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  1. #1 Eternal Flame The Hillsborough Independent Panel report 12/9/12 (plus links) 
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    Hi All,

    On Wednesday 12th September the Hillsborough Independent Panel is set to release its long-awaited report. It's difficult to know what the day holds, but it's at least potentially one of the most significant in our Club's history. There will be extensive coverage of the days activities on www.liverpoolfc.com and LFCTV but the website forums will also be open for discussion and comment and we wanted to let you know about how the day will be marked within this community.

    On the day all sections of the forum will remain open as usual but we plan to change the forum display order so that the Hillsborough discussion forum sits at the top of the page. This is to indicate the importance of this subject. However it could lead to some users mistakenly posting non Hillsborough related content. We ask you all to report this to us so that we can remove asap. This board is open to all to post in and the normal opening hours for non subscribers have been extended to 11pm to allow supporters to have their say.

    At 3:06 pm we ask you to join with us in observing a two minute silence to remember those who lost their lives that day, those that still bear the memories as survivors or relatives and especially the families of the 96.

    Wednesday is likely to be an emotional day, as a moderating team we'll do everything we can to help our fellow supporters and we know that all members of this community will do the same. Let's hope that the day brings at least some measure of comfort and solace to those who have fought so long and so courageously to overturn the injustices, lies and distortions that for all these years have stained British Justice.

    The Moderating Team



    Update:

    All related documents that have been made publicly available can be found at
    http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/

    The full report can be downloaded from http://hillsborough.independent.gov....HIP_report.pdf
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    Bishop James Jones: Hillsborough panel will shine a light in the darkness

    THE BISHOP of Liverpool has spoken of the “dark times” in his two-and-a-half year quest for the truth about Hillsborough.

    Bishop James Jones, chair of the Independent Panel set up to scrutinise 400,000 documents relating to the 1989 tragedy, was suitably candid as he prepared to deliver his report.

    “Yes, there have been dark times. I remember standing in the police control box at Hillsborough and looking down at the pens where people had died.

    “It was a dark moment, but for me it was the moment the panel’s work came into sharp focus.

    “It brought into sharp focus both what we were dealing with, and the importance of it.”

    The Bishop was speaking just hours before meeting the Hillsborough Families to take them through the report. He praised the expertise and drive of his panel members but claimed the families themselves had played the key role in ensuring he and his team worked effectively.

    “Every document was read by a member of the panel.

    “The work was arduous and demanding but it was fulfilling because of the important purpose it served.

    “It meant the panel members were caught up in it and working harder than
    perhaps they should have been.

    “We never wondered whether we’d cope because, frankly, it was always about the families and how they had coped. It is fair to say we got our momentum from the families.”

    The Bishop revealed that a crucial decision at the start of the process had created that momentum.

    “When we were first due to meet we debated whether it should just be the panel. We decided no. Instead we wanted the families there so we invited the groups. It was vital. That first meeting was about their issues, their questions.

    “The experience of meeting the families became the glue that bound the panel together from the very beginning. It was their dignified determination that gave us momentum.”

    His own participation was determined only after some soul-searching and anxiety over the day job.

    “I was aware of the potential for document release and of the possibility of a panel being set up and Ken Sutton who became the principal civil servant for the secretariat asked me who I thought might usefully be on the panel.

    “It then changed to a question of: ‘If the Home Secretary asked you to serve as a member of the panel would you serve?’ And then: ‘Would you, if asked, be prepared to chair the panel?’

    “I consulted with colleagues because I was only too aware that I had many responsibilities that would have to be passed to other people.

    “As I talked to people, my mind became set that if I was asked then I would say ‘yes’. The approach came from Home Secretary Alan Johnson whom I knew from when I was Bishop of Hull and he was a MP for Hull West and Hessle. I had a respect for him and that helped.”

    When he took up the reins, the Bishop’s panel was picked for him – a situation many team leaders might have found uncomfortable and undesirable. If he had any fears they were unfounded.

    “They were all experts and I quickly realised that expertise meant we could shine light in areas of darkness. We had an expert in every single field we needed – police, Freedom of Information, archives, data protection, and criminology.

    “I added one person – Peter Sissons – because I felt we needed someone with an expertise in the media.

    “One cannot overlook the trauma – but the panel were still a joy to work with.”

    Their task – huge though it was – was clearly laid out in the terms of reference with a short but crystal-clear summary of what should be achieved: public disclosure, families first; establishment of an archive; a report to improve understanding of the tragedy and aftermath.

    They were supported by a full-time ‘secretariat’ made up of archivists and civil servants and met regularly with a steering group drawn from stakeholder organisations.

    “I have nothing but praise for the civil servants, they have been fantastic. They combined very effectively with the panel and were in constant touch with the different family groups. Interference? Let me say categorically – never. Ever.”

