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    when you see Blackburn signing Yakubu for nowt..and he gets 14 goals this season, and newcastle spend 9 millon on cisse and he bangs in 7 or 8 goals in 3 months...you then look at Carroll costing 35m and see where the real issues lie at the club. Who is actually advising KD these players are worth it? How did we miss out on players like Cisse? was it because he was not high profile enough....or unproven in premiership or maybe because he was not Young and British?
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    I think Comolli is in charge of all the scouts. He's been dreadful so far.
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    Coms job aint it?

    Its shocking, even some on here including myself wanted us to be in for cisse, when your fans are picking better players then your scouts for a quarter of the price something must be wrong. Big time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ad-Rock View Post
    I think Comolli is in charge of all the scouts. He's been dreadful so far.
    was not to sure if he was him or not. I mean i presume KD makes the final decision...or does he? If comolli wants to do something he needs to find KD another trio like Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge...and thats not Carroll, Henderson and Downing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DovahKuyt View Post
    Coms job aint it?

    Its shocking, even some on here including myself wanted us to be in for cisse, when your fans are picking better players then your scouts for a quarter of the price something must be wrong. Big time.
    yeah i agree...even Yakubu would have done a job for us...but i think comolli would never have signed a 29yr old on a free transfer...even though he has proven he can put the ball in the net at least 15 times a season. missing out on cisse was a bad mistake!
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    Newcastle was lucky with Cisse simply because Demba Ba was there already.
    They are close friend and play on the same national team.
    If Demba Ba was playing with us, we would've had Cisse as well as Newcastle did
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    Commoli said its 50/50 in a recent interview. Kenny in his updated book said Commoli came up to him and said hey what about Andy carrol Kenny said sure if you think you can get him. Remember Kenny was just caretaker manager at this point, personally I think the carrol fee is 100 percent Commoli as is Suarez I don't believe Kenny at that time had as much input, why would he, he was only supposed to be here short term and Commoli was employed by the owners with signings as part of his remit.

    Not to excuse any of Kenny's mistakes either though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-SEE-red-PEOPLE View Post
    Commoli said its 50/50 in a recent interview. Kenny in his updated book said Commoli came up to him and said hey what about Andy carrol Kenny said sure if you think you can get him. Remember Kenny was just caretaker manager at this point, personally I think the carrol fee is 100 percent Commoli as is Suarez I don't believe Kenny at that time had as much input, why would he, he was only supposed to be here short term and Commoli was employed by the owners with signings as part of his remit.

    Not to excuse any of Kenny's mistakes either though.
    yeah i heard the interview as well and was wondering if it was just a case of Commoli being diplomatic towards KD. All i know is someone has to take the hit for spending that kind of money with not much back in terms of return...although the FA cup I suppose will sooth things a little...( a domestic cup double in first season back is good). 35m on carroll, 16m on hendo, 20m+ on downing and 8m on adam. They are all a bit high if you ask me! Perhaps the Hendo fee is okay if he was given time in his best position. Rafa wasted 2 seasons of Gerrard by playing him on the right...i hope KD does not do the same with Hendo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by laird2707 View Post
    yeah i heard the interview as well and was wondering if it was just a case of Commoli being diplomatic towards KD. All i know is someone has to take the hit for spending that kind of money with not much back in terms of return...although the FA cup I suppose will sooth things a little...( a domestic cup double in first season back is good). 35m on carroll, 16m on hendo, 20m+ on downing and 8m on adam. They are all a bit high if you ask me! Perhaps the Hendo fee is okay if he was given time in his best position. Rafa wasted 2 seasons of Gerrard by playing him on the right...i hope KD does not do the same with Hendo!
    It's safe to say Henderson is definitely Kenny's buy. He's one of the very few players he named checked in his book before he managed us again. He sees something in him that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-SEE-red-PEOPLE View Post
    It's safe to say Henderson is definitely Kenny's buy. He's one of the very few players he named checked in his book before he managed us again. He sees something in him that's for sure.
    So do I to be honest.
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    I think gerrard is best played on the right too if I'm honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laird2707 View Post
    yeah i heard the interview as well and was wondering if it was just a case of Commoli being diplomatic towards KD. All i know is someone has to take the hit for spending that kind of money with not much back in terms of return...although the FA cup I suppose will sooth things a little...( a domestic cup double in first season back is good). 35m on carroll, 16m on hendo, 20m+ on downing and 8m on adam. They are all a bit high if you ask me! Perhaps the Hendo fee is okay if he was given time in his best position. Rafa wasted 2 seasons of Gerrard by playing him on the right...i hope KD does not do the same with Hendo!
    I remember Gerrard scoring 20+ goals from the right, which is a darn sight more than where he's been playing this season (in his favourite CM role), I don't think it was a waste at all, and Rafa knew that Gerrard wasn't great in the centre, hence the role on the right and also later on behind Torres (at the time possibly the best partnership in world football). Apart from 20 minutes against Newcastle at Anfield and the derby against the bitters, Gerrard has had a very ordinary season, injuries and poor players around him have also contributed to this but I don't believe playing him CM gets the best out of him (even if he was to disagree)
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-SEE-red-PEOPLE View Post
    I think gerrard is best played on the right too if I'm honest.
    Nah behind a striker.

