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    Good Morning.....

    I have decieded to make a thread concerning all future media and goverment bodies statements etc so that everything is in one thread instead of seperate threads....as we are finally coming to the point that authorities are seemingly start to move I think it's a good time.So much has happened since the release of the IPR that it's too much to put everything up in here[and as you are aware the very large threads are causing problems for the tec team] so will post a link to the Echo's archive and will go from here.

    I will also open a seperate thread for all info and dates on future Parliament/Select Committee debates...tv/radio programmes etc so again everyone can see at a glance what's coming up.

    Justice for the 96....their families and suvivours.


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    Link to Echo archive....

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver.../hillsborough/
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    APA statement on Hillsborough Inquiries by IPCC and DPP







    Statement by APA Chair, Cllr Mrs Diana Holl-Allen MBE in response to the news that the IPCC police watchdog and director of public prosecutions have announced they will both launch inquiries into possible crimes committed by police following the tragic events at Hillsborough on 15th April 1989:



    "Police authorities welcome this decision and eagerly await the justice that has been denied to those who lost loved ones at Hillsborough for too long. We reaffirm our sincere regrets and sorrow to the families and friends of 'the 96', and thanks to the authors of the Independent Panel who have revealed the truth of what happened at Hillsborough both comprehensively and clearly.

    We pay tribute to the persistence of those who fought for this long-awaited outcome and look forward with them to justice being done, and being seen to be done.

    The failings of individuals involved in the tragedy of Hillsborough were felt most acutely by those who lost loved ones but they also impacted on the essential element of trust that binds the police and the rest of the public.

    Despite the dedication of many, the failings of a few, both on the day and in the ensuing cover up, let down the many who worked to help those involved in Hillsborough's horror, and have shocked us all.

    Public trust in the police is a non-negotiable requirement. We share the view of Chief Constables that any police officer found to have broken the law must face the full sanction of the law.

    The levels of public trust and confidence in the police have risen substantially but Hillsborough has rightly cast a long shadow over 23 years. Now due process must bring those who have shamed the police and shocked the public to justice swiftly and allow those affected by the events of April 15th 1989 to find some peace after such an appalling long ordeal." ENDS.




    Notes to Editors
    1.Press contact: Nathan Oley, Head of Press and Public Affairs, 07714 399 760 / Nathan.oley@apa.police.uk
    2.The Association of Police Authorities (APA) represents all police authorities in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, as well as the British Transport Police Authority, the Civil Nuclear Police Authority, and the Ministry of Defence Police Committee.
    3.Local police authorities, along with the Home Secretary and chief officers of police, make up the tripartite relationship which is responsible for the governance of policing in England and Wales.
    4.Police authorities are currently made up of local people: a mix of local councillors and independent members (selected from the community) of which one must be a magistrate.
    5.The tripartite partners are the Home Office, the Association of Chief Police Officers and the Association of Police Authorities.
    6.The job of police authorities is to: Consult with local communities to find out what they want the local police to do
    Set the strategic direction for policing locally and decide what the police should focus their attention on locally, based on consultations with local communities
    Set the budget for their police force, and decide how much local people should pay for policing in the local council tax
    Make sure the police force is continuing to do a better job
    Appoint (and, if necessary, dismiss) chief constables and senior police officers

    http://www.apa.police.uk/news-releas...y-ipcc-and-dpp
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    EMERGENCY laws to compel police officers to give evidence to the Hillsborough cover-up investigation have been approved by MPs.

    The House of Commons voted to compel serving officers or staff on other police bodies to attend an interview with the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

    It will also have the ability to re-investigate matters already considered by its predecessor the Police Complaints Authority (PCA), in "exceptional circumstances".

    Policing minister Damian Green introduced the bill and revealed that Attorney General Dominic Grieve will "very shortly" make a public announcement on applying to the courts to quash the "accidental death" inquest verdicts.

    The bill must now go before the House of Lords before it becomes law and is not expected to be resisted.

    Merseyside MPs raised concerns that the IPCC will not be able to impose sanctions on police officers refusing to attend interviews.

    The All Party Parliamentary Group on Hillsborough, chaired by Wirral South MP Alison McGovern, tabled an amendment to allow the IPCC to impose sanctions.

    But police minister Damian Green said police forces will have the power to discipline officers refusing to attend interviews, which they said can ultimately lead to dismissal.

    The amendment was withdrawn to allow quick passage to the bill.

    Mr Green told the Commons: "The conclusions of the independent panel’s report were deeply distressing, the failure of the authorities to protect the fans, the attempts to blame them and the doubts cast on the original coroner’s inquests are all particularly troubling findings.

    "It shouldn’t have taken 23 years to get to this point but finally the report gets us to the stage of knowing the truth, the truth now accepted by all.

    "The report exposes many attempts made by the authorities, those charged with protecting the public and uncovering the truth of those events to change official records, to obscure the truth, to paint a different picture of what actually happened.

    "So the truth is both shocking and essential but it is not the end. As the Bishop of Liverpool has said, we now need to move from truth to justice and it is this move that is at the centre of the bill before us today."

    The IPCC has already announced it will be investigating the findings of the independent panel and will unusually look at both misconduct and potentially criminal behaviour by retired officers.

    All officers involved on the day and in subsequent investigations will be looked at, Mr Green said.

    He told MPs: "In relation to Hillsborough, the IPCC has made it clear it will investigate retired officers for both criminal behaviour and misconduct because the public interest in these cases is compelling."


    Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...#ixzz2EDIxAbyc
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    5 December 2012 Last updated at 23:42 Share this pageEmail Print Share this page

    107ShareFacebookTwitter.Hillsborough probe bill supported in House of Commons The actions of up to 2,400 serving or retired officers could be considered by the IPCC Continue reading the main story
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    New powers to help the investigation of police officers involved in the Hillsborough disaster have been approved by MPs in the Commons.

    The actions of up to 2,400 serving or retired officers could be considered by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) investigation.

    The Police (Complaints and Conduct) Bill would grant the IPCC new powers.

    It will mean police officers and staff would be compelled to testify as witnesses in IPCC investigations.

    It will also mean that in exceptional circumstances the IPCC could investigate a matter that has already been investigated by its predecessor body, the Police Complaints Authority.

    'Truth to justice'

    The emergency legislation was put forward by the government to help the IPCC in its investigation into the police's response to the Hillsborough disaster.

    The inquiry was prompted by the Independent Hillsborough Panel Report, released in September, which found police and emergency services had made "strenuous attempts" to deflect the blame for the disaster on to fans.

    The panel revealed 164 police statements had been altered - 116 of them to remove or change negative comments about the policing of the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at the Sheffield stadium.

    The bill had cross-party support and cleared the House of Commons in less than four hours, receiving its second and third readings without a vote.

    It must now be approved by the House of Lords.

    Speaking in the Commons, Policing Minister Damian Green said: "The conclusions of the independent panel's report were deeply distressing: the failure of the authorities to protect the fans, the attempts to blame them and the doubts cast on the original coroner's inquests are all particularly troubling findings.

    "As the Bishop of Liverpool has said, we now need to move from truth to justice and it is this move that is at the centre of the bill before us today."

    Mr Green said if the bill were passed, he was sure any officer who failed to comply would face disciplinary action and could be dismissed.

    The IPCC would not have the same power to compel retired officers to appear as witnesses, but Mr Green said he would expect them to attend willingly.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20614524#
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    Hillsborough families concerned over slow speed of police cover-up investigation

    by David Bartlett, Liverpool Echo
    Dec 6 2012


    HILLSBOROUGH families today warned the investigation into the police cover-up after the disaster is progressing too slowly.

    The concerns were raised as MPs voted to grant the police watchdog extra powers to strengthen the inquiry.

    Yesterday the House of Commons passed emergency laws to compel serving officers or staff on other police bodies to attend an interview with the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

    It will also have the ability to re-investigate matters already considered by its predecessor the Police Complaints Authority (PCA), in “exceptional circumstances”.




    Policing minister Damian Green introduced the bill and revealed that Attorney General Dominic Grieve will “very shortly” make a public announcement on applying to the courts to quash the “accidental death” inquest verdicts.

    The bill will go before the House of Lords on Tuesday and is not expected to be resisted.

    Last week the IPCC updated the Hillsborough Family Support Group (HFSG) and Hillsborough Justice Campaign (HJC) on its investigation.

    Both groups today voiced concerns the investigation – which includes looking at the role of more than 2,400 police officers – is not progressing quickly enough.

    As the IPCC’s 10-point terms of reference (click here) make clear, it is essentially concerned with the cover-up of the disaster at the Hillsborough stadium in 1989 that claimed 96 lives.

    The families are not happy with the refusal from the IPCC and ministers for an overall lead investigator to be appointed to work with the police watchdog and the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Keir Starmer, who is looking at decisions that led to the deaths.

    Mr Green said legal and constitutional constraints mean there cannot be a lead investigator.

    A spokesman for the IPCC said the commission was aware of the concerns and was working to address them.


    Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...#ixzz2EGKscHgy

    HFSG barrister Lord Falconer said: “We are really keen that the IPCC coordinate with the other investigations that are going on. We are worried that there is not enough progress being made getting that co-ordinated investigation. The families have waited for a long time to see proper accountability.”

    He said it was not right there were delays because the investigating authorities could not reach agreement.

    The peer also criticised the IPCC for presenting its terms of reference to families without consultation.

    In contrast he said Hillsborough families were “tremendously impressed” with the DPP.




    He said: “We came away from that meeting with IPCC anxious about progress. Our anxiety is that instead of being focused on the families, they are trying to maintain their own position in relation to the overall story.

    “But this is a solvable problem, and we want it solving quickly.”

    Sheila Coleman, of Hillsborough Justice Campaign, said: “According to the IPCC’s terms of reference they are only investigating the aftermath of the disaster.

    “They have identified seven officers who were involved in the opening of the gate. They have been the subject of the Police Complaints Authority in the past, but the IPCC now has the power to deal with that.”

    She said pressure needed to be kept on the IPCC to look into this.

    Mrs Coleman added: “The IPCC have said that they do not mind some form of scrutiny [of their investigation], but they will not allow anyone oversight.

    “We still feel that there should be one individual or group of people that is allowed to access their investigation to ensure transparency. It remains of concern to HJC the time it is taking to set up and establish the investigation. We need to see personnel in place and the investigation moving at a consistent and efficient speed.”


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    Police who refuse to talk in Hillsborough inquiry could be sacked



    by David Bartlett, Liverpool Echo
    Dec 6 2012


    POLICE officers refusing to co-operate with the Hillsborough investigation face being sacked by their force, ministers insisted.

