£37.50 for half a tank that lasts me 2 weeks thats £75 a month
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£37.50 for half a tank that lasts me 2 weeks thats £75 a month
Originally Posted by caspertheghost
Oil is running out and the present economic systems of the Western World (and now the Eastern World) are heading towards oblivion if this goes on/ Everything revolves around oil. The transport of foodstuffs,goods and even the fuel itself, plastics, fertiliser to make food ......etc.
And that price at the pumps keeps going up and up. I fear for the future.
Half price petrol.
Bicycles and enhanced public transport should have been our present. Let's hope it's our future.
Thanks for nothing,rotten Government!
It goes up again in August,despite Saudi upping production & more seabound tankers heading to Europe....thanks again.
Last edited by Stim; 24-3-12 at 22:03.
Which is the big killer.. Why can't the VAT be taken off? Theyed still make a fortune... I'd like to see the figures on how much the country earns from fuels per week.. I'm guessing it's a good few billion
It's not that bad, the price of fuel is actually pretty cheap, the trouble in the UK is that we pay a hefty amount of tax on our fuel, pretty much 50%.
It's either that or we pay more income tax or whatever else.
Given we live in a society where we're trying to be greener and use less carbon-based fuels, the fact that a high fuel price might discourage people from using cars is hardly at odds with that.
The solution: car share; drive when necessary and don't live a log way from where you work.
Okay, that's a pretty daft statement, especially when people can't find work near to home - but as a society we're slowly going to have to learn that being able to hop into the car and drive for 100 miles at minimal cost is not a right.
The crusade to get people into smaller, more efficient cars is a lot more effective if it's achieved through high pump prices than slightly higher road tax - that way, people think about their vehicle use every time they put fuel into it.
Not to say I like it, mind: I'm now able to get £100 of fuel into an empty tank
When I first moved to Dubai it cost me £9 to fill up my car, it now costs me £14
It's 94 cents per litre here. I don't drive though but the cost of the tram has gone up by 10cents, a return journey costs 2.50€ but if you have a 'bono' ticket 12€, 20€... etc it's 1.05€ each way.
I think they want more off the U.K. roads,because the roads can no longer be maintained let alone expanded. Just look at the state of the roads,they have foot deep holes in them,massive piles of roadsalt swept into heaps by traffic that hasn't even been swept up from our winter,my mate cycles to work & he's getting loads & loads of punctures because of the bits of metal at the side of the road....they've stopped sweeping the roads!!! Road Infrastructure - It's starting to fall to peices.
Van,with the traffic jams,the state of the road network generally in a bad state of repair I think the U.K. is slowly going to learn that a Honda Cub-90 or it's equivalent is the way forward. 75 Million People cannot be wrong.It's either that or we pay more income tax or whatever else.
Given we live in a society where we're trying to be greener and use less carbon-based fuels, the fact that a high fuel price might discourage people from using cars is hardly at odds with that.
The solution: car share; drive when necessary and don't live a log way from where you work.
Okay, that's a pretty daft statement, especially when people can't find work near to home - but as a society we're slowly going to have to learn that being able to hop into the car and drive for 100 miles at minimal cost is not a right.
The crusade to get people into smaller, more efficient cars is a lot more effective if it's achieved through high pump prices than slightly higher road tax - that way, people think about their vehicle use every time they put fuel into it.
Not to say I like it, mind: I'm now able to get £100 of fuel into an empty tank
100mpg+ Next to no maintenance cost,cheap tyres etc etc.....it's an obvious ubiquitous solution to an obvious growing problem. Reluctantly,we'll have no choice but to give up the car-it'll come to a point where the car won't work anymore in the U.K. -the choice will be taken from us ...a bit like a highly populated communist country.
Last edited by Stim; 25-3-12 at 16:28.
we should nationalise the industry and use the vast profits these oil companies make to invest in finding workable alternatives.
OPEC would never stand for that, and you'd have the American oil embargo of the late 1970s all over again.
Why would they not accept it?, its ours to do what we see fit with.
No they arent, they are multinational corporations.
if we nationalise then their ours. Did Venezuala not recently nationalise their oil industry?
Because its called theft in legal terms.
Yes, and it was illegal then as well.
how is it that it is not considered theft when venezuela nationlised its oil industry?
So be it, if its theft then let it be theft. We went into Iraq illegally and didn't give a monkeys about the consequences so lets nationlise our oil industry and use the profits for 1) reduce the cost of oil so industry can share in the lower cost and 2) use the profits to find viable alternatives and 3) when we have found a viable alternative sell it to the OPEC gangsters for vast amounts of profit so we can all live happily ever after.....sorted !
And now Venezuala and Chavez are pariahs in the world economy, What they did is illegal, but because of the laws in that country they can do what they want like most corrupt regimes around the world.
Britain has no legal standing to do the same, and rightly so.
The world doesnt, and never has worked that way. Sorry.
If we did it i'm sure we will not become a pariah it just won't happen, and once others have seen the benefits then they will more than likely follow suit.
Whats the alternative, keep watching the price rise higher and higher and watching more and more businesses going to the wall because of inflated prices as a result, and then watch the good ole USofA bombing the crap out of another country for its desperate need for more oil with us in tow?
it did before we sold off everything off to the highest bidder
Are you kidding? We would have more lawsuits than ryan giggs to deal with. And not to mention every company would never do business in this country again, let alone governments.
The world has always gone to the highest bidder since the Romans
Rubbish, do you honestly think that governments/companies would boycott us, we are not Iran or Cuba. They will moan and threaten to do it but will never go through with it. A bit like the rich plums who threaten to leave the country when tax wnet up to 50% and none of them did.
We will pay the companies a small fraction of what its worth or nothing, their choice. They have enjoyed the immense amount of profits for so long, now its time to give back.
No it didn't. It started off with thatcher who decided to sell everything off !
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