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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    no worse than any other club i dont think. look at united , arsenal spurs city they ve all had key players missing at some point
    We have currently 3 of our starting XI and our only real impact sub out. I don't think any of them have that predicament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    We have currently 3 of our starting XI and our only real impact sub out. I don't think any of them have that predicament.
    no cos they had stronger starting suads

    arsenal did have ozil and sacnhez out for a while

    spurs had kane and vertonghen out

    city have had kompany out all season , aguero was out now jesus is out

    we started the season 2 uality players short of what we needed. thats the problem not the injuries
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    We have currently 3 of our starting XI and our only real impact sub out. I don't think any of them have that predicament.
    thats a proiblem

    that we only have one real impact sub

    i m hoping grujic and origi will prove their worth in the coming weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    no worse than any other club i dont think. look at united , arsenal spurs city they ve all had key players missing at some point
    Maybe we've not had the worst luck, but MUCH worse than some clubs.

    "This Chelsea team has started 11 of their 22 Premier League matches since Antonio Conte switched to start a league game with a 3-4-3 formation for the first time, in the 2-0 win at Hull on 1 October. Only two other players have started league games for the club in that period - Willian (8 starts) and Cesc Fabregas (6)" - You don't even need the names, you know their team so well.

    Where might we be if we'd had a bit of that luck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    Maybe we've not had the worst luck, but MUCH worse than some clubs.

    "This Chelsea team has started 11 of their 22 Premier League matches since Antonio Conte switched to start a league game with a 3-4-3 formation for the first time, in the 2-0 win at Hull on 1 October. Only two other players have started league games for the club in that period - Willian (8 starts) and Cesc Fabregas (6)" - You don't even need the names, you know their team so well.

    Where might we be if we'd had a bit of that luck?
    where might we be with a prper cb and dm and another wide man
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    where might we be with a prper cb and dm and another wide man
    Or an entirely different squad. Or if we were playing a different sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    Maybe we've not had the worst luck, but MUCH worse than some clubs.

    "This Chelsea team has started 11 of their 22 Premier League matches since Antonio Conte switched to start a league game with a 3-4-3 formation for the first time, in the 2-0 win at Hull on 1 October. Only two other players have started league games for the club in that period - Willian (8 starts) and Cesc Fabregas (6)" - You don't even need the names, you know their team so well.

    Where might we be if we'd had a bit of that luck?
    No doubt, they've been very lucky. A long term injury to Costa would have really tested their title credentials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Seamus- View Post
    No doubt, they've been very lucky. A long term injury to Costa would have really tested their title credentials.
    When you compare that to us - how many games have we even managed to field 2 out of our best defence/midfield/attack? We always seem to be having to change either defence and attack, or midfield and attack, or defence and midfield. How many times have we had all XI available? Can't be many.

    Ourselves and Chelsea both carried smaller squads due to no Europe - you shouldn't need to rest/rotate as often so you're only really covering injuries and substitutes/alternatives. Teams competing in Europe genuinely need a bigger squad to manage the extra games, which generally puts them in a stronger position to withstand a few injuries as well.

    Chelsea have totally got away with that as planned, we've not been so lucky. It's been the (a) difference between a title challenge and top 4 challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    When you compare that to us - how many games have we even managed to field 2 out of our best defence/midfield/attack? We always seem to be having to change either defence and attack, or midfield and attack, or defence and midfield. How many times have we had all XI available? Can't be many.

    Ourselves and Chelsea both carried smaller squads due to no Europe - you shouldn't need to rest/rotate as often so you're only really covering injuries and substitutes/alternatives. Teams competing in Europe genuinely need a bigger squad to manage the extra games, which generally puts them in a stronger position to withstand a few injuries as well.

    Chelsea have totally got away with that as planned, we've not been so lucky. It's been the (a) difference between a title challenge and top 4 challenge.
    Yeah. I can't think of many games either where we had our strongest side on the pitch. This season we've seen long term injuries to Ings, Matip, Sturridge, Henderson, Coutinho, Lallana and then we've had Mané away for 5 or 6 weeks on international duty. Also, there was the Matip situation.

