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Short-Term fix and Quality players
how about a short term fix of players , that can win us the Fa , Carling , Europa and get us into a 3rd place for CL ? Get better players in the 2014 season ..
In : Benayoun 2m
Drogba - Free
Defoe - 3m
Cabaye - 20m
Sessengon - 15m
Chivu - Free
Out : Adam - 5m
Aurelio-Free
Joe Cole - 2m
Aquaman-7m
Pacheco - 4m
Wilson - 2m
Net spend : 20m
Reina
Enrique-Skrtel-Agger-Johnson
Sessengon-Lucas-Cabaye-Gerrard
Suarez-Drogba
In:Originally Posted by joshuang35
Hazard
Llorente
Banega
Adam Johnson
Out:
Aurelio
Adam
Joe Cole
Aquilani
Kuyt
Henderson - Loan
Spearing - Loan
Sorry but i completely disagree. Benayoun as much as i love the guy will not come back and why would he ? I can understand buying defoe but for me he has to be behind carroll just because it would be pointless to buy a player like him to start. Cabaye for 20 million , don't you think we've given newcastle enough for the next couple of years? We don't need Chivu and now that he's playing well under Stramacionni ( pardon my spelling) he wouldn't come here.
We don't need a lot of players for a "short-term fix" we can buy players with enough potential that can have an immediate impact. Personally i'd like to have gago, sahin banega or moutinho, players that are calm in possession and can pass very well which is something we don't actually have much. Spearing as much as i love the guy is tooooo nervous on the ball , adam dwells and is a little lethargic with his passing but still a pretty good passer, these 4 players are very energetic , skilful and real team players. We shouldn't just be throwing that money around for players like sessengon and cabaye. they're good players but not that good.
Personally it's hard to name players that we can lure away and that would suit our team. We need ******* quick players that are adaptable and are smart intelligent players with great movement. Let's face it we won't be able to play the same formation every single time, we' need to change it up. Tbh i'd really like to see hazard's little brother who's an immense player, absolutely crazy. Eden even said that his brother is going to be better than him but that aside if we can have a player half as good as him eden hazard that's going to help.
I'd like to see this next year
--------------------Reina
Johnson---Skrtel-----Agger------Enrique
----------------- Lucas-------------------
----------Gerrard --------- Moutinho/Henderson/Sahin/Banega---
------------------------------------- Downing/ or anyone else
--------Suarez------------------------------------
--------------------- Carroll
We all know that if we play suarez on the right he will drift in which would leave room for johnson/kelly to charge but we all know that Gerrard is fantastic as a RM so that space created would allow him to attack is at will and whip in some amazing crosses for Carroll or chips for Suarez and hell if maxi is still here he could just do what bellamy did against blackburn. Either way with Suarez on the right , there will be a lot of room for Gerrard and Johnson to attack. But this will also allow Gerrard a lot more freedom , and tbh the only time he is good at deffending is when he's frustrated so by having a box to box type player next to lucas the 3rd midfield partner could tuck in and cover the middle alonso-Mascherano style kind of like this :
Lucas----------Henderson/Banega/Sahin/Moutinho
Gerrard
Which would allow Downing or whoever is our Left winger to actually attack and stretch out the opposing defence and he could continue his partnership with enrique which does actually have a lot of potential. Thing is as attacking Enrique is, i think this formation would help as he keeps holding onto the ball too long at times so if he lose it we have that LCM player who will be able to cover for him and downing does cover him quite a lot which and he deserves a bit of credit there. More importantly i think Downing's versatilitly will be really helpful because as he cuts in again Gerrard can drift left and whip in a cross but only this time he can kind of put Enrique into his place and make him linger on the ball less because obviously out of the two you want Gerrard on the ball a lot more and i think he'll realise this but when it's just him and downing i think he thinks he's just as good as him at LW( sorry if this part is confusing).
I think this sort of fluidity in the formation is just about right because it allows Gerrard to drift around which is what he does best as he's given more freedom. Suarez gets to play in a role which he does prefer more. Downing will stretch defences . Carroll i personally think will benefit greatly from this because his job will be simple, he won't need to drop deep to get the ball because that won't be his job, his job will only be to drag defenders away from Gerrard Suarez and Downing. The reason why Suarez has more time on the ball is because defenders ARE ALWAYS preoccupied with Carroll because as dangerous as Gerrard/suarez or downing might be , their positions are too far for them to go to. if they leave their position to attack suarez for example then they know their defence will be open giving the opportunity for suarez to either pass it to a player on the wing so they can cross it which would mean Carroll won't be marked by TWO Cb's but one , or he could pass to a player that has attacked the gap made or he could simply and most probably will take on the defender then have a lot more room. Either way Carroll despite not being the best player makes a lot of space for the team.
Tbh i don't want to sell anyone , i'd like to keep Cole or Aquilani but buy quite a few players with flair and intelligence , it won't be easy to find them but that's what we need. As much as i love Carroll we do need a new a striker , not to take his player but to rotate with him. I keep thinking Huntelar would be an amazing buy but i just hope we could rotate him around with Carroll enough to keep them both pleased.
Last edited by Jawad; 14-4-12 at 17:29.
If Defoe goes to a rival club for 3mil, I would be astounded.
I'd rather we looked at players who are good now, and not players who have the potential to be good in 5 years.