    Damian Green, the policing minister, yesterday resisted calls by Merseyside MPs to give the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) the power to sanction officers refusing to co-operate with their Hillsborough investigation.

    Mr Green said the Police Conduct Regulations 2012 gave police chiefs the powers to discipline officers who refused to attend interviews.

    The IPCC will have the power to compel officers to attend interviews as witnesses once the emergency Police (Complaints and Conduct) Bill is approved by the House of Lords.

    During a Parliamentary debate on the new Bill, Merseyside MPs raised concerns the law will not operate effectively if the IPCC cannot impose sanctions on police officers.

    Concern was also expressed that retired officers are not covered by the new laws.

    The All Party Parliamentary Group on Hillsborough, chaired by Wirral South MP Alison McGovern, tabled an amendment to allow the IPCC to impose sanctions. But when it became clear the government would not change its position the amendment was withdrawn to allow quick passage to the bill. It had cross-party support and cleared the Commons in under four hours, receiving its second and third readings without a vote.

    Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotheram asked Mr Green: “If he will not put sanctions on the face of the bill, what confidence does he have that police forces will take the necessary action against officers that refuse to help the IPCC?”

    Mr Green said: “Given the enormous public interest around this, then the relevant chief officers will be keen to use their powers which can ultimately lead to dismissal.”

    Ms McGovern added: “Would he agree that there is a moral case that retired officers should co-operate?”

    Mr Green agreed, but said it would have been wrong to have included retired officers in an emergency bill.


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    Committee publishes report on Independent Police Complaints Commission and the Hillsborough disaster


    05 December 2012.


    The Home Affairs Committee published an interim Report ‘Power to investigate the Hillsborough disaster: interim Report on the Independent Police Complaints Commission’ on Wednesday 5 December (Tenth Report, Session 2012–13, HC 793).




    The interim report can be viewed on the following link:
    Powers to investigate the Hillsborough disaster: interim Report on the Independent Police Complaints Commission

    Committee Chair Rt. Hon Keith Vaz MP said:


    “The Home Affairs Select Committee welcomes the proposal to allow the IPCC to investigate the Hillsborough disaster and supports the Government’s intention to fast-track the legislation—justice for the bereaved families must not be further delayed.

    However, there are now a number of investigations into Hillsborough. To ensure they are conducted swiftly and effectively, we are calling on the Home Secretary to personally coordinate the work of the IPCC, the Director of Public Prosecutions and other agencies.

    This Bill gives the IPCC new powers to require serving officers to attend an interview. However, there are many retired officers out there with vital information and with cases to answer—they will not be included in these new powers.

    We are also clear that this is only the beginning of our proposed reforms for the IPCC. We will be publishing our main Report in due course.”


    Hard copies of the Report will be available through the usual outlets on Monday 10 December (HC 793).


    http://www.parliament.uk/business/co...c-interim-rpt/
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    If anybody would like to read the report link is underneath....there has been an ajournment until Tuesday 11th December which is the same day that there will be a vote in The House of Lords concering the bill,


    http://www.parliament.uk/documents/c...0-%20FINAL.pdf
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    Soz wrong quote...
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    Good Morning........please support this if you can and try and get to Anfield early next weekend and cheer these lads home......



    Liverpool FC fans gear up for Reds’ Rose Walk in memory of the Hillsborough 96



    by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo
    Dec 8 2012


    A GROUP of Liverpool FC fans from across the country are gearing up for next week’s Reds’ Rose Walk in memory of the 96 who died at Hillsborough.

    It will start at the Leppings Lane end in Sheffield at 7am on Friday and the 96-mile journey will end at Anfield’s Hillsborough Memorial around noon before next Saturday’s home game with Aston Villa.

    The route will take them via a host of other grounds along the way, including Huddersfield, Oldham, Manchester City, Bury, Bolton, Wigan and Everton.

    The walk has been split into 16 stages of around six miles with a different group of three walkers on each stage out of a core team of 12.

    Former Liverpool striker Neil Mellor and ex-rugby league star Bobbie Goulding will be on the opening leg.

    At Goodison the walkers will handover a specially commissioned banner (above) thanking the Blues for their ongoing support in the 23-year long battle for justice.

    In return they will receive the ‘Remembering the 96’ Everton shirt which will be displayed in the Liverpool museum.

    The walkers, who will lay 96 roses on the Anfield memorial, will be led by Reds fan Mike Wilson, who was on the Leppings Lane terrace along with his father David on April 15 1989.

    He came up with the idea after the release of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report.

    It has been organised to raise money for both the Hillsborough Family Support Group and the Hillsborough Justice Campaign. They have already collected nearly £7,000 and hope to double that by next weekend.

    Wilson said: “The support we’ve had has been quite humbling with local firms providing roses, transport and food.

    “As well as Liverpool and Everton, we have had offers of signed shirts from Sunderland, Bury, Crewe, Man City, Celtic, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, Crawley Town and Brighton.

    “Everyone was so amazed at the dignity that the families of the victims have displayed for 23 years and this is our way of showing support for them.”

    For further information or to offer sponsorship go to: www.fromthekop.com


    Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...#ixzz2ERneMpT8
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    Ninety-six football fans to get Hillsborough tattoos - with help from LFC's Martin Skrtel



    by Kate Forrester, Liverpool Echo
    Dec 7 2012




    NINETY-six football fans have pledged to get tattoos on the same day to raise cash for Hillsborough families – and a Liverpool FC player will also get in on the act.

