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    Why do people talk about net spend - it is about the money that is available and what you do with it. Henderson plays like a whimp at the moment - he does not have it in his character to improve sufficiently to continue to pull on the shirt.

    By the way - why does the LFC website close down all of the comment threads when people want to have their say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BinaryMan100110101 View Post
    I personally love the Go penetrate yourself with an infected, rusty and sharp pointy thing. bit!

    Yes, it took me all of five seconds to think of that one. Are you sitting comfortably? then I'll begin...kenny is staying...the long term, local, match going fanbase decided that ages ago.

    YNWA
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    Why do people talk about net spend - it is about the money that is available and what you do with it. Henderson plays like a whimp at the moment - he does not have it in his character to improve sufficiently to continue to pull on the shirt.

    By the way - why does the LFC website close down all of the comment threads when people want to have their say?
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    Sacking Kenny would be madness. Especially as, Unai Emery aside, there isn't any good manager out there that we could realistically get that would actually improve.

    However, there has to be big questions asked at our general performances this season:

    Why do we become complacent when in the lead?

    We need to remain focused for 90 minutes

    Why can't we finish chances?

    My answer would be that, because we play without a striker effectively when Carroll is not on the pitch, we lack a player with that "poacher" instinct. Carroll isn't any good but at least when plays we play with a striker allowing the likes of Suarez to play the Silva/Mata role rather than have to worry about alsop being the main striker as well.

    Why is the club obsessed with trimming the wage bill despite spending vast amounts

    We have spend 20m at least on Downing, Carroll and Henderson with the idea that they are home-grown and will not be demanding huge wages. Yet I fail to believe that for one minute that they are on "low" wages and the difference between spending more on wages and less on stupid transfer fees is probably not that great. Also wouldn't the club rather have spent a bit more on attracting the likes of Mata, Martinez, Soldado etc rather than what we currently have. Also I will be absolutely baffled if we do not go for Hoillet this summer with him being on a free. Especially, as he is a low risk transfer and if he doesn't work out then we can always sell at a profit. Plus is only 21 (same age as Henderson and probably better on the wing)

    Why is there a perception, both by fans, the club and even the odd pundit, that are simply unlucky?

    We are not unlucky. We are getting what we deserve for the reasons mentioned above
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDiggerBarnes View Post
    Sacking Kenny would be madness. Especially as, Unai Emery aside, there isn't any good manager out there that we could realistically get that would actually improve.

    However, there has to be big questions asked at our general performances this season:

    Why do we become complacent when in the lead?

    We need to remain focused for 90 minutes

    Why can't we finish chances?

    My answer would be that, because we play without a striker effectively when Carroll is not on the pitch, we lack a player with that "poacher" instinct. Carroll isn't any good but at least when plays we play with a striker allowing the likes of Suarez to play the Silva/Mata role rather than have to worry about alsop being the main striker as well.

    Why is the club obsessed with trimming the wage bill despite spending vast amounts

    We have spend 20m at least on Downing, Carroll and Henderson with the idea that they are home-grown and will not be demanding huge wages. Yet I fail to believe that for one minute that they are on "low" wages and the difference between spending more on wages and less on stupid transfer fees is probably not that great. Also wouldn't the club rather have spent a bit more on attracting the likes of Mata, Martinez, Soldado etc rather than what we currently have. Also I will be absolutely baffled if we do not go for Hoillet this summer with him being on a free. Especially, as he is a low risk transfer and if he doesn't work out then we can always sell at a profit. Plus is only 21 (same age as Henderson and probably better on the wing)

    Why is there a perception, both by fans, the club and even the odd pundit, that are simply unlucky?

    We are not unlucky. We are getting what we deserve for the reasons mentioned above
    That's the biggest joke I've ever heard
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDiggerBarnes View Post
    Sacking Kenny would be madness. Especially as, Unai Emery aside, there isn't any good manager out there that we could realistically get that would actually improve.

    However, there has to be big questions asked at our general performances this season:

    Why do we become complacent when in the lead?

    We need to remain focused for 90 minutes

    Why can't we finish chances?

    My answer would be that, because we play without a striker effectively when Carroll is not on the pitch, we lack a player with that "poacher" instinct. Carroll isn't any good but at least when plays we play with a striker allowing the likes of Suarez to play the Silva/Mata role rather than have to worry about alsop being the main striker as well.

    Why is the club obsessed with trimming the wage bill despite spending vast amounts

    We have spend 20m at least on Downing, Carroll and Henderson with the idea that they are home-grown and will not be demanding huge wages. Yet I fail to believe that for one minute that they are on "low" wages and the difference between spending more on wages and less on stupid transfer fees is probably not that great. Also wouldn't the club rather have spent a bit more on attracting the likes of Mata, Martinez, Soldado etc rather than what we currently have. Also I will be absolutely baffled if we do not go for Hoillet this summer with him being on a free. Especially, as he is a low risk transfer and if he doesn't work out then we can always sell at a profit. Plus is only 21 (same age as Henderson and probably better on the wing)

    Why is there a perception, both by fans, the club and even the odd pundit, that are simply unlucky?

