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    Quote Originally Posted by RossMosh View Post
    I'm not a big Maxi guy and I was in the minority last season who said despite his goal scoring record, we needed to improve on what he offered.

    With that said, he gets into positions which push the defense back and makes room for other players. Maxi is very cautious but in comparison to some of our other players, he looks adventurous and creative. He gets in goal scoring positions. He offers end product. I'll take 90 minutes of Maxi over 90 minutes of Downing or Henderson any day of the week. At least with Maxi I know he's going to end up creating or ending up in a TRUE goal scoring opportunity.

    I truly believe we could have saved the £20m and just played Maxi 40 games this season if we wanted to finish in 7th with two good cup runs.
    listen, when Vish is agreeing with you, you know your in the wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    listen, when Vish is agreeing with you, you know your in the wrong!
    I don't agree with Vish. He thinks Maxi would have improved our results. I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    i take it when a player hands in a transfer request... that means he is requesting to be transfered.
    thats a technical aspects. what i am saying is that they could be forced out by going back on a verbal agreement or not increasing salary based on performance which clearly miereles deserved. so the reality is that our FSG is not clearly clean on this issue. they may not want the players to stay not because of footballing reasons but could be because of wage dispute.

    this is a possiblity and that means kenny should not be blamed. the power structure is not clear.

    most importantly recent comments by the king on his demand for top talents coming in is telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossMosh View Post
    I don't agree with Vish. He thinks Maxi would have improved our results. I don't.
    No... Vish agrees with you though. so that means your kind of on the same wave length
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    listen, when Vish is agreeing with you, you know your in the wrong!
    Vish was right about.

    1)Rafa's decline
    2)Carroll
    3)Downing
    4)Henderson
    5)Adam
    6)Kuyts importance
    7)Bellamy signing being positive
    8)enrique +

    I've had a dozen wagers with Ray and won every won of them. 15 goal Carroll? More like 3

    Wrong on Lucas though and double glad for the fella
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmode101 View Post
    thats a technical aspects. what i am saying is that they could be forced out by going back on a verbal agreement or not increasing salary based on performance which clearly miereles deserved. so the reality is that our FSG is not clearly clean on this issue. they may not want the players to stay not because of footballing issue but could be because of wage dispute issue.
    agree, but at the end of the day for whatever reason they still wanted to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VishRed View Post
    Vish was right about.

    1)Rafa's decline
    2)Carroll
    3)Downing
    4)Henderson
    5)Adam
    6)Kuyts importance
    7)Bellamy signing being positive
    8)enrique +

    I've had a dozen wagers with Ray and won every won of them. 15 goal Carroll? More like 3

    Wrong on Lucas though and double glad for the fella
    hahaha go and have a lie down
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    hahaha go and have a lie down
    TheBear you know it.

    Kenny'll be gone within a year max and these four signings will too or simply be substandard.

    Do i want it to happen? No

    Will it happen ? Yes

    Once again though, you can't blame me for being right. Shouldve bought wiser
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    agree, but at the end of the day for whatever reason they still wanted to leave.
    so you agree kenny deserves another season and this transfer he has laid down a marker that he only wants "EXCEPTIONAL" players meaning no more ******* around comolli with what one sided, chance creation stats and all that. either you bring in the big hitters or just admit you are the one who makes the shortlist and just let kenny choose out of that list which is stil the same as not being the real decision maker.

    Those that still think our manager has real power over players are kidding themselves. why does comolli have the "director" of football rank? I can tell you John henry is not a man who seems like a person who don't make idle decisions. As long as they dont sack kenny and let his contract at least run out I will not be **********.

    Its these silly fans who think everything wrong on the pitch is directly related to kenny that gets on my ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    Zamora won his first Cap aged 29... Carroll was 21 HUGE difference
    Francis Jeffers was 22/23 when he got his cap and was/is the all-time leading scorer for England Under-21s with 13 goals, a record he shares with Alan Shearer. Who gives a **** because the dross that has played for that side in the last decade or more has completely devalued call ups and caps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmode101 View Post
    so you agree kenny deserves another season and this transfer he has laid down a marker that he only wants "EXCEPTIONAL" players meaning no more ******* around comolli with stats abd all that. either you bring in the big hitters or just admit you are the one who makes the shortlist and just let kenny choose out of that list which is stil the same as not being the real decision maker.