    The challenge, organised by tattooist Will Holmes at Royal Ink, Anfield, will see dozens of brave fundraisers pack into the Breck Road tattoo studio to be inked.

    Among them will be Liverpool centre back Martin Skrtel, who will try his hand at tattooing on willing volunteer Barry Nicholls.



    Barry, 28, said: “I’ll be getting the Eternal Flame tattooed on my back. It will take two days and Martin Skrtel will be doing part of it.

    “We’re hoping he’ll also have a tattoo, but he will definitely be coming down to show his support.

    “The idea was thought up by staff at Royal Ink, who put out an appeal on Facebook for volunteers.

    “The list filled up extremely quickly and they’ve now put together a reserve list, in case those who have put their names down don’t turn up or hand in their donations on time.

    “All the cash we raise will go towards the Hillsborough families and fight for justice. It’s something very close to my heart, because members of my family were there on the day.

    “But it’s not just about football – it was something that shook the whole city.

    “Everyone who is taking part will have a tattoo of their own choosing, but they will all be connected to Hillsborough in some way.”

    Barry, who lives in Anfield and works for Liverpool FC, said organisers are hoping people will stump up cash support ahead of the feat, which takes place on December 16.

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    He added: “My tattoo is very big, so it will start getting done on December 14.

    “Everyone else will be there on December 16. We’re also hoping to hold a raffle on the day and are asking for prizes and items we can include.

    “Martin will be donating the shirt he will wear at Liverpool’s game against Aston Villa on December 15 and some local businesses have already offered prizes.

    “Anyone who wants to get involved can put their names down for the reserve list or pop in to the tattoo studio to donate.”

    For more information, call Royal Ink on 0151 260 6400.





    Nice one Martin......!!!!!!!




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    HILLSBOROUGH OFFICERS WARNED ABOUT GRILLING OVER TRAGEDY COVER-UP


    We have huge concerns over whether we can trust the IPCC




    Trevor Hicks


    9th December 2012


    By Jonathan Corke EXCLUSIVE



    THE Independent Police Complaints Commission has been blasted over a tip-off it gave to the police force it is now investigating over Hillsborough.




    The IPCC told South Yorkshire Police about a statement it was due to make on revelations over the force’s cover-up of the disaster.




    The forewarning from the deputy chairman of the IPCC came the day *after the Hillsborough Independent Panel delivered its devastating verdict.




    As pressure mounted on the *authorities to launch a criminal probe into the findings, Deborah Glass gave Chief Constable David Crompton *details of a statement to be put out by the IPCC.




    In an email at 3.30pm on September 13, Mrs Glass thanked him for sending her a copy of a force statement.




    She then included the IPCC’s own statement which said the report had raised “extremely serious and *troubling issues for the police”.




    It said it was reviewing the contents and intended to “liaise with the *relevant parties to identify what should be *investigated, and by whom”.




    Emails obtained by the Daily Star Sunday show Mr Crompton acted *immediately by sending the statement on to senior colleagues, including at least one involved in the policing at Hillsborough. Mr Crompton wrote: “FYI. We now need to determine what/who needs referring.”





    A colleague later replied, saying a “good starting point” would be an *assessment being carried out by an *unnamed official ahead of a police *authority meeting.




    The IPCC put out its statement around half an hour after Mrs Glass’ email to Mr Crompton.




    The complaints body has since launched its biggest-ever investigation into around 2,400 officers.




    Last night Trevor Hicks, who lost two daughters in the 1989 tragedy, said: “We have huge concerns over whether we can trust the IPCC and this is a clear example of why that trust is going to take an awful long time to build.”




    Margaret Aspinall, chairman of the Hillsborough Family Support Group, said: “In 23 years we have never been afforded the same courtesy.”




    The panel’s report was seen as a great victory for the families of the 96 victims who had long suspected a cover-up of events at Sheffield.




    The report revealed police had altered statements to remove negative *comments about the policing, lies had been spread about Liverpool fans to try to deflect blame and as many as 41 *victims could have been saved.




    Other documents show South Yorkshire Police put together a *desperate public relations strategy to try to limit damage ahead of the *report.




    The papers show that:




    *Eight days before the report was *released, a senior team involving the Chief Constable were working on a statement to put out.




    *Assistant Chief Constable Andy Holt spoke to former force employee Sir Norman Bettison to get his account of his involvement in the disaster.




    *The Chief Constable told senior *colleagues some interviews would be “more friendly” and thought should beSClB given to “which questions we would ideally like them to ask”.




    *Five days before the report, a file *featuring the views of 22 MPs on issues surrounding Hillsborough was sent to the Chief Constable.




    *The following day he proposed *working on “FAQs which suit our case and then add/amend in the light of the HIP report”.




    *Staff obtained insider knowledge from the BBC on who would *present Newsnight on the day of the report.




    Liverpool MP Steve Rotheram, whose comments on *Hillsborough had been noted in the file sent to the Chief *Constable, said: “It still seems there is an element of Big Brother trying to control the whole agenda.”




    South Yorkshire Police said it wrote to all serving and retired officers involved in Hillsborough and “spoke personally with key individuals likely to be *approached by the media, to inform them about the disclosure process.”




    It said: “Sir Norman Bettison was one of the individuals informed of the *disclosure process and archive launch, including that as a senior officer still serving he may be asked about his role on the day and afterwards.”




    The IPCC said: “We believe it is *appropriate for those directly involved in our considerations or investigations – whether they be complainants, next-of-kin or police forces – to know about our public statements shortly before they appear in the media wherever possible.”



