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    Speaking of fuel consumption, i do remember a few years back our old friend jezzer clarkson buying a new model Ford GT, then finding that the range on the car due to its appaling mpg was actually less than the distance between his house and the topgear studios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    Speaking of fuel consumption, i do remember a few years back our old friend jezzer clarkson buying a new model Ford GT, then finding that the range on the car due to its appaling mpg was actually less than the distance between his house and the topgear studios.

    i remember that, i like that dude though, he has av sense of semblance about car manufactures in that they do noting innovative anymore. In fact he does promote car manus from the other side of the world
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    Quote Originally Posted by prredhouse View Post
    i remember that, i like that dude though, he has av sense of semblance about car manufactures in that they do noting innovative anymore. In fact he does promote car manus from the other side of the world
    I know, but i couldnt help *********** myself since he was going on about this car for weeks, and when he finally got it it caused no end of trouble for him till he sold it
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    thats it im buying a tata, why because it aint a renault and it would be more reliable!
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    Isn't the cost of petrol just going to ever increase with time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasIsDancin View Post
    Isn't the cost of petrol just going to ever increase with time?
    Yes,but nowhere near the acceptable levels of inflation increments. It's increasing disproportionately. The normal working public can't keep up with the increase level rate.
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    It's the sickening revelation when the the Oil companies are constantly increasing their profits that really gets me annoyed but then again the increase is largely tax as opposed to just greedy providers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stim View Post
    Yes,but nowhere near the acceptable levels of inflation increments. It's increasing disproportionately. The normal working public can't keep up with the increase level rate.
    And how/why is this happening? Disproportioante tax increases?
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    I was banned from driving 18 months ago for a year. It may as well have been for 5 years because there is no way I can afford insurance let alone petrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasIsDancin View Post
    And how/why is this happening? Disproportioante tax increases?
    Yes Dancin spot on. Oil prices aren't high,Fuel Duty & VAT rates are,both of which are tariffed onto Fuel. Yes, we are taxed twice on the same single consumer item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stim View Post
    Yes Dancin spot on. Oil prices aren't high,Fuel Duty & VAT rates are.
    Government(s) probably think they can get away with it because they can act like they suddenly care about environement ect..
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasIsDancin View Post
    And how/why is this happening? Disproportioante tax increases?
    I remember seeing a thread maybe a 2 years ago and the reported break down was something like the below information; How Petrol Prices are decided

    about 45% is Fuel Duty
    30% is the Manufacturer (obviously this includes quite a few costs too like cost of crude oil, refining and distribution.
    20% is VAT
    5% is the retailer/pump station


    Now obviously prices have continued to increase at an even faster rate but it gives you an idea how much of it is tax based. In reality I would say the truest prices are probably somewhere between 65-70% is purely tax although with it's massive increase it could be steadily impacting the % breakdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioltas View Post
    I remember seeing a thread maybe a 2 years ago and the reported break down was something like the below information; How Petrol Prices are decided

    about 45% is Fuel Duty
    30% is the Manufacturer (obviously this includes quite a few costs too like cost of crude oil, refining and distribution.
    20% is VAT
    5% is the retailer/pump station


