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Roy Out !
I disagree with the thread more or less entirely and I didn't even read it all but can we please calm down and refrain from insulting and attacking the OP!
I know i wrote a thread about squad cost, with all stats that actually required thought and still not published....mods havin a laugh?Originally Posted by bmcg
There, you said it yourself, and I agree 100%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t44EAsLwGWA
Cheer up fella, you can always get yaself a new wife
Isnt it easier just to get drunk and feel bad about your self for two days instead of a week? One day you feel bad because we lost, the other day cause of the strong hangovers
Or do a Terry and get someone else's!
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To summarise this thread, and merge comments from several others I have read recently:
- Adam, Carroll, Doni, Downing, Henderson, Spearing out - not good enough.
- Carragher, Kuyt, Rodriguez out - too old.
- Agger, Aurelio, Bellamy, Gerrard out - injury prone.
- Johnson, Kelly, Lucas out - just injured.
- Enrique out - inconsistent.
- Reina out - poor form.
Then, maybe, add:
- Suarez out - not a prolific goal scorer.
- Coady, Coates, Eccleston, Flanagan, Robinson, Shelvey, Sterling, Suso, Wilson, Wisdom out - not ready for the Premier League.
So Skrtel's gonna have his work cut out against Newcastle - he'll be the only Liverpool player on the pitch.
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Now, to everyone criticising Kenny... What would you do to turn the season around?
Last edited by whero; 25-3-12 at 03:39.
sometime player just lost their respect to manager after several bad result
look at chelsea, same player, same tactics but better performance after avb been sack
and for kenny, he's just not good enough, surely a legend no doubt but lost his touch in modern football
the best thing is we work hard and bring home FA Cup, then find new manager, then aiming for EPL title not just 4th place
surely, stupid summer signing has cost us badly
Can't compare Kenny to AVB. I think age and experience always makes a big deal. It was tough to respect AVB when he's just a year older than you y'know!
You could also be talking about our management and players.
Too much of a mess to turn it around over night.
Our squad is a complete shambles and we have no backbone what so ever, the very fact we have 2 possibly 3 players who right now would make the match day teams of the top 6 says it all. Kenny has failed miserably and we are in a mess. We need 150million investment just to stay ahead of Swansea/Everton and Fulham's of this world as we are now a mid table team.
The Kenny dream is over and this experiment has failed. In hindsight I wish he never took the full time job as we wouldn't have to argue over why he deserves more time because he is Kenny. He should be judged like any manager.
Has to go down as collectively, the worst group of players ever purchased in the premier league.
At the end of this season, Kenny Dalglish needs to go.
Rafael Benitez needs to return and continue what he started here.
However until then we need to focus on a team that will stay together for next season.
------------------Reina----------------------
---Kelly---Skrtel---Coates---Enrique---
--------Spearing---Henderson-----------
----------------Gerrard----------------------
-------Suarez------------------Downing---
----------------Carroll------------------------
Then at the end of the transfer season, look to have a squad similar to this:
Reina, Doni, Jones.
Johnson, Flanagan.
Skrtel, Kelly.
Agger, Coates.
Enrique, Robinson.
Krasic, Silva.
Gerrard, Henderson.
Lucas, Spearing.
Sahin, Adam.
Downing, Sterling.
Soldado, Suarez, Carroll, Eccleston.
With a first team looking like this:
----------------------Reina--------------------
---Johnson---Skrtel---Agger---Enrique---
-----------------Lucas---Sahin----------------
---Krasic--------------------------Downing---
---------------Suarez---Soldado--------------
That is a team that can compete for Carling, FA, Europa League Cups and Champions League spots at least because of the quality in squad depth, mostly brought about by the academy players that Benitez helped create.
That's how I'd try to do it anyway, what about you?
King Kenny should resign at the end of the season while Commolli should be sacked. Also, the fans deserve an apology from the club for this dire season. 35 million on a player who cant trap the ball and runs around the pitch without any sort of intelligence is criminal. 16 million on the most anonymous midfielder to ever play for LFC. 19 million on a winger who cant beat a man and has zero skill. Our transfers last year is the worst i've witnessed in any football club. Kenny should please resign at the end of the season, its getting embarassing.
Daglish out Benitez in
Starring Daniel Craig..In his mission to infiltrate Anfield and play for his beloved reds.
Kenny should have donated the wasted 70 million to Charity and help people overcome poverty in Places like Africa.
Would have been smack at least on those t**ts labelling us 'Racist'.