    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view...gedy-cover-up/
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    Good Morning....

    Looks as though the fast track law to help the IPCC is in the morning you can watch it on Parliament TV ......



    Parliamentary business for Tuesday 11 December 2012



    House of Lords

    Legislation
    Police (Complaints and Conduct) Bill - Second reading - Lord Taylor of Holbeach




    Legislation
    Police (Complaints and Conduct) Bill - Committee of the whole House - Lord Taylor of Holbeach




    Legislation
    Police (Complaints and Conduct) Bill - Report stage - Lord Taylor of Holbeach




    Legislation
    Police (Complaints and Conduct) Bill - Third reading - Lord Taylor of Holbeach
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    Absolutley brilliant news......at long last.........




    Anne Williams' joy as Attorney General prepares to quash original Hillsborough inquest verdicts



    Dan Kay and David Bartlett
    Dec 10 2012


    Anne Williams, who has campaigned tirelessly for justice for the 96





    THE definitive application to quash the original Hillsborough inquests is set to be made today or tomorrow by the Attorney General.

    The accidental death verdicts, which have for 23 years prevented any meaningful inquiry into the lack of care received by the 96 Liverpool fans who lost their lives in Sheffield, have been reviewed by the Attorney General Dominic Grieve in the wake of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report's findings.

    His application to the High Court will seek to quash the original verdict - paving the way for new inquests.

    Anne Williams, who has campaigned tirelessly for over two decades to get justice for her 15-year-old son Kevin, received the news that her fourth memorial to the Attorney General was likely to prove successful from her solicitor Elkan Abrahamson.

    Anne said, "I am buzzing - I'm over the moon that it's finally happened.

    "This document is what I've been fighting the system to get hold of for 23 years.



    "I can't believe I've finally got it here in front of me in black and white.

    "I just keep looking at the words over and over again in case I'm seeing things or reading it wrong.

    "I've had all this evidence for a long time and presented it to previous Attorney Generals, who didn't do their job properly and rejected it for supposedly 'not being in the interests of justice'.

    "It is terrible how this has gone on for so long but the main thing is the right things are now happening.

    "I just hope there isn't too much red tape involved and they are able to set a date for Kevin's inquest soon."

    The Attorney General's office confirmed he hoped to lodge the papers today or tomorrow.


    Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...#ixzz2EfZxc8l7



    J.F.T.96.............

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    THE ATTORNEY General has today applied to the High Court for new inquests to be held into the deaths of the 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster.

    Dominic Grieve has lodged papers to quash the original “accidental death” verdicts which have for 23 years prevented any meaningful inquiry into the lack of care received by the 96 Liverpool fans who lost their lives in Sheffield.

    Mr Grieve said: “I believe that the case for the High Court to quash the original inquests is a good one.

    “My application has now been lodged with the Court. It is my intention to appear to argue the case at the hearing that will take place in the High Court.”


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    Brilliant news about the application to quash the inquests.
    Hopefully it won't be too long before the 96 get a proper inquest and the real reason for their unnecessary deaths put on their death Certs.

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    Brilliant news about the application to quash the inquests.
    Hopefully it won't be too long before the 96 get a proper inquest and the real reason for their unnecessary deaths put on their death Certs.

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    It is isn't it Tweeps........

    can't imagine what Anne and all the other families must be feeling tonight after all this time....let's hope the Lord Justice gives his ok and then get's it moving asap.....

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    Anne Williams
    I have recieved the fi-at from the Attorney general giving me permission to go to the divisional courts to seek a new inquest into the death of kevin Daniel Williams, i can not believe seeing it in black and white, i have waited 23 yrs for this, just waiting for Attorney General to go public. JUSTICE For All.
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    Attorney General makes application for fresh Hillsborough inquests
    10 December 2012
    The Attorney General, Dominic Grieve QC MP has today made an application to the High Court for new inquests to be held into the deaths of the 96 victims of the Hillsborough tragedy.

    The Attorney General said:

    "I believe that the case for the High Court to quash the original inquests is a good one. My application has now been lodged with the Court. It is my intention to appear to argue the case at the hearing that will take place in the High Court."

    The application aims to meet tests set out in Section 13 of the Coroners Act, the most relevant of which are the discovery of new facts or evidence and that it is necessary or desirable in the interests of justice that new inquests should be held.

    The principal ground for the application is the new medical evidence. The alteration to police and emergency services evidence is a supporting factor as is stadium safety.

    The views of the families were sought before filing this Application. All support the quashing of the inquests and the ordering of new ones. The coroners for South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire (in the case of Anthony Bland) were also contacted and support the application.

    The Court will now fix a date for hearing. The timing of this is a matter for the Court.

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    Mr Grieve’s application is based on the findings of the Hillsborough Independent Panel, which found that 41 fans had the “potential to survive” beyond original coroner Stefan Popper’s 3.15pm cut-off point.

    The main ground for the application is the new medical evidence.

    A supporting factor is also the panel’s revelation that police and ambulance service statements were changed to shift blame onto fans.

    The safety record of Sheffield Wednesday’s Hillsborough stadium is also another supporting element.






    Hillsborough inquest High Court hearing must be held by Christmas, say families

    by David Bartlett, Liverpool Echo
    Dec 11 2012







    HILLSBOROUGH families today called for a High Court hearing to quash the inquest verdicts of the 96 victims of the disaster to be held before Christmas.

