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    He stumbled?! Hahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thispilgrim View Post
    It's like most conspiracy theories, complete utter ****, thought up by sad middles aged virgins.
    what a ridiculous conspiracy theory. me and my middle aged mates never thought up nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red242 View Post
    He's just ****. we should just cut our losses and sell him in the summer.
    Agreed, bad for the squad both tactically and for morale within the team.
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    IMO it seems quite simple. He did it to avoid taking on the chance which when you're low on confidence (and lets face it crap with his right foot) becomes quite miss-able. Taking the easy way out and winning the pen meant he wouldn't have to risk messing it up - if Suarez had been up there with him he'd have squared it to him rather than shoot most likely.

    But, Krul didn't come steaming in and his dive was blatant so the whole thing backfired.

    35m pounds worth of ****- house
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    IMO it seems quite simple. He did it to avoid taking on the chance which when you're low on confidence (and lets face it crap with his right foot) becomes quite miss-able. Taking the easy way out and winning the pen meant he wouldn't have to risk messing it up - if Suarez had been up there with him he'd have squared it to him rather than shoot most likely.

    But, Krul didn't come steaming in and his dive was blatant so the whole thing backfired.

    35m pounds worth of ****- house
    Yeah this makes more sense to me than the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    IMO it seems quite simple. He did it to avoid taking on the chance which when you're low on confidence (and lets face it crap with his right foot) becomes quite miss-able. Taking the easy way out and winning the pen meant he wouldn't have to risk messing it up - if Suarez had been up there with him he'd have squared it to him rather than shoot most likely.

    But, Krul didn't come steaming in and his dive was blatant so the whole thing backfired.

    35m pounds worth of ****- house
    Then he should have his contract terminated. I'm left footed and I could put that chance away with my right. He gets 80000 pounds a WEEK to play football and he can't kick it with his right foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    IMO it seems quite simple. He did it to avoid taking on the chance which when you're low on confidence (and lets face it crap with his right foot) becomes quite miss-able. Taking the easy way out and winning the pen meant he wouldn't have to risk messing it up - if Suarez had been up there with him he'd have squared it to him rather than shoot most likely.

    But, Krul didn't come steaming in and his dive was blatant so the whole thing backfired.

    35m pounds worth of ****- house

    He was hardly taking on a chance, it was an open goal. He could've slotted it in no problem, dead centre, around the keeper, no defender on the line. The man might be a complete donkey, but he's still capable of scoring in an open goal, regardless of which foot he has to use
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    Quote Originally Posted by holywood View Post
    But he made the split-second decision to dive against his hometown team to win a penalty and get their 'keeper sent off???
    This. He made a decision to dive in order to try and win a pen and get their keeper sent off. Nothing to do with who we were playing against. He is a red and showed that yesterday when he was so upset with being taken off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidlandRed8 View Post
    Then he should have his contract terminated. I'm left footed and I could put that chance away with my right. He gets 80000 pounds a WEEK to play football and he can't kick it with his right foot.
    Nothing to do with ability but more of a mental decision to go down. He expected contact, none came, he went down, dive - free out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOnTheTyne View Post
    He was hardly taking on a chance, it was an open goal. He could've slotted it in no problem, dead centre, around the keeper, no defender on the line. The man might be a complete donkey, but he's still capable of scoring in an open goal, regardless of which foot he has to use
    That's not what i saw. A premiership striker should have still slotted it in, but he was running across the penalty box, not through it face to goal, at pace with a defender (Jonas) coming coming in from behind who could maybe have tackled him had he not taken it quickly and then Perch heading back to goal to try and cover. He wouldn't have had enough time to stop look up and shoot, it was a case of taking past Krul and placing it with his right foot in a fluid movement

    I'm not defending how bad it was - i just think its more likely he took the dive to save himself having to take the chance himself rather than a dive so he wouldn't score against his old club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holywood View Post
    But he made the split-second decision to dive against his hometown team to win a penalty and get their 'keeper sent off???
    Well it was either that or tap it into an empty net, Im sure Newcastle would fancy their chances from our poor penalty record this season.
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    It fell onto his right foot which is no more use than an ashtray on a motorcycle. He decided to go down and he couldn't even do that convincingly.

    There was more chance of him getting sent off yesterday than scoring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOnTheTyne View Post
    As some of you may know, I'm a Geordie. I had a ticket for the game yesterday but due to work reasons couldn't make it, but thats another story.

    So I was on my break at work yesterday, and we got the game up on Sky TV on my mates iPhone and watched the first half.

    As we watched the dive happen, the 3 toon fans around me said the same thing..

    Andy Carroll never wanted to score, he went for the penalty so Gerrard would take it and score. And he wouldn't have to get a goal against Newcastle.

    When I finished work, this was said to me more and more, from nearly every toon fan I spoke to. It's almost common knowledge round here.

    What do you think ? I think it makes perfect sense, it's well known he was forced out, he was a boyhood toon fan, he'd already confirmed he wouldnt celebrate..

    Just a theory, but a one thats been gleefully jumped on up here.
    I think he was just scared he would do a Torres and miss an empty net. He was on his wrong foot and if you look carefully the touch of the ball pass the keeper was quite heavy and was going to be blocked by the defender.