    We are not unlucky. We are getting what we deserve for the reasons mentioned above
    See, informed debate without calling for the manager to be sacked...See there are still informed fnas out there.
    THIS, absolutely makes

    FFS. Get a grip you kneejerking anti-fans. you make me want to vomit. This absolutely makes sense.

    YNWA
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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkletoesthompson View Post
    Yes, it took me all of five seconds to think of that one. Are you sitting comfortably? then I'll begin...kenny is staying...the long term, local, match going fanbase decided that ages ago.

    YNWA
    Well, this is all that needs to be said to be honest and no amount of angst ridden angry kids will change that, thank fowler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkletoesthompson View Post
    Yes, it took me all of five seconds to think of that one. Are you sitting comfortably? then I'll begin...kenny is staying...the long term, local, match going fanbase decided that ages ago.

    YNWA
    Thankfully that decision will be made by clear heads and calm minds who own the club.
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    Miss those days when we are in CL under Rafa
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    Quote Originally Posted by ardeshir91 View Post
    People keep bringing up this 100 million figure, but that's not our net spend. We also lost Torres, Babel, Meireles etc

    Suarez - 23 Million
    Carroll - 35 Million (lolz)
    Enrique - 6 million
    Charlie Adam - 6 million
    Henderson - 16 million (lolz)
    Downing - 20 million
    Bellamy - 5 million

    Gross Expenditure - 111 million


    Torres - 50 million
    Babel - 6 million
    Meireles - 10 million
    N'Gog - 4 million
    TOTAL - 70 million

    So net spend is 41 million See that's not too bad is it? We're doing pretty decently I might add. 8 points in the last 10 games! almost double digits. Woohoo.
    regardless of what we got for selling players we still spent 100 plus million in 2 windows on very average players!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PePeReina View Post
    Miss those days when we are in CL under Rafa
    Rafa did take over a Liverpool team in 4th though, with the likes of Gerrard, Carragher, Hyypia, Riise, Hamann all still at the peak in their careers and with not as much deadwood either. No radical summer sales were needed just a few were off-loaded

    Kenny took over a team in 12th, with an older more injury prone Carragher and Gerrard and plenty of deadwood that has since been shafted. The only improvements being Reina and possibly Skrtel and Agger (Carra-Hyypia was still special though)

    Big difference?
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    I blame Rafa, if it wasn't for him winning the Champions league, half these members wouldn't be on here
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    I wonder why, most of the people calling for Kenny's head, have been members of these forums for less than 3 - 4 years!

    Makes you wonder, what kind of fans that get attracted to our beautiful club?

    Long live the King, Long live Kenny, yes OP, you can NOT say anything wrong about Kenny, EVER, because he is our clubs biggest legend, and that's the way it will and should stay.

    Kenny deserves the same time as other muppets that have ran our club in the past, you are a sorry bunch of fans, Fergie did not win anything in first 4 -5 seasons! Stop moaning, enjoy watching Kenny back at the club, the day he leaves, we will regret it!

    Can't believe we still have such "fast food" fans, Kenny has been under 1.5 season with the club, and already won a trophy! Loosers!
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    I wouldn't be Kenny's biggest fan , some of his team selections and use of subs leave me stunned at times, but for 80 mins we played really well and then the defense just switched off!

    The third goal was just awful to watch.

    I think we need to give him at least another full season , just like a lot of the new signings ( except Adam , who is just terrible ) before calling for change.

    After all , we're not Chelski !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PePeReina View Post
    Miss those days when we are in CL under Rafa
    Do you miss how we was outplayed by AC Milan for 114 minutes?

    Or how we nearly got battered by West Ham in the Cup final?

    Champions league is not our main priority, our priority is to build a club to challenge for the PL!

    For LFC, the PL is now more important than the CL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5STARZ View Post
    ok guys explain to me why hes the man because for weeks people **** people off for having a bad word about our current manager and after tonight now explain to me
    agree kenny has 2 go. 2 lose a 2 goal lead against a team likely 2be relagated is a disgrace. we have oly won twice in the last ten games a disgrace. kenny has also bought **** players enquire is useless and if anyone can tell me wat henderson gives liverpool please tel me he is a waste. kenny also constantly played carroll and downing when they were playing bad then when they start playing well he drops them. kenny if u really love this club please stand down as manager and liverpool go and get mourinho
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobobest View Post
    agree kenny has 2 go. 2 lose a 2 goal lead against a team likely 2be relagated is a disgrace. we have oly won twice in the last ten games a disgrace. kenny has also bought **** players enquire is useless and if anyone can tell me wat henderson gives liverpool please tel me he is a waste. kenny also constantly played carroll and downing when they were playing bad then when they start playing well he drops them. kenny if u really love this club please stand down as manager and liverpool go and get mourinho
    You cannot even write a sentence, what makes you think you can accurately judge our situation ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davke12345 View Post
    I wouldn't be Kennys biggest fan , some of his team selections and use of subs leave me stunned at times, but for 80 mins we played really well and then the defense just switched off!