    Yesterday attorney general Dominic Grieve made an historic application to the High Court for new inquests to be held into the deaths of the 96 fans who died in the 1989 tragedy.

    The families said they were “over the moon” with the announcement, but called for the hearing to be heard before Christmas.


    Margaret Aspinall, chair of Hillsborough Family Support Group, said: “This is a major milestone, it is the main thing that the families have wanted for such a long time.

    “It is great that the application has now gone in, we just hope that it is this side of Christmas.”

    There are just 10 days left before the High Court rises for its three-week end of year break.

    A spokeswoman for the High Court said: “The hearing will be listed as soon as possible. It is not yet known at this stage whether it will be before Christmas.”

    The Lord Chief Justice has told MPs Steve Rotheram, Andy Burnham, and Maria Eagle that the case is being treated as a “matter of urgency”.

    The original “accidental death” verdicts have prevented any meaningful inquiry into the lack of care received by the 96 Liverpool fans who lost their lives in Sheffield.

    Separate to this own application, Mr Grieve also granted permission to Anne Williams to apply for a fresh inquest for her 15-year-old son Kevin who lost his life at Hillsborough.

    Anne, who has campaigned tirelessly and is now terminally ill, has had three previous attempts rejected. She had applied for permission to the attorney general before the panel’s findings were released.

    She said: “I am buzzing – I’m over the moon that it’s finally happened.

    “This document is what I’ve been fighting the system to get hold of for 23 years.

    “I can’t believe I’ve finally got it here in front of me in black and white.

    “I just keep looking at the words over and over again in case I’m seeing things or reading it wrong.

    “I’ve had all this evidence for a long time and presented it to previous attorney generals, who didn’t do their job properly and rejected it for supposedly ‘not being in the interests of justice’.

    “It is terrible how this has gone on for so long but the main thing is the right things are now happening.

    “I just hope there isn’t too much red tape involved and they are able to set a date for Kevin’s inquest soon.”


    Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/2012/...#ixzz2EjM4KYUI


    Mr Grieve said: “I believe that the case for the High Court to quash the original inquests is a good one.

    “My application has now been lodged with the Court. It is my intention to appear to argue the case at the hearing that will take place in the High Court.”

    The views of the families were sought before filing the application, and all support the quashing of the inquests and the ordering of new ones.

    The coroners for South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire (in the case of Tony Bland, who died in 1993 when his life support machine was switched off) were also contacted and support the application.

    Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotheram, who was instrumental in setting up the Hillsborough Independent Panel, said: “For the hearing to be before Christmas would be an unbelievable present for the families.”

    He said the attorney general had been painstaking to make sure there were no mistakes in the submission.

    “This is a massive step. The persistence and dignity that the families have shown over the last 23 and a half years has been inspiring. Today is their day.

    “They know the fight isn’t over, but that they have moved a giant step closer to finishing the job and finally achieving justice for the 96.”


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    Come on Lord Justice you can do this if you really want to, the families have already waited too long.........


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    Hillsborough High Court inquests hearing set for Wednesday December 19




    Dec 12 2012


    A HEARING to decide whether the original discredited Hillsborough inquest verdicts should be overturned will be held in the High Court before Christmas.

    The Lord Chief Justice Lord Judge and two other judges will consider the application by Attorney General Dominic Grieve at the Royal Courts of Justice in London on Wednesday December 19.

    * Read More - Anne Williams: I believe I'll live to see justice

    It is not yet known how soon the inquests could follow if the bid is successful.

    Earlier this week Hillsborough families called for the hearing to take place this year.

    Today they said they welcomed the news that by this time next week they should know whether the fight for justice will take another crucial step.

    Anne Williams, who lost her son Kevin in the tragedy, said she was hoping to attend the hearing.

    She added: "I spoke to my barrister last night about it. We did want the hearing to be held in Liverpool but it is going to be in The Strand in London.

    "But we are not going to argue because that would only hold it up."

    Margaret Aspinall, whose son James was killed in the crush at the Sheffield stadium, added: "We were keen to have it before Christmas but we did not think it would be this early."

    A spokesman for the Judicial Office confirmed the date of the hearing and said at this stage no decision on the location of where the inquests would eventually be held could be made.

    The news came at the same time that emergency laws compelling police officers to give evidence to the Hillsborough investigation were set to receive Royal Assent.

    The Police (Complaints and Conduct) Bill completed its passage through Parliament last night after being approved by peers in the House of Lords, a week after being approved by MPs in the Commons.

    The law will compel serving officers or staff on other police bodies to attend an interview with the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

    The law also means the IPCC will have the ability to re-investigate matters already considered by the Police Complaints Authority (PCA), in "exceptional circumstances".

    Speakers in the House of Lords included Lord Falconer, the barrister working pro bono for the Hillsborough Family Support Group and the Bishop of Liverpool, the Right Reverend James Jones, who led the independent panel which reported on the tragedy.

    Bishop James told the Lords: "If members of our family had died on April 15, 1989, we would not have wanted to wait 23 years until truth could call out for justice.

    "If we can put ourselves into the shoes of the Hillsborough families, then the journey of justice must not now be a long and winding road."

    "The families know that justice delayed is justice denied. The panel’s work is now complete; we owe it to the memory of the 96 to ensure that the next stage is done in a just and timely manner. In short, the journey from truth to justice must itself be just in order to deliver true justice for the 96."