Eden Hazard
Ever Banega
Edin Cavani
Ezequiel Lavezzi
Munian
Adam Johnson
Demba Ba
Diego Ribas
Arjen Robben
Samuel Eto'o - unhappy with racism in Russia
David Villa - if Barca get a new striker in summer
Luke De Jong
Karim Benzema - if Tevez goes to Madrid
Javier Martinez
Lucas Moura
Out:
Cole
Aquilani
Pacheco
Aurelio
Darby
Amoo
Loans:
Shelvey
Flanagan
Robinson
Coady
Suso
Wilson
In:
Hoilett (Free)
Afellay (£10m)
Huntelaar (£17m) or Van Wolfvinkel (£15m)
Banega (£20m)
Sahin (on loan)
Armero (£5m)
Net spend: £35-37m
I don't rate Hoilett at all and I wouldn't have him anyway after his antics on Tuesday, little diving so and so. He spent all game trying to get our players sent off, we don't want that.
PS>, you'd get rid of Pacheco? :/
Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
Sebastian Larsson
Nuri Sahin (loan)
OR
Ever Banega
Sessengon and Laarson . How about that.
Sahin all day long, I put him my Liverpool FIFA ultimate team he fitted in well and he didn't take long to jel with his teammates
I somehow like cabaye more cos hes proven and might be cheaper
Cabayes only 400 coins he must be rubbish
If cabaye is rubbish , Adam is a Sunday league player.
In:
Junior Hoilett - Free
Royston Drenthe - Free
Mauricio Isla - 9m
Edinson Cavani - 30m
Out:
Jones
Darby
Aurelio
Wilson
Cole
Maxi
Aquilani
Pacheco
Amoo
Silva
Eccleston
Kuyt
Spearing
Adam
Hoilett showed often to be an intriguing second striker very ductile because he can play as right winger also, while Pacheco never plays in the side he's been loaned at (Racing Santander), he's always injured, so he gave me the impression to have stopped his process of growth as footballer, despite just 2 years ago he was considered the new Luis Garcia.
INS:
Andre Herrera-12M
Mauricio Isla-9M
Luuk De Jong-14M
Jordi Alba-14M
Ruddy-3M
OUTS:
Jones0.5M
Darby-0.5M
Aurelio-Free
Wilson-3M
Cole-7M
Maxi-Free
Aquilani-5M
Pacheco-2M
Amoo-0.5M
Eccleston-1M
Kuyt-3M
Adam-5M
Have to agree here, a good clear-out is needed with 4/5 quality players to come in; although I would say £'s generated from sales would be slightly less... Can't see us getting anything for Darby or Amoo, maybe half a million for Eccleston, 1m for Pacheco (he's rarely featured for Rayo Vallecano this season) and we would be very lucky to get 7m for Cole IMO; i'd for 2/3 million...
Honestly I laugh at posts in which you clear out 50% of our squad and replace them with 3-4 good players. For the first time in years we have built a decent squad with some depth, and some of you fail to recognise that. A great CM and striker, plus an intelligent winger (therefore not an English one), and we would be a side.
Out: Aurelio, Eccleston, Cole, Aquilani, Darby, Doni, possibly Kuyt (if $$ is right) and Maxi (though I would like to keep him)
In: a quality finisher - Luuk De Jong, Falcao (though I doubt he'll leave after just one season), Demba Ba, or Robert Lewandowski; a fast winger - Scott Sinclair, Junior Hoilett, Pablo Armero (9 assists for Udinese), or Juan Vargas; a creative midfielder - Nuri Sahin (if Mourinho is willing to loan him), Marco Reus (superstar in the making) , Affelay (relatively cheap option)
The only players that featured in the first team on somewhat regular basis are Kuyt, Maxi and Doni (he wants to move in order to be a #1 keeper again). The rest of the players will not be missed at all. We should only bring in 3, maybe 4 players (two wingers would provide nice depth).
Reina
(Gulacsi)
Johnson...Skrtel...Agger...Enrique
(Kelly)...(Coates)...(Carragher)...(Robinson)
Armero...Gerrard...Lucas...Downing
(Henderson/Hoilett)...(Reus)...(Adam/Spearing)...(Sterling)
Suarez...Carroll
Lowandowski
Last edited by F0wler1sG0d; 15-4-12 at 21:22.
Still find it amusing and frustrating in equal measure that some people just don't grasp economic reality. Liverpool FC do not make enough money to spend £60million+ on transfers in one window. The current owners removed our debts and are not going to saddle the club with new ones just to try and bring short term success. They made their fortunes from being very smart people, not pouring millions of their own money into annual transfers of sports stars
We need a few players of top quality but who may not be household names. Reina, Alonso, Hyppia and Torres were not exactly rated as world class when they came but quickly adapted and flourished. Even Suarez was virtually an unknown until the 2010 World Cup!
Still think we will need a top person to replace Comolli. Kenny should have full responsibility for the first team and report directly to Ian Ayre (as the MD) and the Board. He cannot also have responsibility for everything else, particulalrly talent spotting of young players from around the world. he should be consulted but if he is asked to stretch himself to cover everything then his focus on the first team will suffer (that or his health!). We also need to have someone who will deal with transfer negotiations with other clubs, players and their agents. The Manager can't do that these days as contracts are too complex, and last summer half the new players were signed when Kenny was away with the first team
Not suggesting we need a Director of Football or General Manager over Kenny, just someone (or more than one) who report to Kenny but who can take some of the laod
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