I hear he's got an impressive shot on him. A real golden eye for goal. He hits some thunder(ous) balls, and he has a (moon)raker of a pass. The quality of the players around him should go up when they provide his (majesty's) secret service, too.
I'm just trying to find a quantum of solace here. I hear he scares the living daylights out of the opposition.
Yeah, so is Liverpool FC!
Afraid you're right. I've never seen Liverpool in such a bad position in the table. We need HELP!
spending loads of cash on players not worthy of LFC, dont use any tactics or maybe just bad subs, buy all british players who kicked the ball at least once in their life, blame the misfortune and act as a mouse not a manNow, to everyone criticising Kenny... What would you do to turn the season around?
KK is a legend and alwas will be a one.but this..... its better for all that he just leave and stop doing this to all of us (and himself).he is defo not a long term manager for us. in truth-i tought after last season that he will be (what sucker i was)
We have regressed clearly from the start of the season, useless players who are worth less then a third of what they were bought for, and no players will want to come here, what so they can win the Carling Cup and push for the ever elusive Europa League spot?!
I agree with some of your pointers, but replacing Reina with Al-Habsi? what???
The main problem is, weve got rid of Alonso, Mascherano and Torres and not been able to replace them. the pressures on Kenny to turn results around quickly, and then to add some top quality players to our squad. Thats not going to be easy.
It wont be easy, it wouldve helped though had he spent better in the summer. Mata - Henderson (No contest) Ba/Cisse - Carroll (No contest) Parker - Adam (No contest) Meireles/Cole/Babel - Downing (No better). Options were there for a lot less money, yet we made the wrong decision EVERYTIME. Shocking!!
And its in 20/20 hindsight that we can now say this.
Mata had a choice, A champions League club who could provide him with European competition and high wages, or a struggling team, trying to rebuild under a new manager with no European football at all and a limit on wages.....emmm, tough choice.
Ba & Cisses were unknow quantities at the time, who have flourished in the league and in a team in a way noone in their wildest dreams could have predicted. And god knows we have tried a fair few of those long shots over the last decade, some have worked some havent.
The Parker one is a little difficult to defend, I personally would have been happy to have seen him arrive. However the common consensus around was that he had found his level with West Ham after struggling with Chelsea and Newcastle in previous moves. Again another gamble that went against us.
The Meireles/Cole/Babel one is easier to argue. Babel had enough chances to prove his worth to the squad and time after time he failed to produce the goods. Everything that could have gone wrong for Joe did in his only season with us, and although I do feel sorry for the chap that it did go wrong, in the end it was probably best for both that he got that fresh start elsewhere. As far as Meireles, well he had a fine few games at the end of last season, but since FSG didnt want to stand over a verbal discussion with the previous owners with him about increased wages, he wanted to move on. And lets face it, he hasnt been pulling up trees there either.
As Ive said before, its amazing how many people make the right decision from a looking backwards view point, and how many players people think now we should have gone for, but in reality the reasons for not going for them seemed valid when standing in the moment, or indeed how few of those alternative options would actually move to a second, (or maybe even third) level club with no European football and a miniscule chance of getting back into the champions league, let alone challenge for main titles.
Its a pointless exercise battering Kenny and the club over decisions that were made with seemingly valid reasons, but like every transfer throughout football and history, are nothing more than gambles, throws of the dice, and unfortunately for nearly all our managers since Kennys first time round, there have been more flops than hits over a period of 20 years.
I understand the point of this thread, we are for sure around 9 or 10 players away from being were we all expect to be
cheers pal for understanding the point i was trying to make.
it is quite refreshing after all the idiot/moron/muppet slurs aimed at me for starting it.
i was even told to go support my local club by a certain bell end (he knows who he is).
im going to play it safe and avoid blaming this player or that.
at least today we can play the sympathy card and say we should have had 2 penalties and playing against 10 men BUT STILL we didnt deserve anything out of the game because once again we are useless at finding the net.
What worries me now more than our current situation is the calibre of player we can attract. Ive heard we may be interested in bringing Adebayor here but why would he want to, surely he will recieve better offers.
Oh and Shelvey>Adam (sorry i couldnt resist).
Are you one of the people who believed that Carroll was worth £35M? Downing was worth £20M? Henderson worth £16-£20M? What had any of them done to garner such a huge price tag? What had any of them done to deserve a move to LFC? Are you seriously telling me you thought any of these players would help us? I have left Adam out as I remember him at Rangers. He was awful. Will never ever be good enough. The dogs in the street knew this.
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