    ------------Suarez------------
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanosdelgardo View Post
    Nah behind a striker.

    ------------Suarez------------
    Bellamy - Gerrard - Downing
    We would almost certainly need Lucas back to give gerrard that freedom, by then I hope to Christ we have signed a proper right winger for once in my life. Gerrard deserves more leeway than most but I do think he needs to pull his finger out of his arse, it may be unfair to say it but part of me wonders if his eye is on the euros which is probably his last big tournament. Aside from everton and his first game back he has been massively out of sorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-SEE-red-PEOPLE View Post
    We would almost certainly need Lucas back to give gerrard that freedom, by then I hope to Christ we have signed a proper right winger for once in my life. Gerrard deserves more leeway than most but I do think he needs to pull his finger out of his arse, it may be unfair to say it but part of me wonders if his eye is on the euros which is probably his last big tournament. Aside from everton and his first game back he has been massively out of sorts.
    yeah i have to agree..Gerrard is better behind the striker...but approaching 32 will he be able to do it for much longer? Perhaps CM will be the role KD sees for him in the 'twilight years'..but will that then restrict Hendo to fulfilling his potential? Was it Souness who came into the club and broke the whole team up...got rid of the big names and allowed the future, younger, players to prosper?? I am not suggesting we move SG on....but we need to allow players like Hendo, Coates and even Sterling to start making their mark on the first team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laird2707 View Post
    when you see Blackburn signing Yakubu for nowt..and he gets 14 goals this season, and newcastle spend 9 millon on cisse and he bangs in 7 or 8 goals in 3 months...you then look at Carroll costing 35m and see where the real issues lie at the club. Who is actually advising KD these players are worth it? How did we miss out on players like Cisse? was it because he was not high profile enough....or unproven in premiership or maybe because he was not Young and British?
    I think it might have been Fergie yesterday, lets be honest despite the fact we could have had a Penalty, we were awful in the second half, totally lacking in imagination and fire, one man up front again with the gang running up in support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DovahKuyt View Post
    Coms job aint it?

    Its shocking, even some on here including myself wanted us to be in for cisse, when your fans are picking better players then your scouts for a quarter of the price something must be wrong. Big time.
    Don't give yourself too much credit. I saw plenty of people demanding Lukaku over th summer. Pretty sure I never saw Ba or Yakubu mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laird2707 View Post
    when you see Blackburn signing Yakubu for nowt..and he gets 14 goals this season, and newcastle spend 9 millon on cisse and he bangs in 7 or 8 goals in 3 months...you then look at Carroll costing 35m and see where the real issues lie at the club. Who is actually advising KD these players are worth it? How did we miss out on players like Cisse? was it because he was not high profile enough....or unproven in premiership or maybe because he was not Young and British?


    Saha?
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    saha is another one....injury prone but when he does make it onto the match he seems to score! or david healy i hear is available for nothing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by laird2707 View Post
    yeah i heard the interview as well and was wondering if it was just a case of Commoli being diplomatic towards KD. All i know is someone has to take the hit for spending that kind of money with not much back in terms of return...although the FA cup I suppose will sooth things a little...( a domestic cup double in first season back is good). 35m on carroll, 16m on hendo, 20m+ on downing and 8m on adam. They are all a bit high if you ask me! Perhaps the Hendo fee is okay if he was given time in his best position. Rafa wasted 2 seasons of Gerrard by playing him on the right...i hope KD does not do the same with Hendo!
    We paid over the odds for Carroll due to the situation that Torres left us in. Given Torres's form prior to leaving, we still just about got the better part of the deal and that's the only thing that maintains my faith in Carroll. Had we gone out with £35m of fresh money then he would clearly qualify as one of the greatest wastes of money ever. Henderson is a long-term project but I am not convinced that we needed to spend £16m on that type of player last summer. Adam at £8m is ok for a squad player but he clearly is not capable of taking the step up to being a regular in CM. Downing at £20m needed to hit the ground running, provide width and, specifically, decent service to Carroll. For that reason he is probably the worst signing of the lot and his minimal impact has only served to accentuate Carroll's struggles. Having said all that, I cannot see any of them leaving in the summer but they are likely to become some of the most expensive squad players in the league as in truth that is all they are capable of being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laird2707 View Post
    saha is another one....injury prone but when he does make it onto the match he seems to score! or david healy i hear is available for nothing!


