Brendan Rodgers: 3 types of supporter. Which type are you?

[welshypool]

Seriously holier than thou this thread with individuals on their pedestals. Its so people can slap each other on the back about how good they are as a supporter.

Hate to spoil it for you nobody actually gives two hoots. More important things to be concerned with.

just to translate your posts for you as your obviously being ignored:

Me me me me, bitter, twisted, me me me, everyone, me me me me me me!!! Angry person, me! Waa waa!

[speedy1]

“There are three types of supporters at every club. No 1 are those who love their club and will love their manager whoever it is because Liverpool is their life and their passion.

“The second group are supporters who will accept you but to earn their real respect you will have to be successful, and that’s fine.

“The third group are the critics and you never change them ever. Ever. If you win 4-0 it should have been five, if you win the league you should have won three. But I will never worry about that group, because you can never affect them.





When i was younger I was the first type of supporter but now I am probably the second type as I didn't unconditionally support Kenny or Roy and Rafa earned my respect by being relatively successful.

I flit between 1 & 2 depending on who is in charge

[InsomniacOlympics]

The same, an excellent way of putting it.

Thanks

[RedBaros]

“There are three types of supporters at every club. No 1 are those who love their club and will love their manager whoever it is because Liverpool is their life and their passion.

“The second group are supporters who will accept you but to earn their real respect you will have to be successful, and that’s fine.

“The third group are the critics and you never change them ever. Ever. If you win 4-0 it should have been five, if you win the league you should have won three. But I will never worry about that group, because you can never affect them.





When i was younger I was the first type of supporter but now I am probably the second type as I didn't unconditionally support Kenny or Roy and Rafa earned my respect by being relatively successful.

This is too basic, and offers no in-between. Human's are complicated, there's more than just three.

It's your idea so I won't work it out for you, I'd like to see more options added to the OP before I answer.

[Shanks-the-Cat]

This is too basic, and offers no in-between. Human's are complicated, there's more than just three.

It's your idea so I won't work it out for you, I'd like to see more options added to the OP before I answer.

Actually I think its LESS types - i.e. its best defined by two types - although I kind of know what he means: the extreme of one of the types is a liability to the club. By framing it that way he is trying to isolate them.

Not quite fair on the OP so will try to start a different thread.

[gliderman]

I'm a 1.
I like objective 2's not opinionated ones.
3's I have no time for.
When things don't go so well I stay off the forum and don't bring everyone else down with pointless moaning.

[hansensunderpants]

I would say i'm the 1st one, but with a slightly altered 2nd one mixed in.

I have mentioned it many times how i am as a supporter, it's how i was brought up, it's how i've always been, it's how i'll always be and this is with the manager to.

Basically, Brendan will get my 100% backing, 100% respect, 100% leeway for his first full season, 100% relaxed Gaz, i'll allow for mistakes, i won't be to judgemental, i'll back off totally and allow him some breathing space.

This fit's in with number 1 and i love the club totally and this is what i think is best for this club, i want managers to be given longer than 5 minutes before having the world coming in on them and me on their backs, let them get their arse in the bleeding chair basically. Unless they horrify me i want them to have at least 2 full seasons, but of course can do nothing if they mess up and the club get rid quickly, i just don't want that or like it much.

In terms of number 2 and slightly altering it, well, i don't go from the bottom with managers or players and it's upto them to earn my respect or backing, i start from the top, they have my 100% of everything, as i said above, and it's on them to keep it that way for as long as possible, hopefully for their whole reign if they're successful. It's just the way i do things, if you start with zero respect, zero backing, and it's upto them to earn it i feel that's when problems arise if the results start off slow, i wasn't brought up that way with this club and i don't subscribe to this way, no issues if other do.

So, for Brendan, he get's me at the 1st group of people, a little of the 2nd in terms of respect, only on that he has me at 100% respect for getting the job, it's upto him to keep my respect, along with the backing at 100% to, it may drop in season 1 but as i give leeway it's cool and it'll be the start of season 2 when my true judgement of him begins and he'll have had 3 transfer windows and 1 full season to sort things out, it's time to then deliver.

That would have been the way for Kenny, only he got dumped, not my choice, it was the same with Roy, he got dumped, with a lot of justification sadly, it was the way i did it with Rafa, he then had a great 2nd season league wise after a unconvincing 1st one, it was with Houllier, his 2nd full season by himself saw us finish 3rd and win the treble, etc etc etc etc. I would be a hypocrite if i changed for any manager, won't be with Brendan, first season leeway, relaxed approach from me, not to judgemental, 100% backing and respect, don't horrify me and he gets season 2 no issues, can do nowt if the club decide otherwise though.

So, firmly in group 1, foot in group 2, only with a slight twist for me in terms of respect already being there at 100%, keep it that way Mr Rodgers and you'll have no real issues with me even if i'm critical at times.

