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So what kind of style will we have under Rodgers?
I don't know enough about him or about Swansea last season to make conclusion about how we will set up last season.
I mean how would you describe his teams footballing mentality?
Defensive? Attacking? Counter attacking?
It seems as if wingers excelled in the Swansea team last season. Surly that's a positive as it's an area where we have struggled for years!
A lot like Wimbledon
Do explain.Originally Posted by suarez1976
Doggy.
Oh, that's not what you meant by 'under Rodgers'?
I dont propose to be a Swansea - playing style expert, but have read bits and bobs about Rogers philosophy. From what I understand, he wont be hit and hope, and wont play on the counter. Swansea, with a supposedly weaker line up, never recoiled in their play, they were always confident in themsevles and each other, with a pass and move mantra.
I beleive he is a massive fan of Barcelona, and actually spent time there observing their playing style. He likes players to press the ball hard when they are not in posession of it, which strangles the oppostions attacking prowess. He likes his players to move the ball around, using the width of the wide players, but does not play in a typical 442 style. He likes playing in a 4321 style, ensuring posession is key, meaning passes are penerative and not in straight lines. He also likes pace on the flanks, which again opens the oppostion up. Playing in this way means the oppostion defenders do not always have time to position themselves correctly, as the ball is being swept from side to side and behind them too.
Im looking forward to this style of play, which may in some respects be similar to how we played under Evans.
I expect a few buses to be parked @ Anfield, so Carroll in my opinion is more likely to play at home, when a variation of options is key, but on the flipside, i dont believe he will start too many league games away.
Last edited by Obi-Red Kenobi; 11-6-12 at 14:53. Reason: Was trying to play with12 men!
Only joshing - The above post explains how i really think we will play
I think his eventual vision is to see us like Barca/Spain and play the tika taka style football which is fabulous to watch. It will take time to achive this but im willing to give the time he needs, hope everyone else is.
Not saying i want this to be our team next year as some of these players are still too young for reguler starts but would love to see this team in a CC or EL match
Reina
Robinson
Agger
Coates
Johnson
Henderson
Lucas
Teixiera/Suso
Sterling
Suarez
Suso/Adorjan
I think it would be a fantastic young side
he plays more 4-3-3 / 4-1-2-2-1
Has a holding midfielder who needs to break the play up and then make short passes to other midfielders.
Wingers are "inverted" and Striker needs to hold it up but also have the vision to play in other players
full backs overlap alot.
Edit - just after he joined them was a 2 part article on news page from a interview where he sat down with a paper and discussed tactics, cant find it but there was basicly 8 "zones". LFC main page is messing me about so cant find it in archives at the moment!
Last edited by SwanseaScouser; 11-6-12 at 14:35.
You remember "sexy football" well not like that,
Rodgers team plays "seductive football"
Thanks for the insight guys, some good revealing posts there.
I hope so but I think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves and I hope people don't expect us to turn up next season playing like Barcelona. It will probably take time for Rodgers to install and execute his ideas and intentions for the team.
It all sounds very promising though.
People expect a Swansea-like style. Swansea finished 11th. I hope we'll do a bit better than they did. With a different set of players at Liverpool, it could be a big gamble.
True it probably will, some will give him till christmas thoughThanks for the insight guys, some good revealing posts there.
It all sounds very promising though.
Their style but with better player so therefore better results, in theory.
The same logic didn't apply to Roy's style.
We'll see it again with the England squad.
i guess 433 and 4321 are the same, depending on which team has posession
http://thepathismadebywalking.wordpr...taka-football/
this?
A couple of good articles on EPL Index....
http://www.eplindex.com/15096/liverp...ame-works.html
http://www.eplindex.com/14987/brenda...-tikitaka.html
The 2nd link shows the 8 zones referred to above by Swanseascouser
Isn't Tiki Taka just a smartarse way of saying pass and move?
That was a great article, really liked it and based on the 2-1-2-2-3 formation there I think we have some fantastic players for some of those roles, even before we spend.
GK - Reina was born to be a sweeping keeper.
Technical DC - D.Agger with Coates as backup
Powerhose DC - Skrtel, with Carra as backup plus youth potential, Coates probably could do both actually!
DM - Lucas as the 'volante de salida' is perfect, unbelievable ball winner and excellent passer.
Wing Backs - Johnson, Enrique, Kelly, Flanno, Robbo - sorted but room for improvement potentially.
Box-to-Box creative midfielder's - might need some reinforcement but we have Gerrard, Hendo, Adam who can help cover this role, though Gerrard might do better up front.
Inside Forwards - Suarez is perfect, could use another though, and Gerrard could also play this role to an extent. Bellamy also useful here.
Linking Target man - Andy Carroll, perhaps will need to adapt to more ground play but he's a good option and worse case scenario he's an ideal backup plan.
I'd love to see this formation come to fruition.
nope, it is a variation of pass and move. Almost every team plays pass and move to a certain extent so pass and move style as such doesn't really mean a lot.
Pass and move in triangles then?
Probably more "Pass, and Fustrate".....
It'll be a hybrid of our football and Swansea's football, certainly for the first part of the season, though it also depends on who he brings in to the club of course. In a year's time we might be closer to emulating a Barca "tiki taka" style of football than we thought possible.
I think the likes of Henderson and Downing might actually thrive under Rodgers. Dunno why. Just a feeling.
I know one thing about his appointment - it's intriguing, and exciting to think of the sort of football we could be playing.
What a good description there!
So you're saying we're gonna become the new Barcelona and win the league?
Probably pass the ball a million times between midfield and defence, I can imagine it being very frustrating. I'm hoping his plan having better players is more adventurous.
yes! it was a good read. Good exercise for us would be to see where our players could fit in to the zones, and where we might want players brought in!
edit: i did make a thread to do just that and put in a team i thought could fit in the zones but it didnt get approved!
Last edited by SwanseaScouser; 11-6-12 at 19:31.
To a great extent yes and we were supposed to be playing "pass and move" last season. Problem was we defended deep and put most of our passes together in our own half.All the square and back passes meant the opposition had plenty of time to organise defensively (or park the bus). I think Rogers style will see should putting more pressure on opponents earlier making it more difficult to defend against. I think it will be a more fluid style than last season as well.
It will be interesting to see which players get to grips with it best and are comfortable with it. Rogers first job of course is getting the players comfortable with his style.It might take some a while as they may be tired after the Euro's.
Well I have re read my comment and am pretty sure I didn't say that, 2+2 = 4, not 2345555444!
As long as it makes me drool like i have had a lobotomy i couldn't care less if i'm sexied or seduced
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