    Sign Michael Owen too!
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    i would take the hit and sell downing and adam and just see what we can get for them and then haul comolli in to the office and give him a final warning! although carroll has been rubbish, we all know what he can do when he has striker beside him that can draw defenders away, and 2 wingers who can get the ball over someone who is standing 12 yards away! Neither carroll, or adam have been able to put the ball onto his head this season, and Hendo is not a RM or RW he is a CM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede View Post
    Sign Michael Owen too!
    Fergie would never sell him back to us!
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    Comolli played the leading role in bringing in Carroll and Suarez


    Article from Daily Post a year or so ago...


    Comolli was appointed as Director of Football Strategy back in November 2010, in one of Henry's first major acts following his purchase of the club from former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

    "I am also delighted to announce the promotion of Damien Comolli to Director of Football," added Henry.

    "In the short time that Damien has been at the Club, he has impressed us greatly with his knowledge of the sport, his work ethic and his incisive intelligence.

    "He is a clear thinker and understands exactly what is needed to form a long-term, consistent approach with the philosophy we all share here. He has a track record of identifying young talent and has already made significant contributions to the first team and academy."


    "Damien played a leading role in our January transfer window activity with the recruitment of Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll. These two additions will play a significant role in the future of the Club

    "All of us at Liverpool Football Club who have been working on a day-to-day basis with Damien believe he will be a key contributor for many, many years here as we build a football operation second to none.

    Werner added: "Damien has already demonstrated a thorough understanding of what a modern football Club needs to succeed in an ever more competitive environment. He has made a tremendous contribution to our scouting, recruitment and player development so far. This promotion will see him assume extra responsibilities including overseeing areas such as performance analysis, medical provision, and team administration."

    Henry believes the appointments signify a significant step for the club, as they look to create a structure that will enable them to return to the very top of English football.

    He added: "With these key appointments today, the future of Liverpool Football Club is in very good hands. Tom and I are extraordinarily excited to be working with Ian and Damien as we do the things that must be done to move the club forward in the 21st century."



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    Dunno I think the signings we got last summer were mainly kds, comolli likes fast attacking players with flair.
    Suarez may well have been one of comollis choices.
    Wouldn't be surprised if they had agreed to get in a few players to bolster the squad last summer then get a few of the flair players of comollis list, just unfortunately the ones we have got in have let Kenny down.
    And I do believe it's that more than Kenny himself hes put faith into these players given them a shot at the big time and each one of them has let him down, but being the manager and the one who's signed them he has to take it on the chin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturalskill View Post
    Comolli played the leading role in bringing in Carroll and Suarez


    Article from Daily Post a year or so ago...


    Comolli was appointed as Director of Football Strategy back in November 2010, in one of Henry's first major acts following his purchase of the club from former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

    "I am also delighted to announce the promotion of Damien Comolli to Director of Football," added Henry.

    "In the short time that Damien has been at the Club, he has impressed us greatly with his knowledge of the sport, his work ethic and his incisive intelligence.

    "He is a clear thinker and understands exactly what is needed to form a long-term, consistent approach with the philosophy we all share here. He has a track record of identifying young talent and has already made significant contributions to the first team and academy."


    "Damien played a leading role in our January transfer window activity with the recruitment of Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll. These two additions will play a significant role in the future of the Club

    "All of us at Liverpool Football Club who have been working on a day-to-day basis with Damien believe he will be a key contributor for many, many years here as we build a football operation second to none.

    Werner added: "Damien has already demonstrated a thorough understanding of what a modern football Club needs to succeed in an ever more competitive environment. He has made a tremendous contribution to our scouting, recruitment and player development so far. This promotion will see him assume extra responsibilities including overseeing areas such as performance analysis, medical provision, and team administration."

    Henry believes the appointments signify a significant step for the club, as they look to create a structure that will enable them to return to the very top of English football.

    He added: "With these key appointments today, the future of Liverpool Football Club is in very good hands. Tom and I are extraordinarily excited to be working with Ian and Damien as we do the things that must be done to move the club forward in the 21st century."



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    Surprised that the owners are not here to have a crisis meeting with the team.
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    A midfield of Gerrard, Meireles, Lucas, Cabaye and Parker would have seen us do major damage this season and would have cost less than Henderson alone.

    Solid BACK-UP defenders like Dann, Alex, Upson all passed us by too leaving us completely exposed after Agger's inevitable injury.
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    Most of those players could of gone either way. Newcastle have had a little bit of luck. Ba failed a medical at Stoke I think didnt he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laird2707 View Post
    Fergie would never sell him back to us!


    He's a free agent in the summer.
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