Mind you, love is a strong word, i'd say i've only got that for the club as a whole, individuals don't get to that level really, nowhere near what i feel for this city and the club, so group 1 needs a slight alteration to in that respect. Love for the club equals full backing from day one for the individual maybe.

ffs why say a few words......

100% number 2.

although i'm wavering between 2 and 3 as far as owners go at present.

[Cullenator]

I'm a 4.

4. Better than other fans. Bigger penis than all other fans. Bigger brain than all other fans. Generally better.

[7 Megabytes]

I guess I'm somewhere in between 1 and 2. I won't withold support from the club until it's earnt, but I won't sing YNWA when 3-0 down at half time like they did in Istanbul either.

There are plenty of 3's on this forum and those are the most vocal. While some of them are just plain idiots, the majority of them have are older fans who've had their loyalty let down in the past by unambitious managers - so it's understandable why they have that attitude.

[smokintony]

The third group are the critics and you never change them ever. Ever. If you win 4-0 it should have been five, if you win the league you should have won three. But I will never worry about that group, because you can never affect them.

Is that someone who just doesnt like the manager and will criticise them for everything even the good, OR someone who is just expecting the club to win everything and play faultless football?

[prredhouse]

Whats this thread all about then?

[7 Megabytes]

This is too basic, and offers no in-between. Human's are complicated, there's more than just three.

It's your idea so I won't work it out for you, I'd like to see more options added to the OP before I answer.

He didn't mean it literally. It's a model. Models are used in all fields of academia - like economics, physics and psychology. It's better to have something insightful but simplistic rather something that's accurate and incomprehensible.

[LiverpoolOne]

Whenever challenged by a misinformed, lazy, or clearly biased opinion I am absolutely 100% No 1

[ManCrushOnSuarez]

I'd say I was the first.

[MFJTS]

“There are three types of supporters at every club. No 1 are those who love their club and will love their manager whoever it is because Liverpool is their life and their passion.

“The second group are supporters who will accept you but to earn their real respect you will have to be successful, and that’s fine.

“The third group are the critics and you never change them ever. Ever. If you win 4-0 it should have been five, if you win the league you should have won three. But I will never worry about that group, because you can never affect them.





When i was younger I was the first type of supporter but now I am probably the second type as I didn't unconditionally support Kenny or Roy and Rafa earned my respect by being relatively successful.

I'm definitely, without doubt, in the second group. But I don't see that as a bad thing. I love this club and it's my love for it that means I'll accept Brendan, even though I'm not happy with him, because I support the club no matter what. But he has to earn my respect by doing things for us. I can't respect a manager who does a **** job of it.

[Water Boy]

No 1. I never had trouble supporting Roy... until he bottled it.

[anfieldbound]

There's a problem with that theory and personally I believe its a incorrect generalisation of Liverpool fans. Infact no one person is one thing, being a supporter is not that black and white. We have different views on different things associated with the club. But its smart from Rodgers coz this might help him avoid what happened to Hodgson. I see already everyone has jumped on the 1 & 2 category and rest assured anyone who criticizes will be assigned the 3rd. That's the principle of 'Divide and Rule'

Spot on divide and rule trick. I am not a sheep and neither am I a zombie. I was a LFC supporter long before Rodgers became manager and he is not going to place me in a category. We LFC supporters have one thing in common and that is our abiding LOVE for LFC pure and simple; because managers, owners and even supporters come and go but the club LFC is the only constant that remains. New managers, owners and supporters will always come and go.

Shankly never tried to categorise LFC supporters in all his years as manager.

YNWA
All I know is at this point in time since his appointment all Rodgers seems to do is talk the talk a lot; I wait and see if all these will be transferred into the field of play. As of now all he says means nada to me. It is all hot air, I want to see what he does with LFC now that he is the manager.

YNWA

[Jammit32]

Like many have already said - I too would see myself as a mixture between 1 and 2. I tend to always be optimistic and sometimes find myself defending decisions made at the club or players who played badly because I like to see the best in things. But then every now and then I'll get a bit fed up with results, be disgruntled etc and question some players attitudes. So yeah mainly 1 but a pinch of 2 Ha

[anfieldbound]

There is A 4TH Type: A support that is being fed the line that we want the best and that we are moving on from the HICKS / G DAYS that supporter can smell b/s and is not going to blindly take it, u have a right to be unhappy with ** club when they buy 2nd rate players and pass on big time managers with GREAT records...Can anyone really tell me that Brendon Rogers is a better manager than Van Gaal? We maybe can have this conversation in 5-10 years but not now. We have the budget of a lower prem team and we now have a manager who is promising by all accounts but will need a few years to learn his trade. Mistakes will be made by all and I will give him time to learn BUT I HAVE A RIGHT TO WANT VAN GAAL.... A truely top manager who wanted to manage us by all accounts.