    Also speaking were Lord Alton of Liverpool and city peer Lord Rennard, who said people in Liverpool were right to ask why previous governments did not act more decisively to ensure that the truth, well known in the city, was widely known nationally.

    He said: "How can it have taken 23 years to get to this point? Why have police officers not been compelled to give evidence in such cases until now? And is it right that evidence about the death of 96 people cannot necessarily be taken, even with these proposals, from people who have retired or resigned from the police?

    "This Bill is very necessary.

    "The report of the Hillsborough Independent Panel has been universally accepted, although some of those responsible for the defamation of those who died have yet to accept any proper responsibility for what they did at the time, and some of those who colluded in decisions not to let the truth emerge have yet to explain.

    "There is now widespread agreement in all major parties that confidence in the police needs to be restored by looking carefully at all the issues surrounding how we police the police?"


    Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/2012/...#ixzz2EpoLdGJw



    Let's hope the decision from The Lord Justice on the 19th is the best Christmas present the families could have......
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    1:15pm, Wed 12 Dec 2012Move to quash Hillsborough verdicts
    Update on independent Hillsborough investigation
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    The police watchdoghas begun consulting families for its independent investigation into the aftermath of the Hillsborough tragedy.

    The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) is examining:

    · The amendments to statements – who ordered it, who knew about it, who was involved in the process, and was pressure put on individual officers?

    · The allegations that misleading information was passed to the media, MPs, Parliament and Inquiries in an apparent attempt to deflect blame from the police on to the fans.

    · The actions of police officers after the disaster, including the questioning of next of kin about alcohol consumption, the checking of blood alcohol levels and the undertaking of Police National Computer checks on the dead and injured;

    · The role of West Midlands Police and those who led that investigation into the disaster.

    IPCC Deputy Chair Deborah Glass, who is leading the investigation, said:

    "I have met the Hillsborough Family Support Group and the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, and written to all the other families who asked to be updated to advise them of the progress of our investigation and share the terms of reference. I have stressed that these terms of reference will be kept under review as the investigation progresses and have made it clear that we welcome their comments.

    ‘In relation to the future investigation into the tragic deaths of ninety-six people as a result of the disaster, I welcome the announcement by the Attorney-General that he has applied to the High Court to quash the inquest verdicts. We now await the decision of the High Court, as well as the review of the evidence being led by the Director of Public Prosecutions, and the appointment of someone to lead this investigation, which will have to look at the actions of many agencies, not just the police. We will be involved with that investigation too, in relation to the role of the police. We and the DPP are absolutely committed to making sure that the work on the investigation into the aftermath, and the investigation into the deaths, is fully integrated.

    "I have also made clear to the families that I understand the desire many of them have for independent scrutiny of what we are doing. While the IPCC and the Director of Public Prosecutions are independent bodies, we are not only coordinating closely, we are also discussing setting up a challenge group of independent people who can scrutinise the work of both organisations to satisfy themselves about the progress, independence and robustness of the work. We have asked the groups to suggest some names to us, and we will also be approaching others.

    Ms Glass has also given more information on the progress of the independent investigation.

    She said: "We have now secured a suitable office in Warrington, which is large enough to support both the IPCC's ongoing investigation and the future investigation into the deaths, and store all of the documentation that is relevant to both inquiries. We need to put the technical and IT support into the new building to resource fully the task of putting the documents into a format needed for criminal investigation. In the meantime we have set up a Major Incident Room in our current office in Sale, so this process can begin immediately, and we will be launching a major recruitment campaign early in the new year.

    In terms of the scale of the investigation Ms Glass explained: "At present we have a list of 1,444 names provided by South Yorkshire Police covering officers who were apparently on duty at Hillsborough, who responded to the disaster or who were involved in the aftermath. In addition we are aware that 30 more police forces or police related bodies had officers or staff who played some kind of role in relation to Hillsborough – that covers more than 400 officers. And we are aware there may be more officers whose details we have not had yet, particularly from West Midlands Police. So we estimate we will have in excess of 2,000 names to analyse.

    "Work is ongoing analysing the documentation and identifying what other documentation is in existence and who holds it. The Hillsborough Independent Panel did an extraordinary job in putting information into the public domain which added immeasurably to public understanding and dispelled myths that existed for 23 years. While we will build on the Panel's work, the IPCC has a very different task: to conduct a criminal and misconduct investigation which would stand up to legal scrutiny in potential future criminal trials or misconduct proceedings.

    "We know, of course, that the documents already on the Panel website amount to 450,000 pages, a significant task in itself. At present it is difficult to quantify whether other documentation exists that may be relevant to a criminal or misconduct investigation but is not on the Panel website. We are working with the Hillsborough Independent Panel, South Yorkshire Police and other organisations in relation to this. Our work so far indicates there are more documents in existence and we will need to identify and examine them to determine whether they have any relevance to our investigation.

    Ms Glass added: ”I understand that many people want to see quick action after all these years. But completing the full picture for the families of those who died, those who were injured and those who were traumatised by the terrible events at Hillsborough is not going to be a quick or easy process. We are making real progress, and within the next month we expect that the shape and integration of this complex and multi-faceted investigation will be clearer. The scale and complexity mean that we have to put the right foundations in place. We don't want to replicate those previous investigations and reviews that came to quick, but incomplete or inaccurate, conclusions.”


