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    Quote Originally Posted by I-SEE-red-PEOPLE View Post
    I don't believe in Aliens visiting this planets,
    Not even the red people you've seen?
    Last edited by Liddelwomen; 21-5-11 at 12:32. Reason: needed to add red
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    Not even the red people you've seen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    Which would be bad for those in the craft. However, it wouldn't even make a dink, physically, to anything surrounding it. Thermo-nuclear explosions are the energy of space.
    True.
    Hazardous to space travellers, but run of the mill stuff for the mother universe obviously.

    Wormholes and Warp Drives, really are the only possible scenarios that could present any possibilites for travelling such vast distances though, imo.
    As we understand science and physics, in any case.

    Speed and distance is obviously the barrier.
    It's not inconceivable that the barrier could be broken though, because that's what civilisations tend to do as they progress: work through the barriers.
    If there's any universal laws, I expect that Civilisations defining their snese of purpose by doing so, to be high on the list, tbh. And unaffected by the possibility of any changing, of physical laws, in differing parts of this universe, or indeed other spaces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    Not even the red people you've seen?
    I live amongst the Iroquois in a teepee made of tinfoil.
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    Has anyone got a suggestion for any good books on the subject of the universe etc? Not too much theory or too complex to understand, something in layman's terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasBornAgain View Post
    Has anyone got a suggestion for any good books on the subject of the universe etc? Not too much theory or too complex to understand, something in layman's terms.
    The Holy Bible is a good Science Fiction attempt to explain life existing in other parts of the universe, imo.
    But Star Wars is more realistic and believable.
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    The audio book pulp physics is ace, the reader is very monotone but relaxing and very interesting. Death by black hole is good too by neil degrasse tyson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josiewales View Post
    The Holy Bible is a good Science Fiction attempt to explain life existing in other parts of the universe, imo.
    But Star Wars is more realistic and believable.
    Not read either yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondred View Post
    I haven't seen that conclusion, can you post it please?
    It was on a documentary on the History Channel called "Monster Quest"

    http://www.history.com/shows/monster...res#alien-rods

    An edit of the conclusions of this program are on Youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMc5HpvIp0g&feature=fvst
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasBornAgain View Post
    Has anyone got a suggestion for any good books on the subject of the universe etc? Not too much theory or too complex to understand, something in layman's terms.
    Buy the series "Stephen Hawking's Universe". There are three documentaries:

    Are we alone
    Time Travel
    Into the Universe

    These offer a very accessible and informative guide to space and time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlabbyRoad View Post
    It was on a documentary on the History Channel called "Monster Quest"

    http://www.history.com/shows/monster...res#alien-rods

    An edit of the conclusions of this program are on Youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMc5HpvIp0g&feature=fvst
    The Panasonic engineer answers it for me. Same could be applied to ghost images captured on film too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    Buy the series "Stephen Hawking's Universe". There are three documentaries:

    Are we alone
    Time Travel
    Into the Universe

    These offer a very accessible and informative guide to space and time.
    He said layman terms Even though Hawkins has dumbed his book down as much as possible it still gave me a headache
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlabbyRoad View Post
    It was on a documentary on the History Channel called "Monster Quest"

    http://www.history.com/shows/monster...res#alien-rods

    An edit of the conclusions of this program are on Youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMc5HpvIp0g&feature=fvst
    I haven't seen that program before, I just watched the conclusions on the youtube video, seems very plausible apart from one aspect, when they used the super camera along side the normal camera to film the moth, the super camera got the rod effect and the normal camera just recorded a moth, most people have normal video cameras, they don't have super speed cameras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vBulletinCheddar View Post
    He said layman terms Even though Hawkins has dumbed his book down as much as possible it still gave me a headache
    which is why I watched the tv series !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    impossible according to our laws of physics
    Our laws of physics are woefully inadequate though.

    We know virtually nothing, and any physicist who believe we're 'close' to knowing how the universe works is either massively stupid, or massively naive.

    We don't even understand gravity. That's how much our knowledge of physics and space is lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-SEE-red-PEOPLE View Post
    The audio book pulp physics is ace, the reader is very monotone but relaxing and very interesting. Death by black hole is good too by neil degrasse tyson.
    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by vBulletinCheddar View Post
    He said layman terms Even though Hawkins has dumbed his book down as much as possible it still gave me a headache
    You beat me to it, I was going to ask NYLON39 that, watched him on TV docs quite a bit, can be hard to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny-Noons-Ghost View Post
    Our laws of physics are woefully inadequate though.

    We know virtually nothing, and any physicist who believe we're 'close' to knowing how the universe works is either massively stupid, or massively naive.