    Those that still think our manager has real power over players are kidding themselves. why does comolli have the "director" of football rank? I can tell you John henry is not a man who seems like a person who don't make idle decisions. As long as they dont sack kenny and let his contract at least run out I will not be **********.

    Its these silly fans who think everything wrong on the pitch is directly related to kenny that gets on my ****.
    Kenny deserves time, thats for sure. he took over a team that had lost Alonso Mascharano Arbeloa and was losing Torres, add that to an aging Kuyt Gerrard and Carra and you could see the job on his hands. Comolli should either be involved in the business side or the scouting side not both. we should have Kenny and the scouts picking the potential targets and someone doing the negotiating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gingeZizou82 View Post
    Francis Jeffers was 22/23 when he got his cap and was/is the all-time leading scorer for England Under-21s with 13 goals, a record he shares with Alan Shearer. Who gives a **** because the dross that has played for that side in the last decade or more has completely devalued call ups and caps.
    ok so you have picked out 2 players form the last 10 years that are the same age as Carroll who failed to make it after playing for England at a young age... big wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    ok so you have picked out 2 players form the last 10 years that are the same age as Carroll who failed to make it after playing for England at a young age... big wow
    There are more believe me (a 23 year old Michael Ricketts off the top of my head) and even more young players that have started out at smaller clubs, got hyped off the face of the earth and got found out at a bigger club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gingeZizou82 View Post
    There are more believe me (a 23 year old Michael Ricketts off the top of my head) and even more young players that have started out at smaller clubs, got hyped off the face of the earth and got found out at a bigger club.
    I've never said it won't Happen to Carroll, but we also can't say it will either yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    listen, when Vish is agreeing with you, you know your in the wrong!
    Never has a truer statement been written...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    I've never said it won't Happen to Carroll, but we also can't say it will either yet.
    He's been here a year and has given more evidence as to why the old english targetman is a thing of the past rather than provide evidence he's an integral part of this clubs future.

    If its going to work out for him he either becomes a centre half or makes one of the most remarkable transformations in Premier league history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmode101 View Post
    becos you want the manager sacked and not questioned. you question once or twic yes. but you are here all day everyday questioning and then suggesting sacking. thats propaganda. We fans want to come here and discuss football not about power trips.
    Now your talking out of your arse, don't make things up.. I've never said once to sack him so that ****es on your argument..

    The threads on here are literally all about Kenny in whatever way so do you want me to lie and say yes he's doing a great job and he's spent nothing or do you want me to say it how it is that he's not done very well so far, should be doing better..

    Do I expect him next season to be better? Of course and it will be but we are talking about this season.

    If you get kicks by making things up then be my guest but go do it somewhere else
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    Quote Originally Posted by maradona4liverpool View Post
    Why are people tarring everyone who questions stuff about the manager as bashing? You get some idiots bit some genuine people who don't want the manager sacke but still question the policies, just cos you support him as manager doesn't mean you agree with everything else he does nor does it mean you want him sacked
    I'm not, i'm tarring the morons who talk crap and seem always appear after a bad result, course Kenny and his signings can be questioned but the notion of him being sacked is just stupidity by some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VishRed View Post
    TheBear you know it.

    Kenny'll be gone within a year max and these four signings will too or simply be substandard.

    Do i want it to happen? No

    Will it happen ? Yes

    Once again though, you can't blame me for being right. Shouldve bought wiser
    And how exactly do you know this WILL happen, did you see something on your 42'' plasma that i missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    I'm not, i'm tarring the morons who talk crap and seem always appear after a bad result, course Kenny and his signings can be questioned but the notion of him being sacked is just stupidity by some.
    you yourself can do better than throwing insults all over the place,i dont want kenny gone but that doesnt mean i should insult anyone that wants and some over here express their opinions in a disrespectful way but you are doing the same thing by throwing the insults
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    Quote Originally Posted by VishRed View Post
    Vish was right about.