    The third goal was just awful to watch.

    I think we need to give him another full season , just like a lot of the new signings ( except Adam , who is just terrible ) before calling for change.

    After all , we're not Chelski !!
    Nice one YNWA- it is taboo to stab your own in the back. Let's see if all these moaning shysters are on here if we get to the FA Cup final. News for you lads, if we get to the final, we DON'T WANT OR NEED YOUR SUPPORT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayvonuk View Post
    You can even write a sentence, what makes you think you can accurately judge our situation ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobobest View Post
    agree kenny has 2 go. 2 lose a 2 goal lead against a team likely 2be relagated is a disgrace. we have oly won twice in the last ten games a disgrace. kenny has also bought **** players enquire is useless and if anyone can tell me wat henderson gives liverpool please tel me he is a waste. kenny also constantly played carroll and downing when they were playing bad then when they start playing well he drops them. kenny if u really love this club please stand down as manager and liverpool go and get mourinho
    it is taboo to stab your own in the back. Let's see if all these moaning shysters are on here if we get to the FA Cup final. News for you lads, if we get to the final, we DON'T WANT OR NEED YOUR SUPPORT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayvonuk View Post
    Say what you want about him as long as its respectfull, ask for his head and you will be deemed clueless in this matter, and rightly so.
    If anyone deserves more time its this man, some of us have actually seen what he can do, and not just on tv.
    Attacking fans in this way is just pathetic, your not superior to anyone just because your a match goer.
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    Sure blame him if you want one, it was his fault we wasn't winning 5-0 up at half time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigermagicjohn View Post
    Do you miss how we was outplayed by AC Milan for 114 minutes?

    Or how we nearly got battered by West Ham in the Cup final?

    Champions league is not our main priority, our priority is to build a club to challenge for the PL!

    For LFC, the PL is now more important than the CL!
    If you qualify for the cheapens league, the revenue from that can help you to challenge for the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayvonuk View Post
    Say what you want about him as long as its respectfull, ask for his head and you will be deemed clueless in this matter, and rightly so.
    If anyone deserves more time its this man, some of us have actually seen what he can do, and not just on tv.
    Some of the comments towards Kenny have been shocking, I would expect these comments to be coming from rival fans,
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    Players have to take this one on the chin. The performance wasn't great but we were up 2-0 with 20 minutes left. Not really his fault we conceded 3 goals in 20 minutes. The players have to know that if you're up 2-1 you just hold the ball as much as possible. Instead we decided to play a 50/50 game and we were punished. The players made some major mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKReds1892 View Post
    Some of the comments towards Kenny have been shocking, I would expect these comments to be coming from rival fans,
    I have been getting messages all night from Manure fans calling Kenny the King and hoping he stays forever. It's strange, while Liverpool fans turn on him opposing fans are loving him. This is like the Rafa and Roy sagas all over again!!
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    I love Dalglish as much as the next supporter. What he has done for the club as player and as a manager makes him the undisputed 'King Kenny'. However the signings did raise eyebrows and still do but I think the even bigger concerns were the injury to Lucas (an instrumental figure in our team and indispensible) and the sale of Meireles (Arguably our best player under Dalglish in the back end of the 10/11 season along with Kuyt and Suarez - seemingly the only player we had in the last eighteen months capable of unlocking tight defences, also seemed to be the only player other than Gerrard capable to giving Carroll the delivery he wants). We have made progress no doubt about it but our form this season has been inconsistent to the point where people do start to ask questions. Winning a trophy is nice especially when we have gone so long without one but mistakes were made about transfer fees. Henderson, Downing and Carroll cost £70m, if you look what Rafa spent his first £70m on and you get Crouch, Alonso, Garcia, Reina, Agger, Sissoko, Kuyt and Mascherano etc. all arguably some of our best ever players since Houllier left. Dalglish is also fastly becoming like Arsene Wenger - blaming external factors for a lack of success such as bad luck or a refereeing decision. He needs to give a big kick up the backside to some of these underperformers.
    I do have faith that Kenny has the ability to change our fortunes and I acknowledge it will take time before we see Liverpool back in regular contention for European places and title challenges but we need to improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKReds1892 View Post
    Some of the comments towards Kenny have been shocking, I would expect these comments to be coming from rival fans,
    Alot of them probably are to be honest m8, i know of at least five mancs that come here just to wind us up, i would bet that there are plenty more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotlips222 View Post
    I have been getting messages all night from Manure fans calling Kenny the King and hoping he stays forever. It's strange, while Liverpool fans turn on him opposing fans are loving him. This is like the Rafa and Roy sagas all over again!!
    Why do you think that is? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by grudge View Post
    Attacking fans in this way is just pathetic, your not superior to anyone just because your a match goer.
    All i am doing is saying i have seen what a team managed by Kenny can, do given time, you assume too much.
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