    We don't even understand gravity. That's how much our knowledge of physics and space is lacking.
    You should go on the 9/11 thread, half of the people on there seem to have written the laws on gravity and physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondred View Post
    I haven't seen that program before, I just watched the conclusions on the youtube video, seems very plausible apart from one aspect, when they used the super camera along side the normal camera to film the moth, the super camera got the rod effect and the normal camera just recorded a moth, most people have normal video cameras, they don't have super speed cameras.
    No it was the other way round, the moth looked like a moth on the superfast camera. The rod was on the normal camera. As you say most people have normal cameras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondred View Post
    You should go on the 9/11 thread, half of the people on there seem to have written the laws on gravity and physics.
    I stayed well clear of that nonsense

    I absolutely love physics, and the universe, and more specifically UFOs.

    I'll rep you for the OP as soon as I can - was excellent and I'm sure I'll be reading most of those pages thoroughly later As luck would have it though I'm going out in 5 minutes

    One of the best conversations I had was a 4-hour long discussion on the probability of UFOs, and our tiny knowledge of space, with 3 professors of cosmology from America. I saw them in a coffee shop, and recognised one from a TV program I'd watch 2 days earlier. I'm stufying maths at uni, and my knowledge on the subject was TINY compared to theirs - but some of the ideas they opened my eyes too were, simply, phenomenal.

    Too many 'mainstream' physicists and cosmologists refuse to think outside the box - but thinking outside the box is EXACTLY what nature, and the universe, does.

    Are there aliens out there? 100% definately. Even if they're microscopic bacteria, there WILL be aliens.

    Will there be other 'intelligent life'? Almost certainly.

    Hell, you wanna try talking to someone who believes we're descended from an alien life form - that's a fun coversation to have. After all, it's just as plausible as us being 'created' by a celestial being
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny-Noons-Ghost View Post
    Our laws of physics are woefully inadequate though.

    We know virtually nothing, and any physicist who believe we're 'close' to knowing how the universe works is either massively stupid, or massively naive.

    We don't even understand gravity. That's how much our knowledge of physics and space is lacking.
    Sorry, you're spot on. We know nothing. We don't even understand gravity, that force we're able to name, describe, measure and even overcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    Sorry, you're spot on. We know nothing. We don't even understand gravity, that force we're able to name, describe, measure and even overcome.
    He's right though, we don't understand it, not with reference to the wider universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny-Noons-Ghost View Post
    I stayed well clear of that nonsense

    I absolutely love physics, and the universe, and more specifically UFOs.

    Too many 'mainstream' physicists and cosmologists refuse to think outside the box - but thinking outside the box is EXACTLY what nature, and the universe, does.

    Are there aliens out there? 100% definately. Even if they're microscopic bacteria, there WILL be aliens.

    Will there be other 'intelligent life'? Almost certainly.

    Hell, you wanna try talking to someone who believes we're descended from an alien life form - that's a fun coversation to have. After all, it's just as plausible as us being 'created' by a celestial being
    Agree with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    Sorry, you're spot on. We know nothing. We don't even understand gravity, that force we're able to name, describe, measure and even overcome.


    Yet we can't explain why it doesn't work on a 'grand scale' in galaxies.

    &We also cannot see it. When physics dictates that for gravity to work, there MUST be a particle (a graviton) causing it to act. &This particle has NEVER been recorded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    No it was the other way round, the moth looked like a moth on the superfast camera. The rod was on the normal camera. As you say most people have normal cameras.
    Really? I thought the superfast camera was the one on the left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by josiewales View Post
    He's right though, we don't understand it, not with reference to the wider universe.
    I accept that we don't fully understand it. I also accept we know little with respect to fundamental items in comparison to macroscopic items. To say we know nothing is going too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondred View Post
    Really? I thought the superfast camera was the one on the left?
    Sorry, I didn't notice which was which, I went by the commentary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    I accept that we don't fully understand it. I also accept we know little with respect to fundamental items in comparison to macroscopic items. To say we know nothing is going too far.
    I don't think that he meant "nothing", when he said "nothing".
    That's all I'm saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    Sorry, I didn't notice which was which, I went by the commentary.
    Damn you NYLON!!!!! I have to rewatch it now!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by josiewales View Post
    I don't think that he meant "nothing", when he said "nothing".
    That's all I'm saying.
    Fair enough. I think I know what you mean by his later posts about loving physics and measuring particles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYLON39 View Post
    Fair enough. I think I know what you mean by his later posts about loving physics and measuring particles.
    His love of measuring minute particles, is of no matter.
    imo.

    I truly believe, that somewhere, some time, in another dimension, there's an LFC forum, with a "Sign Anti-Mata!" thread
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