hahahahaha johnson a better full back than finnan hahahahahahahahahahaOriginally Posted by -RafaBenitez-
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hahahahaha johnson a better full back than finnan hahahahahahahahahaha
If you can't seen Henderson's potential there is no hope for you.
Indeed. Our keeper and back 4 are solid and competitive when in form...apart from that, the only really good players are Gerrard (aging), Lucas, Bellers (aging) and Suarez.
We still need a lot of work.
Johnson is far better going forward than Finnan, and his defending is far better than it has been in recent years.
Not Liverpool potential no. Look at James Mclean. He's a young lad shows great potential. Look at oxlade chamberlain he shows great potential. Raheem sterling he shows great potential. What I see in Henderson is an average Liverpool player and at the likes of Blackburn/Sunderland a good player. He ***** a brick every time he has the ball.
Agreed. Johnson is great going forwards, but a terrible defender. Sorry, but true
I actually think our squad isn't bad, it's just we lack about 3 special players which is something that we have had in the past. We need a proper striker (fowler/owen/torres), creative winger/forward (Macmanan, Beardo, Barnes) Central Play maker (Alonso, Molby, Redknapp). Add those type of players of there type of quality to our squad and we would be in the top 3 without a doubt IMO.
The "Liverpool way" is killing this club. Accepting anything the club does as brilliant has been our problem for 15+ years.
We're easily one of the worst run clubs in England. In the PL, only Blackburn gives us competition. I don't know why people have a problem admitting this. Once we admit it, we can lobby for change. Until we admit it, we're stuck in a downward spiral. We simply cannot be successful if we keep at it the way we've have.
What Paul Merson says shouldn't be taken as gospel truth. Johnson has been a great defender this season.
please mate you cant be a moderator and say you have seen potential in henderson because you must be a genius
I remember a few games this season where he has actually been our best attacking player as well.
That's it! Some of these dummies should think of where LFC would be without the world wide following. If the fan base was restricted to Liverpool the club couldn't pay the bills of League 2 outfit.
It's awfull, so many average players who need to play out of their skin to get to an acceptable level.
We have no goal scorers in the middle or up top, our defense without agger is awfull.
100m spent yet we are 30 points away from the scum, those stats don't bode well for kenny.
All this stems from the pre season we looked poor then, we gave away the only player creating anything in Aquilani, the new players looked average to poor.
I honestly think we are three years away from a cl spot with the players we have signed to 4/5 year contracts.
Another summer clear out needed, massive losses on ***** players. For one if we dont buy a striker to complement Luis we might as well flog suarez and hold onto donkey Carroll and carbon copy how Nufc played when he was half decent, depressing.
Little footballing talent at the club for the money spent.
1) RE: youth prospects ..... we used to have fowler/owen/gerrard coming through that had dried up yes we have sterling etc...but all unproven bar kelly
2) RE: better options upfront: 04/05 we had cisse, baros, kewell, garcia, gerrard, riise, pongolle, mellor etc...now its suarez, carroll, kuyt, bellamy, gerrard you said "better options" i disagree
http://en.eufo.de/index/squad/liverpool-fc/2004-05 link to the squad
http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/stat...epositions.htm link to the goals scored in the league that season 52, we are currently on 37 so that team had more goals unless in our remaining 6 games we score 15 goals or more, it can be done....but i doubt it.
3) You said better keepers maybe but dudek/kirkland/carson aren't that inferior to reina/doni/b jones
That's why i thought u were being sarcastic.....fair play if not
I am a genius and I see potential in the lad too. A similar potential, albeit in a different way, to the potential I saw in Lucas at the same age.
It's actually 36 points.
Sorry, but generally Johnsons closing down during open play and man marking during set pieces is weak. I do not believe any wide midfield/forward players have any fear of Johnson's defensive capabilities.
For the guy who said 2005 sqaud is worse than this, what a joke. The side who got to carling cup final and champions league final iin same season and finished just a few points off 4th. Compared to this squad where the likes of jay spearing, Henderson and Adam are plausible starters. We lack quality, heart and ambition.
1) Fowler/Owen/Gerrard were not youth prospects in 2005.
2) Riise and Gerrard were not attackers, Kewell was injured all the time, Ciise was out for most of the season with the broken leg, Sinama-Pongolle and Mellor weren't anything special and you forgot Maxi and Downing.
3) Reina and Doni are established internationals, and far better than Dudek and Carson.
Let's not disrespect dudek, he gave us one of the best nights of our lives
Well duh but you didn't say youth prospects that year, we were talking last 15 years, remember referring to the OP, i meant that the days of a fowler, owen, gerrard coming through have been over for a genertion now. Without psychic hindsight we can't say whether sterling/suso will break through and be successes they could be the next nemeth/pacheco.....we've been saying we have good youth prospects for 10 years and no-one has come through...it's a cliche, warnock, guthrie, spearing and kelly is it really 2 gone and only kelly i can see here long term.
2) Risse Gerrard got goals and if you're including maxi/downing riise played left wing plenty had a great shot on him, eitherway don't disregard the FACT: 52 goals that season 37 goals so far this season
3) like i said this season pepe has been poor and doni you cannot judge much he barely plays, carson played a vital part in the champions league run the great save against juve comes to mind....dudek was great that season so agree to disagree.
Last edited by JAZZY; 8-4-12 at 16:27.
Guy had some balls to pull his antics in the shootout. God bless him!Let's not disrespect dudek, he gave us one of the best nights of our lives
lets all take the goggles off we are awfull kenny says we have progressed yet we look like a mid table side. no matter how we look at it we once again for the 5th concecutive season need another 5 or 6 top players.
The double save against Shevchenko aswell, he's down as a legend in my books!Guy had some balls to pull his antics in the shootout. God bless him!
Reina
Johnson
Kelly
Skrtel
Agger
Carragher
Coates
Enrique
Gerrard
Spearing
Lucas
Kuyt
Maxi
Henderson
Downing
Adam
Carroll
Suarez
Bellamy
Question you have to raise is - how many of those players would be playing at Arsenal,City,Spurs,Manure or Chelsea! The answer is maybe a handful - this kinda tells you how good our squad is!!!!
After we replace the dross from the summer add another 4 to that, so my reckoning we need 6-8 players.
Dudek was crap that season, but he was great in the CL final.
This.
This is generous.
Can't see any of them picking up Downing, Kuyt, Bellamy.
Given Stevie's age and injuries, I can't see that either - perhaps Spurs
Reina - given last 18 months - none of them
I would say Lucas would make it into most of those teams and definitely Suarez
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