THIS! Like you, I no longer have nay faith in the owners (FSG). Some are prepared to wait years for Brendan to get us back to first where Rafa had us; then years before we even become a title winning team. That is the FSG plans for LFC; hence their decision to go for an inexperienced man to take the helm at LFC.

He is at the moment talking the talk and getting a few supporters excited; but the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

YNWA

[grenny158]

THIS! Like you, I no longer have nay faith in the owners (FSG). Some are prepared to wait years for Brendan to get us back to first where Rafa had us; then years before we even become a title winning team. That is the FSG plans for LFC; hence their decision to go for an inexperienced man to take the helm at LFC.

He is at the moment talking the talk and getting a few supporters excited; but the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

YNWA

You DO realise that your first sentence after THIS! suggests that you DO have faith in the owners? "I no longer have NAY faith in the owners" actually reads as "I no longer have no faith in the owners" which means that you DO have faith. You may now go back and edit your post to read "I no longer have ANY faith in the owners", if you like. #just saying.

[Syndicato]

just to translate your posts for you as your obviously being ignored:

Me me me me, bitter, twisted, me me me, everyone, me me me me me me!!! Angry person, me! Waa waa!

[dixie]

Im the blind fate supporter ..We can never be wrong !

[SuaRED]

Plenty of number 2's on this forum. Going to read the op now.

[WirralRiddler]

I will go with no.5

5. #WirralRiddler

[LifeRedLife]

“There are three types of supporters at every club. No 1 are those who love their club and will love their manager whoever it is because Liverpool is their life and their passion.

“The second group are supporters who will accept you but to earn their real respect you will have to be successful, and that’s fine.

“The third group are the critics and you never change them ever. Ever. If you win 4-0 it should have been five, if you win the league you should have won three. But I will never worry about that group, because you can never affect them.





When i was younger I was the first type of supporter but now I am probably the second type as I didn't unconditionally support Kenny or Roy and Rafa earned my respect by being relatively successful.

Rodgers must be a very smart manager to have noted that his priority to keep his job for good is to convince and earn his spurs from the 2nd group of supporters. Roy lost his job at Liverpool because he totally forgotten about this important group of supporters when he did not have results to back him up. Kenny lost his job because he also didn't have the results (at league table) to carry him throught, though he has overwhelming support from the first group of supporters.

Now, how Rodgers gonna earn his respects among this 2nd group of supporters? Before he can start winning games, he needs to build a strong team and have a good squad. Looking at or buying players from other teams from mid-table or relegation suspects may not be a good idea for him as he will need results straight from the first few games to prove that these players are good enough to wear the once proud RED jersey, as these group of supporters' patient level for him will be very thin. If he can bring in at least 1 big signing, someone of Suarez's capablities, Rodgers will be able to extend the patient level of these important groups of fans longer, to maybe a season at least.

I am from the second group of supporters and I will be very eager to see who are his summer signings.

[Shanks-the-Cat]

Spot on divide and rule trick. I am not a sheep and neither am I a zombie. I was a LFC supporter long before Rodgers became manager and he is not going to place me in a category. We LFC supporters have one thing in common and that is our abiding LOVE for LFC pure and simple; because managers, owners and even supporters come and go but the club LFC is the only constant that remains. New managers, owners and supporters will always come and go.

Shankly never tried to categorise LFC supporters in all his years as manager.

YNWA
All I know is at this point in time since his appointment all Rodgers seems to do is talk the talk a lot; I wait and see if all these will be transferred into the field of play. As of now all he says means nada to me. It is all hot air, I want to see what he does with LFC now that he is the manager.

YNWA

You're right - its all idle speculation for the moment. Hard to resist though.

So had a look at a few rival forums. Two things stood out, first there is grudging respect and worry over Rodgers appointment. Second that its OK because knowing us we won't give him enough time.

I think thats why he's trying to isolate the critics. Hell even I remember people telling me how Benitez screwed up and lost us the Premiership...

[Parrant]

Somewhere between 1 and 5 depending on my mood

[charmac]

We're taking a hugh gamble on Rodgers and I just hope it all works out for us. He talks the talk alright, but can he walk the walk, ???we'll find out soon enough, I'm cautiously optimistic though, you could say I have one foot in the Rodgers camp and the other one firmly on the fence.

[ladyangfield4ever]

I am 80% in 1 and 20% in 2

I have a very good feeling about Mr Rodgers taking this club , ( with being patience for at least 2 seasons that is ) back to competing at the Top ... But being PATIENCE is the key to our long term success , I am fed up with those fans at the club that expect success over night , In an ideal world yes maybe , but in the real world this is not going to happen ... I will be patient with Brendan Rodgers for at least the next two full seasons , to seeing a improvement in the right direction .

[StrikerDome]

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