I love Kenny to bits and there will always be a place for him at LFC but I am one of the people who never wanted Rafa to go. I would welcome him back with open arms and he loves the club and the fans that much he would jump at the chance of a return. I understand everyone's loyalty to Kenny and I'm sure that if Kenny thinks somebody can do a better job he will stand aside.
Where on earth is Bellamy by the way??
Was he injured?
This slide or rut has been precipitated by the disillusioning and frustrating effects of the lack of clinical finishing which has bedevilled us ALL season; confidence and self-belief is a fragile marriage.
It reached its apotheosis in the home game against Arsenal where we should have battered them but their cutting edge was made sharper by the master-class of RVP (oh for a striker like him and we'd be up in 3rd !). This was both simultaneously a symbolic and pivotal moment in our Prem season, and ironically the Gooners; they haven't looked back since and are on a sparkling run of form that's elevated them into a possible 3rd place finish, while we are shambling our way through games with lack lustre performances. Had we won 4-2, as we should have done the whole perspective would have now been different as if we were in a parallel universe.
We must now go on and win at Newcastle, show real character, restore the confidence and self-belief that has been lost since that game.
The players owe that much at least to Kenny, and their own self-esteem as well as the proud traditions the shirt represents on their backs.
i was at the game meself, of course like everyone else, i'm dissapointed with the result.
but let's look at the bigger picture here:
we've already won a cup, in the semi final of the FA cup, 7th in the league (not 7th from bottom), playing better footy, remember kenny's been here ONLY just over a year now and needs/deserves more time.
is giving youngsters a chance, just look at 17 year old raheem sterlings 7 minute cameo, played very well too.
i really can't believe all this knee jerk/microwave generation/ must have it now situation that a lot of folk seem to be into.
i remember a certain manager of a certain club (not a million miles away from our club...unfortunately) when he took over, that very club who before were managed by 'big-ron-from-the-old-swan-' between 1981-1986 won 2 FA cup finals, finished in the top 5 in that period.
now, when old whiskey nose took over in late 1986 he said he was 'gonna buy the league', before there was any transfer windows, he spent money like there was no tomorrow, and nearly 4 years after that, he won his first trophy (just), the FA cup against crystal palace...and boy were they jammy in that match against crystal palace.
oh yeah...they finished 13th in the league that year too but hey, lets just sweep that under the carpet just like sky/bbc/itv/the general media and the line dancers for jesus have done, i mean, it's allright to throw all that crap at us about kenny wasting all that money blah blah blah (never once mentioning the money he got for the likes of meireiles, benayoun, babel, ngog, poulsen and the big greek) but hey, don't mention how much money fergie wasted and was so close to getting the sack, no sireebob.
WE'RE LIVERPOOL FFS!!!! BACK KENNY AND TO HELL WITH THEM ALL!!!!
....one other thing, 2 scots win 1 european champions cup each (1968 and 1999) and get knighthoods, 1 english man wins 3 european champions cups in 5 years (1977,1978 and 1981)....need i say anymore ?
Luck was mentioned when Fergi won his frist trophy - yes that is correct and luck was on his side when he won the trebble etc - but we tend to forget the luck we had under GH when we won the FA CUP - Carling Cup and UFEA Cup (We won the Carling Cup on penalties against Birmingham and we were lucky - We won the FA Cup agaisnt Arsenal and we were completely played off the park for 80 mins or so including a blatant penalty not given to Arsenal and won the UFEA Cup after a sudden death own goal) come to Raf and we won the CL and luck played a major part in it, we won the FA cup and were lucky to win that too - come to Kenny and the Carling Cup - again we had luck on our side but not as much as in previous finals mentioned above - so we need to be a tad careful when we mention luck playing a part of success of other clubs
Mau U are light years ahead of us and will continue to be so until our club gets his house in order - we are starting with our new owners but I am afraid it will be a long time before we will lift the elusive PL trophy - currently I do not think we have a manager or the players who can win us the PL - hence winning domestic cup competitions is out best options
my point is, it took fergie nearly 4 years to win his first trophy (and hey, were'nt they so jammy) whilst finishing 13th in the league (season 1989/90)....can we cut kenny some slack ? when he took over in january of last year we were languishing in the bottom half of the table, give him at least another full season (i'd give him at least 2 but maybe that's just me)....this is kenny's first full season, we've won the carling cup, in the semi final of the FA cup and, as mad as it sounds with 8 games to go, could still mathematically make the 4th champions league place.
another thing, we are missing key players through injury, (lucas, agger, johnson, bellamy and now kelly), it's a squad game i know but any team would miss one of them, never mind five of them at the same time.
all i ask is for you all to be patient, give kenny the time he deserves because it's not just other teams we are up against week in week out, it's the whole british media circus (sky sports, bbc, itv and all those tabloid rag-mags) who are anti liverpool, just look at the suarez situation, there was a total witch hunt against that man, the only thing he was guilty of was playing for liverpool...'nuff said.
You tell 'em Shaftyboy
the parallel is relevant, not to mention that Ferguson had the benefit(or luck) to have a group of young stars come out of their academy at the same time that were the basis of his success for years. He wasn't forced to buy wholesale, and lets face it some of his subseqent buys were expensive disasters just like ours. Lucky for him he didn't have to build his success with SKY repeating every failure to the unthinking masses every ten seconds.
I can't wait for this to be unstickied.
Did anyone else notice how, in the last 2 minutes of the game, when Stevie and Luis and Jonjo were fighting to get possession back for one last push at goal, Andy was literally standing still in the middle, not arsing himself to even make it look like he was fighting. I apologize if this has been brought up, but I saw that and literally started yelling at my TV.
I've watched it again, we weren't nearly as awful as people are making out, below par, legs went when their second went in, our main problem, as it was against QPR was the defence letting 2 soft goals in. That defence needs sorting for Sunday, no Carra would be a start, especially against Newcastle who play a lot of angled balls from deep into their strikers.
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