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    Sorry to post a twitter rumour but there was one going round yesterday from @tonyevanstimes that FSG cannot raise the money for the building of a new stadium. Does anyone have any decent info on what was supposed to have been said ??
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    No idea.

    But I suspect that we won't see a new stadium for a long time.

    Personally, I think they should renovate Anfield. Desperately needs it and would be a much more affordable option.
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    It is alot of money so I wouldn't be surprised, I would guess they were thinking invest in the team would bring CL money to help fund the stadium. Although I'd love a new stadium I'd hate us to be crippled with debt to get one.
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    Would be no surprise. They made no promises. But I find it highly frustrating we been searching for owners that could fund a new ground for 10 years. And have failed. People should hang their heads in shame. Waste of money and time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thispilgrim View Post
    Would be no surprise. They made no promises. But I find it highly frustrating we been searching for owners that could fund a new ground for 10 years. And have failed. People should hang their heads in shame. Waste of money and time.
    Agree. I just wish that we'd built a new stadium in the 1990's when it would have been so much cheaper.

    Starting to think we've just missed our chance now.

    Redevelop Anfield and be done with it for 20 years.
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    he also says he can't see anfield being extended either
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    Quote Originally Posted by changeaname View Post
    he also says he can't see anfield being extended either
    Well if thats the case we have defo been lied to as Broughton did say in one of his last tv interviews that we would defo have a new stadium or anfield upgraded.

    End of the day the team can be invested in all it wants but unless we get a new stadium we are stuffed long term. We will defo not be able to compete with the teams with larger stadiums. This is just fact.
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    the 'rumour' is kind of what i predicted. we looked at the arsenal Model and wanted to copy them. Unfortunately markets have changed dramaticly since Arsenal buit there stadium and its much harder to gain long term finance for projects like this.

    the 'rumor' is we have all the naming rights in place, have all the figure needed to get sufficient finance against our season tickets... but no one is willing to lend us the money.

    so without this we cant start to build... UNLESS... the put their own money in
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    Thanks for the update
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    Did they ever promise one, or was it "We will look into the possibilities of a new stadium or rebuilding anfield"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Did they ever promise one, or was it "We will look into the possibilities of a new stadium or rebuilding anfield"
    I think one of the main points of the take over is they agreed to build a new stadium...BUT... wouldn't put a time scale on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    I think one of the main points of the take over is they agreed to build a new stadium...BUT... wouldn't put a time scale on it.
    American owners who can't afford to build a new stadium. Well at least there's consistency
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    Quote Originally Posted by j4130 View Post
    It is alot of money so I wouldn't be surprised, I would guess they were thinking invest in the team would bring CL money to help fund the stadium. Although I'd love a new stadium I'd hate us to be crippled with debt to get one.
    so true
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    i don't like tony evans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    American owners who can't afford to build a new stadium. Well at least there's consistency
    It is not that they can' afford it; no-one will lend the money at reasonable rates. I doubt even Abrahamovic or Sheikh Mansoor could get hold of the £200+ mill we need with any ease. They would go to the banks aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOB View Post
    It is not that they can' afford it; no-one will lend the money at reasonable rates. I doubt even Abrahamovic or Sheikh Mansoor could get hold of the £200+ mill we need with any ease. They would go to the banks aswell.
    They would use online banking.

    200 million pounds is chicken change to the Mansoor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOB View Post
    It is not that they can' afford it; no-one will lend the money at reasonable rates. I doubt even Abrahamovic or Sheikh Mansoor could get hold of the £200+ mill we need with any ease. They would go to the banks aswell.
    Henry and FSG don't have anywhere near the finance of Abramovich or Mansoor - they're not comparable.

    My comment was only half serious anyway. But to be honest the 'we're taking our time to make sure we choose the right option' line is starting to wear thin. How long exactly does it take to make a good decision? 2 years, more?

    If the answer is, we cannot afford in this current economic climate, or we need more on field success to justify, then fine - that's a solid answer to work with. But the radio silence is deafening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    American owners who can't afford to build a new stadium. Well at least there's consistency
    if it wasnt for these American owners we may have no club... dont forget that
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    if it wasnt for these American owners we may have no club... dont forget that
    Or worse. We could have had Steve Morgan running it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear83 View Post
    if it wasnt for these American owners we may have no club... dont forget that
    lighten up Bear and read my next post while you're at it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesal View Post
    Or worse. We could have had Steve Morgan running it!
    haha
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    the stadium issue is a complicated one, made infinately worse by G&H back then, Fenway will have an awful lot of work to do to sort this out, funding alone is tricky but the whole issue is tricky full stop....but regardless, a journo on Twitter is not something I can ever take seriously

    I'm sure the club and the owners will update fans with something meaningful when there is something meaninful to be said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Funode View Post
    They would use online banking.

