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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    I'm not criticizing him, I'm saying he should have twice as many goals as he has just like people are saying Downing doesn't have enough goals.
    Even when Suarez doesn't score half the time he is still the best player in our team, Downing doesn't score and offers near to nothing to the time most of the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    Even if Suarez was banned for 8 games he's still started more games than Downing so it doesn't matter, 11 goals isn't good enough as are Downing's numbers. The whole team hasn't been good enough, stop picking on single players. What did Suarez do in either cup final? F all, at least Downing was trying, if it wasn't for his doing we wouldn't have even gone back to 2-1 and had a glimer of hope. So now shut up about our players and support them all until they're gone.
    No that's not criticizing him at all!

    If there was a worst poster of the century award Gerrhard would definitely take the honours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    Apparently these are some stats that caught their eyes:

    Stewart Downing has completed more crosses in open play than any other player in the Premier League over last 3 seasons.

    Since August 2004, Stewart Downing & Steven Gerrard have both assisted 40 Premier League goals.

    Since Aug 2004, only 4 players (Lampard, Fabregas, Gerrard & Giggs) have created more PL chances than Stewart Downing.
    Silly Stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    Na, as long as he's playing for LFC I will support him, why are you going off topic?
    Because you're being irrational.

    Rational, but biased would be "Downing hasn't been good this year but there were moments of good and he's proven over his career to be very consistent. I expect next year for him to bounce back and be back to his usual ways."

    You're suggesting he's been good this season, was a brilliant signing, and it's everyone's fault except Stewarts. You're also not even beginning to recognize he can't figure out how to beat a full back. He doesn't know how to wonder and find space. He doesn't know how to create match-up issues. He doesn't know how to cross the ball to an actual person. His set pieces have been dreadful. His shooting has been poor.

    I find it even more amazing that you discredit Suarez while he's having to invent and create nearly everything. Every game he creates something, actually, several somethings. Downing typically gives us 1 decent chance per game. Suarez is supposed to be focused on scoring goals. Downing creating them. Suarez is left to do the job of 3-4 players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkirttles View Post
    Silly Stats.
    In what way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ardeshir91 View Post
    I'm boldly creating this thread now when he's had a poor season. But I believe in him. He's got great ability and when he's more used to our other players and our other players are more used to him, he will be a great asset. He's got a good cross, great pace and decent judgement. He has improved through the season and looks to be forming a good understanding with Mr Enrique. He was **** in Villa in his first season and improved drastically in the second. He may not be the best left winger we've ever had, but he will be an integral part of our team's success next year.

    I'm expecting a lot of cynical comments right now, but I'm going to bump this thread in a year (I've set a reminder on my phone... ) and hopefully I will be proved right.

    YNWA Downing!
    Downing will not come good because he is not good! ... hes an inconsistent player has been all his carer and ive said this years before he came to liverpool... He was been our worst signing by far.... i still cant get the laughs i recieved from manc and arsenal fans when they heard we bought him for 20 million

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    20million ????? Seriously ????

    Hes not young... hes not got a bag of potential he is 27 the prime of his career and he is just not good enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossMosh View Post
    Because you're being irrational.

    Rational, but biased would be "Downing hasn't been good this year but there were moments of good and he's proven over his career to be very consistent. I expect next year for him to bounce back and be back to his usual ways."

    You're suggesting he's been good this season, was a brilliant signing, and it's everyone's fault except Stewarts. You're also not even beginning to recognize he can't figure out how to beat a full back. He doesn't know how to wonder and find space. He doesn't know how to create match-up issues. He doesn't know how to cross the ball to an actual person. His set pieces have been dreadful. His shooting has been poor.

    I find it even more amazing that you discredit Suarez while he's having to invent and create nearly everything. Every game he creates something, actually, several somethings. Downing typically gives us 1 decent chance per game. Suarez is supposed to be focused on scoring goals. Downing creating them. Suarez is left to do the job of 3-4 players.
    Wtf are you on idiot? I've never said that, I said the ENTIRE team hasn't been good enough including Downing. Also the bit about Suarez's job, if he were to do his own job which is score goals we'd be in the top 4 right now. I think you need to shut up now.
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    I think you're right, he'll do well at Reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSkipper View Post
    Downing will not come good because he is not good! ... hes an inconsistent player has been all his carer and ive said this years before he came to liverpool... He was been our worst signing by far.... i still cant get the laughs i recieved from manc and arsenal fans when they heard we bought him for 20 million

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    20million ????? Seriously ????

    Hes not young... hes not got a bag of potential he is 27 the prime of his career and he is just not good enough
    How cute, did you cry to your mommy? You actually gave a **** what they think? Haha, what an idiot.
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    I think we all just have to accept the fact we were ripped off on this one.

    Glad we didn't get A.Young though.
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    maybe you are blind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    ? I've never said that, I said the ENTIRE team hasn't been good enough including Downing. Also the bit about Suarez's job, if he were to do his own job which is score goals we'd be in the top 4 right now. .

    how many of them was created by the midfield
    Last edited by bilsland; 11-5-12 at 13:00. Reason: edited quote
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    The fact that you are saying things like this tells me that in fact you might actually be an 8 year old child living in a teenage body talking **** on these forums that makes **** all sense!
    Language kid, watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trinired View Post
    how many of them was created by the midfield
    Quite a few, the point is he's missed them, doesn't matter who created them. And yes we do have a poor midfield, I knew we'd struggle when we let Aquilani go again and replaced him with Henderson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    Language kid, watch it.
    Thanks Dad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    Quite a few, the point is he's missed them, doesn't matter who created them. And yes we do have a poor midfield, I knew we'd struggle when we let Aquilani go again and replaced him with Henderson.
    Are you saying Henderson isn't a good player?