    Now obviously prices have continued to increase at an even faster rate but it gives you an idea how much of it is tax based. In reality I would say the truest prices are probably somewhere between 65-70% is purely tax although with it's massive increase it could be steadily impacting the % breakdown.
    70% tax.. shocking that. Thank **** I don't drive nor plan to anytime in the future. I'm a proper bus ******
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumbrian View Post
    I was banned from driving 18 months ago for a year. It may as well have been for 5 years because there is no way I can afford insurance let alone petrol.
    If you don't mind me asking Cumbrian,what was the ban for? An accumulation of speeding offences?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stim View Post
    If you don't mind me asking Cumbrian,what was the ban for? An accumulation of speeding offences?
    Drink driving. Wasn't much over and was driving less than half mile but that's life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumbrian View Post
    Drink driving. Wasn't much over and was driving less than half mile but that's life.
    Bad one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumbrian View Post
    Drink driving. Wasn't much over and was driving less than half mile but that's life.
    You can always get the bus like me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasIsDancin View Post
    You can always get the bus like me?
    I had to take a bus to school for 7 years about 30 miles from where I lived, it was only maybe an hour up and then an hour back but I think I would genuinely turn to suicide if I had to rely on buses again, I fork out about £200 a month on petrol now to get me to work but at least I'm not thinking about ending my life during the journey lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasIsDancin View Post
    You can always get the bus like me?
    Yeah that's what I do. My work gives you a bus pass for a fiver a month so I'd be daft to get a car. I've got my license back. No one will insure me on my girlfriends car and I imagine it will be at least a £1500 for me to insure a 1 litre car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasIsDancin View Post
    You can always get the bus like me?
    Dancin, I see your immediate future with one of these! But with a big bad 12" Sub installed in the storage Top-Box! Hey,90+ mpg,low maintenance & bombproof reliability isn't to be sniffed at!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumbrian View Post
    Drink driving. Wasn't much over and was driving less than half mile but that's life.
    Sorry but you lost all sympathy when you said that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    Sorry but you lost all sympathy when you said that.
    Somebody asked him a question, he wasn't seeking sympathy or a response from anyone but Stim, he could easily have made up speeding offences etc but he was engaging directly with another poster, there's no need for you to judge him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caspertheghost View Post
    I tried that thing today at the petrol station where you try and stop the pump bang on what you want to pay, but let it go a fraction too late and it stopped on £20.03.
    "********!" I shouted and walked into the shop to pay.
    "Unlucky, mate," smiled the attendant, who'd seen what I'd done. "Don't worry about the extra."
    "Cheers, mate," I said as I handed him my tenner and ****** off.
    You saved £10.03, good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stim View Post
    In 1997 Unleaded Petrol was under 60p per litre,it is now £1.41.9 per litre.
    How long will it be before the U.K. motorist grows a pair and does something about it. Like sacrificing a days pay,taking a packed lunch & parking up on the motorway for a protest to our greedy government. Or park outside of the Houses Of Parliament to let them know we're sick & tired of being conned everyday for everything,because of course everything that's consumed by the consumer travels by road.
    So how long will it be? Will it be a time frame thing of say 6-12 months or when the price hits £1.50 + per litre?
    If we don't let them know,they'll think it's alright to keep conning us and this will keep escalating. When is enough,enough?
    It will cost £9 for that privilege with the congestion fee!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioltas View Post
    Somebody asked him a question, he wasn't seeking sympathy or a response from anyone but Stim, he could easily have made up speeding offences etc but he was engaging directly with another poster, there's no need for you to judge him.
    Actually he did, he started off by complaining that his 18 month ban might as well be 5 years since he cant afford the petrol. He was banned for drink driving to my original comment is still valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    Actually he did, he started off by complaining that his 18 month ban might as well be 5 years since he cant afford the petrol. He was banned for drink driving to my original comment is still valid.
    That's complaining about petrol not his reason for being banned. Anyway I don't see the point in continuing this discussion but there was absolutely zero need for you to weigh in with that.
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    The way I see it is somewhere out there someone as developed a engine that does not need petrol or diesel,but most likely the plans are locked away in some big oil companies vaults ready for the day oil runs out, then they sting you for the fuel cell to run it!
    Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell
    Main article: Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell


    Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell[11]
    Stanley Meyer claimed that he ran a dune buggy on water instead of petrol. He replaced the spark plugs with "injectors" to spray a fine mist of water into the engine cylinders, which he claimed were subjected to an electrical resonance. The "fuel cell" would split the water mist into hydrogen and oxygen gas, which would then be combusted back into water vapour in a conventional internal combustion engine to produce net energy. Meyer's claims were never independently verified, and in an Ohio court in 1996 he was found guilty of fraud.[1] He died of an aneurysm in 1998, although conspiracy theories persist in which it is claimed that he was poisoned.[12]
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    Quote Originally Posted by prredhouse View Post
    thats it im buying a tata, why because it aint a renault and it would be more reliable!

    I take it you don't live in Europe ? They wont pass the crash tests etc so wont be sold here.

    Save your money and buy one of Britains best......... The Reliant !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viss View Post
    I take it you don't live in Europe ? They wont pass the crash tests etc so wont be sold here.

    Save your money and buy one of Britains best......... The Reliant !
    Yes, a safe car if i have ever seen one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel102999 View Post
    Yes, a safe car if i have ever seen one.
    Any idiot can roll a reliant if you but a 10" wheel on one side and a 14" on the other, just as clarkson did ! I know one of the guys in the club he met, it was supposed to be a proper section on brit 3 wheelers, the peel, reliant and bond etc but in typical top gear style it didnt. I own two and i love em to pieces, £29 to fill it and good for 240 miles. Happy days !
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