    *Timetable for the historic day of the release of Hillsborough files and Independent Panel report

    The panel met about 40 times in its two-and-a-half year life. There were numerous other meetings of sub groups, steering group meetings, liaison meetings with the families and their representatives.

    The Bishop led all but three of the 40 meetings – forced out of the chair only by the need to take two months off for open heart surgery in the form of a triple bypass operation. When he was diagnosed, the first question he asked his consultant was “Can I still chair the Hillsborough Panel?”

    The sheer number of documents made it a longer and more complex process than they had anticipated. More and more documents were coming into the panel’s possession, changing the nature and emphasis of the task they had undertaken. Strategy was laid out in the brief, but tactics altered as new information was accessed.

    And now with the process ended and at the point of delivery his concern is for the well-being of the families and for a measured and serious reaction to a “serious” report.

    “I hope the way the world at large reacts will be led by the way the families receive the report and how it is received locally.

    “The panel does not form judgements and make recommendations but this is a serious report and needs to be taken seriously. There are two audiences: The Bereaved and those who share their loss. Then there is the wider public. I hope how it is received locally will add momentum to how it is received by the wider public.’

    “People have used the phrase closure but nobody can presume that for another human being, But if the truth of any situation is unearthed and laid bare then the truth will shed light and show the direction forward. And it will have the power of pressure.

    “We just have to trust that process.”

    And 400,000 documents and two and a half years later, what has the Hillsborough panel scrutiny done to Bishop James Jones and his own trust in the human spirit? Enhanced it? Or diminished it?

    “Both. That’s the honest answer. I see things that should not have been, and I see people who have within them an indomitable love and just desire for the truth and that is very noble and inspiring.

    “From the start of the process I have kept two things on my desk at all times. Pictures of Hillsborough taken on the day of the tragedy and the list of names of the 96 who died.

    “I have frequently been moved to tears …. but my tears are nothing by comparison with those cried by the families.”

    BISHOP James Jones described leading the Hillsborough Independent Panel as perhaps the most important job he has taken on in his stint as Bishop of Liverpool.
    “That is because it affects so many people in the area of my pastoral care. I am pastor to the whole of Liverpool, not just the people who come to my churches.

    “In the remarkable village of Liverpool and Merseyside, there’s not a person who is not affected in some way by this tragedy so to care for them is an important part of my calling as Bishop of Liverpool.”

    Was he the right man for the job – the right bloke in the right place at the right time?
    “That’s a hard one but it’s something I’ve thought about. If there is a need and if I am the right person to help then I will help. In that sense the Fight for Justice has a profound spirituality. Hillsborough features in my prayers. A lot.”

    LIKE all of us, Bishop James Jones has a vivid recollection of the day tragedy struck.
    On April 15 1989, James Jones, then a curate, was in Bristol preparing for his Sunday sermon.

    “I remember very clearly hearing the news on the television and knowing that something very terrible had happened to our national life.
    “The scale of it was immediately apparent.

    “And in the early months of coming to be Bishop of Liverpool I received an invitation to help with the 10th anniversary and I met Trevor and Jennie Hicks.

    “That was the first time I had personal contact and began to understand for the first time how it has been for the families all these years.”

    It was a further 10 years before Bishop James fully understood the depth of feeling in Liverpool at large and the need for those in authority to sweep aside the cloak of secrecy.

    “I was presiding at the 20th anniversary memorial event at Anfield and I was staggered by the number of people that came: there were 30,000.

    “And when the crowd started to chant ‘Justice for the 96’ it was remarkable.
    “If they they had come in half an hour before and rehearsed they couldn’t have been more in unison.

    “And what that showed me was that after 20 years there was not just unresolved questions but a wound that was still open.”
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    Sheffield Weds have issued a statement containing condolensces and apology to all. SSN
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    Tough day for the families. I sincerely hope they get a start on what they are looking for
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjgalway View Post
    Sheffield Weds have issued a statement containing condolensces and apology to all. SSN
    Sheffield Wednesday FC welcomes the release of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report and would like to acknowledge the enormous amount of hard work by all involved during what was, and continues to be, an extremely emotive process.

    Throughout the compilation stage, the club has worked closely with the panel and the other donating organisations to ensure that, in line with the ethos of maximum disclosure, we have been totally transparent.

    Sheffield Wednesday would also like to record its gratitude for the thoroughly dignified manner with which the Hillsborough Family Support Group and its representatives conducted themselves throughout all levels of consultation with the club.

    Since the acquisition of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club in December 2010 and the subsequent decision of the previous board to dissolve the former parent company Sheffield Wednesday PLC , chairman Milan Mandaric and the current board of directors have adopted a policy of complete compliance with the requests of the Hillsborough Independent Panel and on behalf of the club would like to offer our sincere condolences and an apology to all the families who have suffered as a consequence of the tragic events of 15 April, 1989.