    He's scored 2 goals in 48 appearances - much like Downing who supposedly is good enough

    Jog on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    Are you saying Henderson isn't a good player?

    He's scored 2 goals in 48 appearances - much like Downing who supposedly is good enough

    Jog on!
    Downing has shown far more ability than Hendo, in chance creating Downing has created about 10x more and has started less games. But again, that's not the point, we're comparing Hendo to Aquilani. Hendo isn't anywhere near Aquilani's level yet.

    Don't talk to your dad like that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    In what way?
    Well I am sure that they portray him as being almost as good as some of them players, whereas when you watch him it is evident he is far from it.

    Also where it is pretty much all that Downing does apart from the odd goal, the likes of Gerrard, Giggs, Lamps and Fabregas have much more to their game then him, these abilities include vision, passing, goals and skill all of which Downing does not really have. So if I looked at other stats containing Downing I would probably conclude that he is pretty one-dimensional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkirttles View Post
    Well I am sure that they portray him as being almost as good as some of them players, whereas when you watch him it is evident he is far from it.

    Also where it is pretty much all that Downing does apart from the odd goal, the likes of Gerrard, Giggs, Lamps and Fabregas have much more to their game then him, these abilities include vision, passing, goals and skill all of which Downing does not really have. So if I looked at other stats containing Downing I would probably conclude that he is pretty one-dimensional.
    I don't see how. In terms of passing he's one of the best in our team, tidy on the ball, quick 1-2's, passing percentage usually around 85% every game. He didn't lack goals before he came here and technically he's quite good, excellent first touch, always in control of the ball etc. Just because he doesn't have many goals and assists here doesn't mean he's bad at everything, do you actually WATCH football? Or just look at numbers after games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    Downing has shown far more ability than Hendo, in chance creating Downing has created about 10x more and has started less games. But again, that's not the point, we're comparing Hendo to Aquilani. Hendo isn't anywhere near Aquilani's level yet.

    Don't talk to your dad like that!
    I'm done talking to you FULL STOP! You obviously on these boards to get on people's nerves!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    I'm done talking to you FULL STOP! You obviously on these boards to get on people's nerves!
    He's shown FAR more ability than Hendo and always has had more ability. His volley against Chelsea just further enhances my point.
    Last edited by bilsland; 11-5-12 at 12:57. Reason: make your point without the personal insults please
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    Stay on topic .


    That is hilarious ...

    And the frightening thing is you probably believe it.
    Last edited by bilsland; 11-5-12 at 12:58. Reason: edited quote
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    Quote Originally Posted by livrule View Post


    That is hilarious ...

    And the frightening thing is you probably believe it.
    Stay on topic
    Last edited by bilsland; 11-5-12 at 12:58. Reason: thats not your call
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    Quote Originally Posted by livrule View Post


    That is hilarious ...

    And the frightening thing is you probably believe it.
    Scary scary stuff! Gerrhard should go **** off the mancs on their forums by saying how good Johnny Evans is!
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    Anymore insulting one another will result in infractions, so pack it in please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    Scary scary stuff! Gerrhard should go **** off the mancs on their forums by saying how good Johnny Evans is!
    Johnny Evans is **** you idiot.
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    Gerrhard and I disagree 100000% on Stewart Downing but typically agree 100000% on Aquilani and Meireles. Criminal that we actively tried to get rid of those two players.

    Back on topic: I'd still sell Downing for £10-12m and look to spend that £10-12m on a wide player with more of an upside. I'd happily give Barcelona £8m for someone like Affelay for example. I also like Honda as a wide forward in stead of Downing but I have my reservations after his recent knee surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossMosh View Post
    Gerrhard and I disagree 100000% on Stewart Downing but typically agree 100000% on Aquilani and Meireles. Criminal that we actively tried to get rid of those two players.

    Back on topic: I'd still sell Downing for £10-12m and look to spend that £10-12m on a wide player with more of an upside. I'd happily give Barcelona £8m for someone like Affelay for example. I also like Honda as a wide forward in stead of Downing but I have my reservations after his recent knee surgery.
    Afellay hasn't played a game of football in 2 years.
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    Final warning!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrhard View Post
    I don't see how. In terms of passing he's one of the best in our team, tidy on the ball, quick 1-2's, passing percentage usually around 85% every game. He didn't lack goals before he came here and technically he's quite good, excellent first touch, always in control of the ball etc. Just because he doesn't have many goals and assists here doesn't mean he's bad at everything, do you actually WATCH football? Or just look at numbers after games?
    Irony, yes I do actually watch football which is why I do not look at stats like yours....so my question to you would be do you watch football?...or just look at stats, because when I watch him he plays terribly and i'm sure has bad stats.

    He did well for Villa when in good form however I do not care about what he can do if he does not actually do it, he may have some good passing but most of the passing I have seen from him is woeful, that is of course if i actually watch football...
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