    1)Rafa's decline
    2)Carroll
    3)Downing
    4)Henderson
    5)Adam
    6)Kuyts importance
    7)Bellamy signing being positive
    8)enrique +

    I've had a dozen wagers with Ray and won every won of them. 15 goal Carroll? More like 3

    Wrong on Lucas though and double glad for the fella
    What a bellend, do you ever stop, seriously. Remember your forget the fans going the game idea and play behind closed doors. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by redondemand View Post
    you yourself can do better than throwing insults all over the place,i dont want kenny gone but that doesnt mean i should insult anyone that wants and some over here express their opinions in a disrespectful way but you are doing the same thing by throwing the insults
    Those that disrespect Kenny, i will disrespect them and insult them and don't need you to tell me how to conduct myself pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    I'm not, i'm tarring the morons who talk crap and seem always appear after a bad result, course Kenny and his signings can be questioned but the notion of him being sacked is just stupidity by some.
    im not saying you personally, the jist around here is that if you say something negative, your against him full stop and want him sacked which is not the case.. look at pilgrim, i hope he doesnt mind me using him as an example but hes one of most passionate fans on here, like most of us thinks kenny is the bee's knees but he has his reservations on his choices and what hes done so far but not for one second would i suggest/think that he wants him sacked.. people should be allowed to say things, so long as they do it in a correct manner

    like i say im not pointing the finger at you but its the vibe im getting
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    Those that disrespect Kenny, i will disrespect them and insult them and don't need you to tell me how to conduct myself pal.
    well its your choice and i have nothing more to say on that but one thing i would like to say is that when you do one thing and think its you have no right to say to others not to do the same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by maradona4liverpool View Post
    im not saying you personally, the jist around here is that if you say something negative, your against him full stop and want him sacked which is not the case.. look at pilgrim, i hope he doesnt mind me using him as an example but hes one of most passionate fans on here, like most of us thinks kenny is the bee's knees but he has his reservations on his choices and what hes done so far but not for one second would i suggest/think that he wants him sacked.. people should be allowed to say things, so long as they do it in a correct manner

    like i say im not pointing the finger at you but its the vibe im getting
    Yes but pilgrim like yourself puts his opinions forward with truth. Some on here just make up lies and like to come on after a bad result to stick the knife in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redondemand View Post
    well its your choice and i have nothing more to say on that but one thing i would like to say is that when you do one thing and think its you have no right to say to others not to do the same thing
    Look sorry pal for having a go at you, some on here just really irritate me and sometimes i can get very stupid over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    Yes but pilgrim like yourself puts his opinions forward with truth. Some on here just make up lies and like to come on after a bad result to stick the knife in.
    which is my point of saying that it seems everyone is getting labelled, i understand that defences get put up but if people took a second out and read each one on merit instead of steaming in with this you said something i dont like attitude things could be less volotile if you know what i mean..

    but i agree you do get the odd meffs, its just a case of quickly filtering them out and ignoring them.. look at vish, gets all the attention he craves
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    Look sorry pal for having a go at you, some on here just really irritate me and sometimes i can get very stupid over it.
    I've only been going on this forum since the BBC shut down. What's it like on here when Liverpool are playing well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernRob View Post
    I've only been going on this forum since the BBC shut down. What's it like on here when Liverpool are playing well?
    nobody can remember, its pretty much the same pal,
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    Quote Originally Posted by maradona4liverpool View Post
    which is my point of saying that it seems everyone is getting labelled, i understand that defences get put up but if people took a second out and read each one on merit instead of steaming in with this you said something i dont like attitude things could be less volotile if you know what i mean..

    but i agree you do get the odd meffs, its just a case of quickly filtering them out and ignoring them.. look at vish, gets all the attention he craves
    Some very good and true points.
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