    We can only hope that the publication of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report goes some way to providing the closure sought by all those involved.

    The thoughts of everyone at Sheffield Wednesday FC remain with the 96 Liverpool supporters who lost their lives, their families, and the wider Liverpool community who have all been affected so deeply by the disaster of 23 years ago.
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    AT LAST. THANK GOD THE TRUTH HAS COME OUT. THERE WILL BE JUSTICE FOR THE 96. Am very emotional today and feel like all reds and all scousers can finally feel the comfort of publication of the truth.
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    Despite being 13 days before I was born, I can't help but feel emotional watching the truth coming out.

    I know how much this means, my uncle lost his best friend.

    YNWA and finally JFT96 will be gained.
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    The very-predictable truth emerges. I want to give my wholehearted thanks to everyone involved who has fought for this moment. Also a big thanks to all those who may not support Liverpool, but still ignored the scum who invented these lies (and allowed them to proliferate on a such a huge scale) and supported the fight for justice.
    RIP The 96.
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    Finally!! Justice for the 96!!!
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    And let's trust a lot more people decide better of their filthy habit of buying a certain lying rag
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    I am in tears, even as late as last night I had fears that still these families would not get the result they deserved.
    I have never been so glad to be wrong in my life.

    I know that this fight has been a long one, the events that were so horrifically covered up and the blame turned upon the very people who suffered both in death and in surviving have now been put out there for the whole world to see and understand.

    I cannot begin to imagine what this bittersweet day means to all those involved but at last your voice has been heard. May all those souls rest in peace and I mean the living as well as those who died.
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    I too am in tears. a bittersweet day indeed, Bils. As I also want to high five our supporters. And to say to those, who were quite content to believe the lies, NOW you have the truth. NOW you have to believe what the families, the club and the city have been saying for 23 years.

    I cannot imagine how the families feel to reach this day, one they have fought for with so much dignity & determination. And especially with the medical information that has come to light today. Our thoughts are with them today as always.
    RIP the 96
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    yes Larks, it makes it all the more horrific that there was a chance that 41 of those 96 might have survived with proper care on the day.
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    To all the families of the 96,the fans,the great LFC.....the truth is out at last.My heart goes out to you all and i send all my love to the people of Liverpool.May the 96 now rest in peace and may justice prevail.Sid Cunha Hillcrest South Africa.You'll never walk alone.XXXXXXX
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    Sending my love and respect to the people of Liverpool.
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    May you rest in peace now the truth is out ! RIP 96 XXX
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    23 years of hurt and now for justice, the Hillsborough Campaign Group and liverpool fans alike can be extremely proud of the effort they have put into the fight for justice of the 96 fans, everyone connected to liverpool football club new the truth of what happened that day in 1989 and yet they have suffered at the hands of vile media tripe, the truth has finally come out today, and now the fight continues for justice for the 96 loved ones who never will be forgotten.

    Justice For The 96
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    The truth is out but you will never be forgotten!

    96 brothers and sisters, may you rip!

    YNWA!!
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    hi guys, I would just like to say,
    the truth is now out thank god. god guide the 96 souls lost
    due to police incompetence.

    i hope the family's of the lost get what they are looking for.
    hail hail.
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    JFT 96 YWNA

    Gone but never forgotten
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    Finally after 23 years the truth has been done. Sad day, although the families involved in this tragedy have received the apologizes by the government, 96 innocent people are still invoking justice. Let's pray for them. JFT96 YNWA innocent souls
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    Finally The Truth.

    41 fans... I'm shocked at the amount that could have been given a chance to live, had those in charge reacted differently.

    I always thought there would have been some, I never thought it was so many.


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    I have the vigil streaming live now.
    I've read so much about things over so long. I spent hours on the HJC website feeling more and more depressed about it all as I read the horrifying details, as injustice after injustice reigned and everything seemed so very dark.
    Reviews came and went, justice seemed further and further away than ever, but now we have reached the truth.
    It's odd though because now that the truth is out, I've cried more now than at any point before.
    The people who fought for this moment are absolute heroes. You are the best
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    May you Rest in Peace, the 96 who never came back home. You will never be forgotten.

    To the 96, their families and friends, to the survivors and the people of Liverpool, your dignity and resilience, your strive for justice and the Truth, You Will Never Walk Alone.
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    REst in peace

    The truth written at last!

    May justice follow

    To the families - we will continue to support you

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    I'm relieved that the truth is out but shocked and sickened by some of the smear campaign tactics by South Yorkshire Police. We can only hope that those responsable will be brought to justice. RIP to the 96.
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