    200 million pounds is chicken change to the Mansoor.
    They may well do but the bank would still have them in and examine every aspect of the inside of Jake's backside before even considering lending the cash
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    Henry and FSG don't have anywhere near the finance of Abramovich or Mansoor - they're not comparable.

    My comment was only half serious anyway. But to be honest the 'we're taking our time to make sure we choose the right option' line is starting to wear thin. How long exactly does it take to make a good decision? 2 years, more?

    If the answer is, we cannot afford in this current economic climate, or we need more on field success to justify, then fine - that's a solid answer to work with. But the radio silence is deafening.
    Agreed we need some kind of solid answer about the process.
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    To be fair, this isn't exactly what Tony Evans said. I saw it last night, it was a conversation with Andy Heaton and Paul Tompkins about FSG's finances and the stadium build. Heaton and Evans were more inclined to think the lack of movement was down to a lack of funding/resource on FSG's part. No one made a claim they 'knew' as the finances as they haven't been made public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    To be fair, this isn't exactly what Tony Evans said. I saw it last night, it was a conversation with Andy Heaton and Paul Tompkins about FSG's finances and the stadium build. Heaton and Evans were more inclined to think the lack of movement was down to a lack of funding/resource on FSG's part. No one made a claim they 'knew' as the finances as they haven't been made public.
    Ahhhh thanks for clearing that up.

    I still don't think the new stadium is going to happen anytime soon, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesal View Post
    Ahhhh thanks for clearing that up.

    I still don't think the new stadium is going to happen anytime soon, unfortunately.
    The owners are worlds apart, but he spade in the ground in 90 days line still rings hard. FSG were seen a bit as our saviors from the wicked witch of the west when they came in and i don't think the ability to guarantee a new stadium (which was part of Martin B's conditions) was fully adhered to.

    I agree and can't see it happening right now, and the likelihood of Anfield being renovated also looks slim. If that's the case then pump money into the team and get things on the pitch working well. Nothing generates foreign interest and support like rubbing shoulders with the big boys in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOB View Post
    Sorry to post a twitter rumour but there was one going round yesterday from @tonyevanstimes that FSG cannot raise the money for the building of a new stadium. Does anyone have any decent info on what was supposed to have been said ??
    First point on this is "FFS it is TWITTER", when has anything been on there that is 100% true before the event has taken place?

    Second point, I would say that the owners may have funds to purchase a new stadium when we get back into the top 4, the revenue champions league gives us and qualification gives us is huge, compared to 8th place and europa league!!

    Every league place you lose or climb is 750,000 from what I have been told, so imagine moving up for places and then being given champions league TV revenue for the next 2 years!!

    But reality check, Kenny has messed that plan up and has been too busy chucking money down the drain with poor signings when we could have had 100m to start finance on the new stadium!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopen View Post

    First point on this is "FFS it is TWITTER", when has anything been on there that is 100% true before the event has taken place?

    Second point, I would say that the owners may have funds to purchase a new stadium when we get back into the top 4, the revenue champions league gives us and qualification gives us is huge, compared to 8th place and europa league!!

    Every league place you lose or climb is 750,000 from what I have been told, so imagine moving up for places and then being given champions league TV revenue for the next 2 years!!

    But reality check, Kenny has messed that plan up and has been too busy chucking money down the drain with poor signings when we could have had 100m to start finance on the new stadium!!
    get your facts right buddy. FSG didnt give out 100mil of their money. in fact, its the squad value. check the link out. the players wage was reduced and quality players left to offset the money.

    http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2011/0...re-moneyballs/

    if kenny messed up on tactics or substitution then yes, but the wasting of transfer money on average players coming in is comolli and scouting analysis on players worth. kenny dont sit beside comolli during negotiation.

    now the stadium issue is blamed on kenny?!making me suspicious if this official forum is free from any PR suits guys working overtime. lol. I used to work for a PR firm and I know what my colleagues are PAID to do on client forum sometimes.
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    Twitter...............

    Com'on now.
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