I know I have come into this thread late but I noticed some people calling Luis Garcia a Liverpool FC legend. Wow! Seriously, ******* wow!
Second point: Tiote is a completely different player to Lucas. He's good in his own right, but much more similar to Mascherano than Lucas. Lucas is a much better footballer than Tiote. Won't get much better than he is now either. Oh, and he's older than Lucas.
I think Lucas has the potential to go down as an LFC legend, but only because of the era he's playing in. IF he turns out to be a one club player and sticks around through the rebuilding process he will be remembered as a stalwart midfielder who was a bright point in several years where there were no bright points to be found. History will look upon Lucas favorably as a player who helped steady a sinking ship and was wholly committed to the club, regardless of his footballing ability. The armband (at some point) would help his cause further along as well.
tiote plays the same position as lucas and i rate him just as highly. hes 6 months older by the way lol
just to say it again. I rate lucas, i like him, hes a decent player but he will NEVER be a legend at this club. NEVER.
when i say legend i mean stevie, souness, kk, barnes, rush, fowler etc
theres a minority of posters who think he will be a legend and are posting it on this thread. the other more level headed ones choose not to comment as they know he will never be one but out of respect for the player dont want to to say so.
dioltas, skrtel power and paolomassy and systemofadowning all on the losing team this time.
at least we all agree that hes a good player.
just an unfortunate minority are disrespecting the real legends of this club by saying lucas is currently good enough to be an lfc legend one day.
paolomassy, watch your temper and stop with the personal insults. this was a football debate about a player before you started the insults, because my opinion doesnt match yours you get confused, aggressive and personal.
Last edited by hobnobs; 24-7-12 at 10:57. Reason: Removed wind-ups. You can knock it off too
I think it is fairly realistic to say that Lucas may continue to improve and one day be placed in the same class as the likes of Roy Keane, Patrick Vieira and Claude Makelele. It won't definitely be the case, but since we are talking about realistic hypotheses I believe Lucas have the potential to reach those heights, although it remains a difficult challenge for him.
Given that the above scenario is realistic, and given that the three abovementioned players are all legends in their own rights, I would conclude that Lucas indeed have a shot at becoming a legend, hopefully accompanied by a period of great success for Liverpool.
okay - busquests was in regards to a question if i could replace lucas with any DM in football. it wasnt necessarily a realistic question i was asked by cerered but i answered it for him. i know barca would never let him go.
yes i know tiote is 6 months older....thanks for confirming it originally. i dont know why you did though as 6 months age difference is irrelevant. the way you said it was as if the age difference made lucas more of an attraction.
okay so you didnt say he was a legend then. do you personally think he is good enough to ever be a legend at this club? along with stevie , kk, barnes and co. yes or no answer. dont do a gazza74 and write an essay on it without answering the question using 'ifs' , 'maybes' , 'mights' etc. my answer is no.
lucas has had 1 and a half good seasons, and 3 dire ones.
Well then we will just have to agree to disagree. I believe there's very little difference in ability between Lucas and the likes of Busquets. If he were to play in that barca team I believe the difference will be minimal. Whenever Busquets gets the ball he is instantly supported by the likes of Iniesta and Xavi. Lucas, on the other hand and for the large part of last season, has only the wasteful Charlie Adam and a raw Henderson to pass to, but still shined like a gem. He is up there with the best in the EPL imo, and if EPL is a world class league, then he is certainly a world class DM.
I just dont think lucas is a good enough player to be mentioned as a legend. a good player for our club yes, but a legend no way.
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Im glad some people think Lucas is or will be a legend. And when he wins something which he has significantly contributed to, then the first step is made, but lets not compare him to busquets just yet eh? youre talking about someone who has won the euros twice, the world cup, numerous league medals and domestic cups, the world club championship, and the champions league twice.
when youre comparing the 2, its not really close is it. And before you say it, yes i know our team hasnt won much lately, but if lucas was such a fantastic player, why has no one, similar to the likes or barca or madrid come in for him.? just saying!
For the record, i like the lad, and he has overcome a lot of criticism from 'fans', and id love nothing more than to be proved wrong.
im shocked that we have fans saying lucas is better than busquets and better than gerrard and mentioning him along with viera, makelele and roy keane. trully are a mjor embarrassment to the club imo.
lucas is a good player lets leave it at that. not world class, not on course to be a legend either
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