    Chelsea have been lucky but we on the other hand have been at the opposite side of the spectrum, especially when you consider Henderson Lallana and now Mané are out again. It's made a huge difference for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Seamus- View Post
    Yeah. I can't think of many games either where we had our strongest side on the pitch. This season we've seen long term injuries to Ings, Matip, Sturridge, Henderson, Coutinho, Lallana and then we've had Mané away for 5 or 6 weeks on international duty. Also, there was the Matip situation.

    Chelsea have been lucky but we on the other hand have been at the opposite side of the spectrum, especially when you consider Henderson Lallana and now Mané are out again. It's made a huge difference for sure.

    Our best XI (GK, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Mane, Firmino, Coutinho) has started twice in the league.

    Clyne-Matip-Lovren-Milner is either 11 or 12 of the 30 (I'm pretty sure it's 11). There's no doubt that injuries etc. have hit us pretty hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri_Bates View Post
    Our best XI (GK, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Mane, Firmino, Coutinho) has started twice in the league.

    Clyne-Matip-Lovren-Milner is either 11 or 12 of the 30 (I'm pretty sure it's 11). There's no doubt that injuries etc. have hit us pretty hard.
    pretty clear that the problem is with quality in depth then
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    pretty clear that the problem is with quality in depth then
    Yes, but we somewhat knew that going in, particularly about the lack of pace and questions at CB. It also hasn't been helped at all by two of the expected first 7 (Ings, Grujic) subs being out all season and Sturridge being Sturridge either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri_Bates View Post
    Yes, but we somewhat knew that going in, particularly about the lack of pace and questions at CB. It also hasn't been helped at all by two of the expected first 7 (Ings, Grujic) subs being out all season and Sturridge being Sturridge either.
    not disagreeing with you
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    Can anyone please provide an update on Ove Ejaria? What sort of injury has he had and is he back in training yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountbeautygeorge View Post
    Can anyone please provide an update on Ove Ejaria? What sort of injury has he had and is he back in training yet?
    A nasty one and no he isn't.
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    Where is Ojo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    Please change your user name asap...it's inappropriate.
    Thank you, Grots. I was about to make further comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiddlerDave View Post
    Thank you, Grots. I was about to make further comment.
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    Danny Ings back running.
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    Lallana back in FULL training next week.
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    our center backs are so frustrating!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LW94 View Post
    our center backs are so frustrating!!!!!!!
    Bring Jones back.
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    Henderson must have had a setback he was on crutches yesterday.
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    Our injuries this season......

    Lallana - 11 Games (including Palace this weekend)
    Mane - 10 Games (including the rest of the season)
    Matip - 10 Games
    Coutinho - 10 Games
    Sturridge - 9 Games (not counting the other games he missed as Klopp felt he wasn't ready)
    Henderson - 8 Games and counting
    Karius - 4 Games
    Lucas - 3 Games
    Can - 3 Games
    Klavan - 2 Games
    Lovren - 2 Games
    Milner - 1 Game
    Firmino - 1 Game

    Our best defender, our two star attacking players and arguably our stand out midfield performer of the 1st half of the season all missed 10 games or more.

    And our captain is likely to end up the same.
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    Is Danny out for the season? Hendo too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMacDW View Post
    Our injuries this season......

    Lallana - 11 Games (including Palace this weekend)
    Mane - 10 Games (including the rest of the season)
    Matip - 10 Games
    Coutinho - 10 Games
    Sturridge - 9 Games (not counting the other games he missed as Klopp felt he wasn't ready)
    Henderson - 8 Games and counting
    Karius - 4 Games
    Lucas - 3 Games
    Can - 3 Games
    Klavan - 2 Games
    Lovren - 2 Games
    Milner - 1 Game
    Firmino - 1 Game

    Our best defender, our two star attacking players and arguably our stand out midfield performer of the 1st half of the season all missed 10 games or more.

    And our captain is likely to end up the same.
    which goes to show our best players dont have the stamina to go a full season uninjured...so quality cover for all is needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post
    Is Danny out for the season? Hendo too?
    Unfortunately I think sturridge has played his last game for us.
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    Stewart's season over after surgery.
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