people who did not know now will understand why he is an accredited professor.

    http://www.mediator.qub.ac.uk/ms/Law/PSHillsborough.mp4 - courtesy of JP@LFC.

    Thank you very much for this wonderful post of his lecture!

    YNWA
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    @Socratease You're very welcome! I was blown away by his lecture personally and it's the only keynote I've ever seen where people stood and applauded the speaker.

    YNWA
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    Top notch, JP@LFC!
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    Justice requires that the lies and the untruths are to be addressed and corrected, but it must never be forgotten that the untruths and the lies were continually perpetuated over so/too many years, months and days.

    So many lives have come to full stop.

    So many lives need to have justice to live once more in order to remove the onus of injustice that blights our loved ones and their families.

    After all of these years justice seemed ethereal and out of reach for the ninety six, but a long process of examination is in place and it will be addressed in the law courts.

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    Justice for the 96 and their families.
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    Good news http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...-set-for-march, but there are too many casualties to count who suffered with post traumatic stress disorder witnessed by those who were there and some are not here with us today.
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    Check, 'The Making Of'... down the page.

    http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...rdicts-quashed



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    Remember,

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119265/

    "Delays are not acceptable - under no circumstances."

    Margaret Aspinall - Chair Person of the HFSG and noted as 'Mother Of The Year 2013'. http://www.tescomagazine.com/mum-of-...-aspinall.html
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    "The first national disgrace was that 96 people died at a football match. The second disgrace was the lies and the cover-up. The third will be if they make the families fight for the accountability. This campaign isn't about vengeance, it never has been. It's about putting something very wrong right. It's basically about enduring and unconditional love for our loved ones.
    Jenni Hicks.
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    Justice does not advocate violence - it condemns it, yet over many years the 96 have been slandered as yobs ~ it will be the court that sets/corrects the records straight.

    JFT96

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    Stephen Wright, brother of Graham Wright


    "It's not the end yet, we'll keep going until we have a satisfactory conclusion. Prison means nothing to me for these people - they have lived with what they've done. I'm not a vindictive man. They lied and they've got to live with their lies; one day they'll get their day of reckoning. I just want peace for my family; peace and justice is all that matters to me. We'll get our day, our day will come - but we want it over on our terms. I'm not interested in any mealy-mouthed judgements; it's got to be right for the families and the survivors."

    Justice.
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    "Don't let force have such a control of you that you allow your hate to trample justice down."

    Sophocles, 'Ajax'.
    The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance. Socrates.
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