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the club has bigger problems .....
Last edited by Jannno; 2-4-12 at 00:55. Reason: still our player, no need for personal abuse
I cant blame him really, it was a pretty disgusting thing to do by Kenny in all honesty. He wasnt even playing badly, there were many more players that should have gone off before him- yet Kenny took him off allowing him to get a roasting by their fans.
It was wrong. But theyll forget about it tomorrow.
oh shut the **** up, at least he is showing some passion.
Il take kuyt any day of a the week and a month of sundays after todays "performance"Originally Posted by Andyfagan
Well I don't think it was the right substitution but on the bright side Andy may realise what his beloved fans now think abt him and he can finally move on. You don't give a **** when you have other option available or can go back. You start working your ass off when you have no choice.
In all honesty i hadnt even thought about this angle, and its something worth thinking about.
I don't condone bad words but as for him heading down the tunnel I agree with his action as he was booed throughout the game and the Geordie's were presented with a grand opportunity to ridicule him when he was taken off unnecessarily. I cant imagine what he would have faced going back to sit on the bench. A little common sense and understanding is necessary at times.
Well that's quite a hole we've dug ourselves now.
Will be interesting to see how we come out of this.
If we don't, could be a premature exit for Kenny. Will be a sad day but if he can't fix it then someone else has to.
I'm ready for Rafa if there's no mend in sight.
Wow player annoyed at getting subbed shock horror.
Who would have thought it Eh !!!
No thanks with the Rafa recommendation. Never a wise move to go back to your past.
Need a manager who will belt these ******
I felt sorry for Carroll, he got an awful reception and was booed non-stop. It must have been tough for him being treated like that by his former fans when he still loves that club. Still, he shouldn't be spitting his dummy like a spoiled brat with quite such enthusiasm. He's supposed to be a professional, not a demented kid.
I am pro Kenny but Carroll was dead right to give him an earful.
Kenny's treatment of andy has been terrible
Couple questions for the folks in tbis thread who have suggested Rafa would be an option should Kenny go:
1) do you realize we finished well out of fourth under Rafa in 2010 and people were saying rafa had lost the players, etc?
2) do you realize how ********** off our owners were with the monies rafa had tied up in dead wood? They talked about it repeatedly in the press.
Don't get me wrong, I love Rafa and miss the magic he spun on European nights, but I can't see these owners ever bringing him back IF they get to the point of cutting Kenny loose.
Odd how hes been defended and its being put down yo "passion" and "desire" theres many a player who if they ever did this would no doubt be getting slated by the same people defending Carroll now
We finished 7th because we had Ngog up top
Wonder how people would have reacted if Babel or Jovanovic did it. Carroll acted like a spoiled child by leaving the pitch, as far as I'm concerned.
Rafa bought him. If Kenny steps down I want no one else but Mourinho.
Mourinho is a pipe dream. never gonna happen, City will sack mancini in the summer so they will try to get him, not to mention chavski as well.
Forget Rafa and Jose.
Neither will be our next manager.
I agree. I felt bad for the lad and could understand him being upset, but he behaved like a brat. As for having a go at Kenny - if that did actually happen - it's plain wrong.
Whether or not this is the case, it was the wrong decision to bring him off. he was not one of our worst players today, not by a long way, and it was a humiliating exit for him.
It really makes you wonder how these people got in the position in our society to get paid so much money.
That's not an excuse for him to throw a tantrum though.
No, it's not. Not excusing it as such, just saying it was understandable, and was completely the wrong decision to sub him. However, it is a step too far if he's swearing at Kenny like reported.
Because football reporters pride themselves on accuracy and facts.
Well, it doesn't seem unlikely that he was cursing while being subbed, whether it was at Kenny, I don't know.
I could be wrong, but he strikes me as a player who has never really had to work at his trade.
His anger at other players, his frequent moaning on the field...it just seems like he expects it to be like his first 19 or so matches last season with Newcastle, where he was the local lad making good, and the next great England CF.
Teams may very well have seen enough to know how to play him, and now he has to work to grow his skill set and sharpen his current set.
I don't know if he's got it in him. He certainly needs to improve on many aspects of his play--touch, quickness, reading of the game, movement.
We can't really wait another year or two from him to come good...not unless he is consigned to the bench or a seat in the stands while other, more effective strikers (yet to be purchased) are plying their trade with us.
I don't think it matters if we sell him and he comes good for someone else. The only question is whether he is a reasonable bet to become a good player for us. Right now, it's looking pretty unlikely, at least to me.
Hence the 'if' I wrote in the bit you quoted
Oh he definately did curse, i remember it, but when i as watching it he wasnt looking anywhere near the bench, and his words can easily be attributed to the crowd as much as anything else.
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