    And even if he ******* stumbled, which is unlikely, that's still his fault and doesn't absolve him from blame - he shouldn't be "losing his balance" in such a crucial situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOnTheTyne View Post
    He was hardly taking on a chance, it was an open goal. He could've slotted it in no problem, dead centre, around the keeper, no defender on the line. The man might be a complete donkey, but he's still capable of scoring in an open goal, regardless of which foot he has to use
    Maybe he was scared he would do a Torres and miss..
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    Quote Originally Posted by xRedmanLFCx View Post
    This. He made a decision to dive in order to try and win a pen and get their keeper sent off. Nothing to do with who we were playing against. He is a red and showed that yesterday when he was so upset with being taken off.
    I was being facetious as in my mind, diving to win a penalty is worse than scoring a good goal against his boyhood club.

    He was probably upset at his performance and the abuse he received, perhaps he was expecting a hero's welcome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by holywood View Post
    I was being facetious as in my mind, diving to win a penalty is worse than scoring a good goal against his boyhood club.

    He was probably upset at his performance and the abuse he received, perhaps he was expecting a hero's welcome?
    I doubt he was expecting a hero's welcome. But being subbed off and being booed by all your old fans is not particularly nice, especially considering he really embarrassed himself earlier that match.
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    I have no time for conspiracies but in this case i honestly thibk sone other forces were at work. Its unforgivable for a player to fall over like that. His show of amger at the end was also out if character.
    Either way his goose is cooked at Anfield. Waste of time effort amd money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holywood View Post
    Yesterday can't be explained, justified or defended. He was so very poor.

    I know that the 4-3-3 system doesn't particularly suit him, but that performance was embarrassing. As I said on 1st February 2011, Carroll will end up back at Newcastle for £15m bu summer 2012.
    You though his whole performance was embarrassing or his dive?

    As bad as we werei thought he was easily our mom and I was at the game.. He was only one that looked bothered
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    Quote Originally Posted by maradona4liverpool View Post
    You though his whole performance was embarrassing or his dive?

    As bad as we werei thought he was easily our mom and I was at the game.. He was only one that looked bothered
    For the first 20 minutes or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maradona4liverpool View Post
    You though his whole performance was embarrassing or his dive?

    As bad as we werei thought he was easily our mom and I was at the game.. He was only one that looked bothered
    I'd say Shelvey was comfortably our man of the match despite drifting out of the game second half.

    Carroll was MOTM for the first 15 minutes, after that he was useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gingeZizou82 View Post
    For the first 20 minutes or so.
    That's 20 mins more than rest of squad apart from shelvey.. Who for some reason nearly gifted them a goal with his inexperience or stupidity whichever view you want to take
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    Whatever reason he had for deciding to go down instead of try and score there, they're all equally worth getting rid. I don't want a striker who doesn't try and score, whatever the reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayvonuk View Post
    Toon fans are filth, i dont care what they think.
    Theyre a better team than us atm and they most certainly have better scouts..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rederman View Post
    Theyre a better team than us atm and they most certainly have better scouts..
    I don't think it's anything to do with scouts regarding us.. We were lazy and tried buying British, we were linked with cisse long ago, we didnt use any scouting system in the past few windows and I don't think it had anything to do with rubbish scouts
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    Quote Originally Posted by rederman View Post
    Theyre a better team than us atm and they most certainly have better scouts..
    Their players are under a lot less pressure. If Cisse, Ba & co came to Liverpool they wouldn't play as well as they do for Newcastle. And if Downing, Henderson, Carroll etc went to Newcastle they would be playing a lot better
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    He should of hit it with the outside of his left foot, early as poss, over the keeper..... Well thats what a Van Persie would have done. Heck even i could of done it.

    It looked to me asif soon as he took it away from Krul, onto his right foot, he didnt want to attempt it with his right incase he fell over/missed and had the staidum laughing at him. Thats why he proceeded to dive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maradona4liverpool View Post
    That's 20 mins more than rest of squad apart from shelvey.. Who for some reason nearly gifted them a goal with his inexperience or stupidity whichever view you want to take
    Its a shame he only put the effort in for Andy Carroll FC yesterday however brief, and not Liverpool FC.
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    I love how freely people try to give Carroll MOTM nods these days ...

    He must have about 5-6 now despite being mostly horrific all season ...

    The comedy continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOnTheTyne View Post
    As some of you may know, I'm a Geordie. I had a ticket for the game yesterday but due to work reasons couldn't make it, but thats another story.

    So I was on my break at work yesterday, and we got the game up on Sky TV on my mates iPhone and watched the first half.

    As we watched the dive happen, the 3 toon fans around me said the same thing..

    Andy Carroll never wanted to score, he went for the penalty so Gerrard would take it and score. And he wouldn't have to get a goal against Newcastle.

    When I finished work, this was said to me more and more, from nearly every toon fan I spoke to. It's almost common knowledge round here.

    What do you think ? I think it makes perfect sense, it's well known he was forced out, he was a boyhood toon fan, he'd already confirmed he wouldnt celebrate..

    Just a theory, but a one thats been gleefully jumped on up here.
    I don't agree, for me he completely lost his bottle in front of goal and try to take the easy way out of the situation.
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    I think he didn't appeal for a pen because he realised how awful his dive was.
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