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Sturridge & Johnson
Personally I would be very happy if we only bought these two players over the summer? I say this as a realist, even these two could take some convincing. I don't believe there will be many joining our ranks, hoping the rumours we are trying to get these two are true.
Would be great additions.Johnson is realistic,Sturridge not so much especially with Drogba leaving.
Could have signed both not so long ago for next to nothing, so yeah its just like us to now buy them and blow 15million a piece on them.
Good players mind.
Neither excites me.
Sturridge would perhaps be a better fit in a 4231 system than Carroll but the tail end of last season gave me hope for him, its a none starter as I see it.
Johnson is a decent player but he isn't prolific, if he doesn't get off to a flier we could well have another Downing on our hands. He is also more of a traditional winger and I'm hoping under Rodgers we move away from anything resembling 442.
Add Gaston Ramires to that, and we may have something.
Though I must admit that neither Sturridge nor Johnson are anywhere near being my dream signings.
Not convinced about Johnson. Sturridge is a pretty decent option. Although he is a greedy player.
Those 2 sigurddson and cover for lucas and I would be delighted......so it probably won't happen
Elia has just handed in transfer request and it's been granted, we should be looking at him.
Imo we need a poacher in addition to Andy and Luis, and if DS's "greed" would make him fit that bill, then ok.Originally Posted by Macfoley
How do you accomodate a third striker who is leaving his current side becuase he hasn't been played as a striker enough?
I would assume that if we signed him, he'd be used as a poacher (as Andy and Luis have too high work rates to become one them selves) and not as a bench warmer.
If we are on a limited budget, I wouldn't be thrilled with either of these to be honest. Their prices are ridiculously over inflated. Johnson rarely, if ever, starts for City. They got him for 7-8 mil and he is now (somehow) worth 15-16 mil. What for? What has he done to double his value? Nothing. He's done nothing. 9-10 mil is the most I'd pay for him.
Sturridge is clearly talented, but he has hardly set the world alight, yet he is valued at 18 bloomin million! As with Johnson, I have to ask why?
If they do come, I will hope and pray they enjoy their football and have many wonderful seasons with us, but right now I cannot but think there are better players at better prices out there.
And what is that role?
A modern footballer needs to be hardworking, a club like Liverpool cannot afford to have a player standing in the 18 yard box waiting for the ball to fall for him.
If Sturridge comes it means that Carroll, Suarez or maybe both are on their way.
There isn't any way for all three of them to play together and I still see Rodgers playing more of a 451 without the ball and a 433 with the ball to mean that Carroll and Sturridge could play together as a pair.
As I said I think Sturridge would be a better fit for Liverpool than Carroll because he is more of a complete striker, he has pace and power however getting him would be a £35 mil deal even at the price suggested because we will be lucky to get even 40% of what we paid for Carroll Back
For that kind of money, surely we can bring in better players from abroad?
am i being thick, who's DS?
ignore me, Sturridge
Torres, Lukaku, Mata, Hazard, Marin and the potential arrival of Hulk. They all play in positions Sturridge does. Sturridge leaving is a distinct possibilty to me.
All depends on the price, really. Both are probably better than what we currently have. (No question in my mind for Johnson - he wouldn't exactly have much competition from our current squad...)
Don't rule out the cockney clubs gunning for Sturridge too. Spurs and Arsenal will surely be interested.
Definatley. I wasn't suggesting it's only us that would be in for him, just that him leaving could well happen.
Oh yeah, i do get you!but Sturridge could be living it up in smoke city and may not want to leave.
He's not convinced me he's the real yet anyway. He impressed at Bolton from the left and looked OK at Chelsea on the right. If I were Chelsea I'd send him on loan for a season INSISTING he gets played centrally and take a look after that.Oh yeah, i do get you!
Oh yeah, i would play him as a central striker. But who would make way for Sturrige to play upfront centrally? We know we can't drop Suarez...
Unless we go to the 4-3-3 formation Swansea were playing and have....
Suarez-Carroll-Sturridge
Could that work?
That could be a great formation and potentially alleviate Carroll having to drop too deep all the time. his lack of mobility means he can't be everywhere at once like Suarez can. We want him up top and in the box. Being able to bring Suarez and Sturridge into play with flicks and passes to either side, with Gerrard a deeper play maker - me likey
I would be happy with Sturridge, Elia and back-up for Lucas and Enrique.
That's also why I question if DS is the right man for the job. Imo we need a poacher type a la Rush, Inzaghi, RVN.
And in a formation something like this:
----------------------e.g. G. Ramires/Gerrard------------------
-----(*)--------------------------------------------Suarez-----
-------------------------Carroll---------------------------------
----------------------------"poacher"-------------------------
(*) could be Gerrard, Jovetic, A. Jonson etc...
From what good we saw from Carroll towards the end of the season, he also can bring those attacking wide players into play with his power in the air and his desire to fight up top and lay it off.
If not then prehaps,,,Suarez-Sturridge-??? Maxi (will he stay or will he go) Bellers (fitness in mind) Downing? Henderson?....are they good enough to be playing in that system?
Or by going with this thread....
Suarez-Sturridge-Adam Johnson
Which would then have people saying, Carroll-35 million on the bench, wasted, will crop up again!
I'm assuming this thread is based on the rumour that we've offered 18m for Sturridge? Yesterday it was 36m for Llorente.
Chelsea won't sell a player like Sturridge to us. Even though we sold Torres and Meireles to them, they're a small minded bitter club and I don't think they'll get into any business with us apart from when they want to take one of our good players away from us.
As for Adam Johnson, 16m is fair, I think we could grind it down to about 12m though.
My previous thought that Carroll would be treated as "un-sellable", due to the financial loss we'd suffer, has been over-ridden to a large extent by Rodgers refusal to work under a DOF. Can't picture a man that determined to influence the club on his own bowing down to boardroom cheques and balances.Sorry, this has been a convoluted way of getting around to suggesting that perhaps Andy could be shipped out this summer. If sturridge comes in, I'd fully expect Andy to be sold, or at the very least become backup. Sturridge as a replacement for Suarez makes zero sense and, as mentioned above, I don't see how the three can play together.
As someone said earlier though, it makes any deal for sturridge EXTREMELY expensive in terms of the loss we'll suffer on Carroll....also I think sturridge is a gargantuan tool and paying anywhere near the 18 mil thats being floated about would be a horrific mistake.
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