Henderson is Lucas of 3 years ago... But without the heart!
For a midfielder... I can't remember him ever making a tackle?
Henderson, along with 5-6 others players in our squad are not good enough to bring back Champs League football.
I rate Henderson, he's going to be a good player for us
I've been watching LFC since the late 70's and seen a lot of good midfield players. And some not so good ones. Henderson wouldn't even make the latter category.
Having seen him now having played 40 odd games I still can't figure out what he is all about. He is one of the most ineffective, anonymous players I have ever seen. I can't honestly pinpoint a single quality that qualifies him to play for this club.
This cry that "he's being played out of position, he's not a RM blady blady blah.." is getting so tiresome, and smacks of lazy analysis. Even if its not his best or preferred position surely that doesn't stop him demonstrating the basic skills of a professional footballer. And this "neat and tidy" tag makes me despair. Neat and tidy in terms of keeping and moving the ball is the absolute bare minimum that should be expected of any footballer at this club, or even any club, or even pub, team.
It cannot and must not be held up as some great quality he has.
Look at his contribution over the season. What has he done? What impact has he made? What value has he added to the squad? Nothing, none, zip.
To those who point to his great potential I ask, what do you see, please tell me. He is 21, not 18. He has over a season prem experience with Sunderland. He speaks the language and has no culture issues to contend with. He is a poor passer in anything more than the simple ones, he lacks vision, he lacks touch. he lacks courage (in a mental sense). He is an ineffective tackler, he can't shoot or cross a ball, he creates nothing and is not a goal threat. So what does he or can he do, where is this great potential that some on here speak glowingly of.
He may improve in time or learn how to exert some influence on a game. He may learn to become more positionally astute. He may develop more confidence and belief, and he may develop a better understanding of tactics. But if at 21 he has not mastered the basic skills of the game, and how to execute them consistently as a matter of routine, he is never going to be a real player. Harsh maybe, but nothing he has done at the club can convince me otherwise.
I rated Lucas, not so Henderson.
I think the only person here who was more incredulous and critical of the Henderson signing than me was Fowi - he took a lot of abuse for stating what an average player at best we had just wasted 20 Mil, from a lot of people on this forum. There ought to be a whole bunch of people at his feet right now munching on some humble crow - amazingly there are still a fair few hanging on for dear life that he will someday become an amazing players for us Its just jaw dropping!
He not a tackler, but his pressing and closing down is getting a lot better and a lot tighter, he'll be a press the player get right on top of him and try and nick it off his toe or divert it into the path of a team mate type of midfielder who stays on his feet, a more technical player. The point of pressing/closing down isn't always that you win the ball, it's about pushing a player into an area where you are strong or where he has no options and taking the ball off him through team work, for the time being Henderson performs the role of pressing players and forcing them into areas, he does this well and we have better tacklers he can press them into the direction of.
He's also played some quality through balls this season, more than any of our other midfielders, probably more than our other best 2 put together, in quite a few of goals in the league and the cup he has been the player who has made the "playmakers" pass that has released a forward or full back in space and 1v1 in isolation with their defender, which has presented a chance for that player, or stretched the defence for that player to assist a team mate scoring.
Go back and watch some of the highlights, if you can't see that, you have a very limited view of the game, or have formed an early dislike of Henderson which you refuse to see past.
henderson is just not good at all. The sooner some people got that into their heads the better for their blood pressure because some of us will keep pointing that out
if he turns out good during his time out here, well and good, but I just can't see that happen. I questioned this boy in pre-season and now I no longer question him- he's useless
Seen a stat on Facebook from the LFC Transfer Speculations page, dunno how valid it is, but if it is true, it really just sums up an awful lot about how important Lucas is to us:
"Despite being out of action for 4 months Lucas Leiva has made 68 tackles, more than any other Liverpool player."
Are you actually serious??? You want me to go back and look at 12 minute highlights of games to convince me of Henderson's greatness, or potential greatness!!!! And those "qualities" you refer to are the basic, routine bread and butter qualities of any professional footballer. And then you tell me I have a limited view of the game, and this is the best you can come up with. I ask again very simply....what contribution or impact has Henderson made at LFC over the course of this season?? And please don't insult my intelligence, or even your own, by referring to the odd accurate or incisive pass, or one goal?
Do you mind me asking how old you are, or more discreetly, from what generation are you? I'd have to assume (might be wrong of course) that you are quite young, and would not have seen the quality of midfield players we have had at this club in the past. Jordon Henderson cannot be mentioned in the same breath as the majority of them.
By the way, why would I have a personal dislike of Henderson? I don't have a dislike of any of our players, I don't know Jordan personally so how could I possibly dislike him? I'm sure he's a very nice lad. and he 's got a good attitude and I'm sure he's fine in the dressing room dynamic. The only thing I "dislike" about Henderson is the abject lack of quality and purpose in his performances for this club.
The saving grace for Henderson is that he's playing out of position at the moment. One can hope that's the case anyway.
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