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    Really pleased to see that the IPCC and DPP have reconsidered on this point as they didn't seem that happy about an independent person/body scrutinizing their ongoing investigations when they were called to give evidence a couple of weeks ago at The Select Committe meeting.....
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    Good Morning........please support this if you can and try and get to Anfield early next weekend and cheer these lads home......



    Liverpool FC fans gear up for Reds’ Rose Walk in memory of the Hillsborough 96



    by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo
    Dec 8 2012


    A GROUP of Liverpool FC fans from across the country are gearing up for next week’s Reds’ Rose Walk in memory of the 96 who died at Hillsborough.

    It will start at the Leppings Lane end in Sheffield at 7am on Friday and the 96-mile journey will end at Anfield’s Hillsborough Memorial around noon before next Saturday’s home game with Aston Villa.

    The route will take them via a host of other grounds along the way, including Huddersfield, Oldham, Manchester City, Bury, Bolton, Wigan and Everton.

    The walk has been split into 16 stages of around six miles with a different group of three walkers on each stage out of a core team of 12.

    Former Liverpool striker Neil Mellor and ex-rugby league star Bobbie Goulding will be on the opening leg.

    At Goodison the walkers will handover a specially commissioned banner (above) thanking the Blues for their ongoing support in the 23-year long battle for justice.

    In return they will receive the ‘Remembering the 96’ Everton shirt which will be displayed in the Liverpool museum.

    The walkers, who will lay 96 roses on the Anfield memorial, will be led by Reds fan Mike Wilson, who was on the Leppings Lane terrace along with his father David on April 15 1989.

    He came up with the idea after the release of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report.

    It has been organised to raise money for both the Hillsborough Family Support Group and the Hillsborough Justice Campaign. They have already collected nearly £7,000 and hope to double that by next weekend.

    Wilson said: “The support we’ve had has been quite humbling with local firms providing roses, transport and food.

    “As well as Liverpool and Everton, we have had offers of signed shirts from Sunderland, Bury, Crewe, Man City, Celtic, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, Crawley Town and Brighton.

    “Everyone was so amazed at the dignity that the families of the victims have displayed for 23 years and this is our way of showing support for them.”

    For further information or to offer sponsorship go to: www.fromthekop.com


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    Don't forget this today and try and get down early and cheer them home they are expected to arrive at Anfield at noon.....then time for a pint afterwards before the game.....
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    Liverpool FC fans walk 96 miles from Hillsborough to Anfield in memory (GALLERY)



    by Daniel Johnson, Liverpool Echo
    Dec 17 2012

    News @ Anfield Road, L4 -Saturday, December 15, 2012More than 20 people took part in the Red Rose Walk from Hillsborough's Leppings Lane end to Liverpool's Anfield Road in order to help raise money for the Hillsborough FamiliesPhoto by James Maloney





    LIVERPOOL FC fans walked 96 miles from Hillsborough to Anfield in memory of the 96 who died in the 1989 tragedy.

    The Reds’ Rose Walk began at the Leppings Lane end in Sheffield at 7am on Friday and ended at Anfield’s Hillsborough Memorial at noon on Saturday, just before the home game with Aston Villa.




    The Red Rose Walk from Hillsborough's Leppings Lane to Liverpool's Anfield Road. Pics James Maloney

    Dec 16 2012


    At Goodison, on the way, the walkers handed over a specially commissioned banner thanking Everton for their continuing support in the 23-year fight for justice.

    They were presented with a “Remembering the 96” Everton shirt, which is to be put on display in the Liverpool museum.

    A collection of 96 roses were also laid at the Anfield memorial on Saturday.

    The group were led by Reds fan Mike Wilson, 47, who was on the Leppings Lane terrace along with his father David, 81, on April 15, 1989.

    Mike said: “When we got to Anfield, the support there was fantastic. It was a really humbling experience.

    “It is emotional for all of us. Before the start of the walk, we made a point of saying the names of all the 96 that we lost.

    “Everyone was so amazed at the dignity that the families of the victims have displayed for 23 years and this is our way of showing support for them.”

    Mike came up with the idea for the walk after the Hillsborough Independent Panel report.

    So far, more than £12,000 has been raised for the Hillsborough Family Support Group and the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, and Mike is optimistic they will reach their £15,000 target.

    Along the route they visited a host of other grounds including Huddersfield, Oldham, Manchester City, Bury, Bolton, Wigan and Everton, and were also joined by ex-LFC players Dominic Matteo and Neil Mellor.

    Ex-Great Britain Rugby League star Bobbie Goulding also joined the team with his two sons, both at Warrington Wolves.

    The walk was split into 16 stages of roughly six miles.


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    Hillsborough families prepare for historic court hearing to quash inquest verdicts

    by David Bartlett, Liverpool Echo
    Dec 18 2012





    DOZENS of families will travel to London tomorrow for a historic court hearing which is set to quash the discredited Hillsborough inquest verdicts.

    The court is also looking into a request from Hillsborough Justice Campaign lawyer Elkan Abrahamson to screen the hearing in Liverpool via a video link.

    The Lord Chief Justice, Lord Igor Judge, and two other justices sitting at London’s Royal Courts of Justice will hear the application to overturn the accidental death verdicts returned in the wake of the 1989 disaster.

    The application, made by the Attorney General, Dominic Grieve, QC, is not expected to be opposed and the prospect of an adjournment is thought to be unlikely.




    Hillsborough disaster families are still unclear about when fresh inquests would be heard, although the judges could set out a basic timetable.

    Barrister Pete Wetherby, QC, will be allowed to make an application on behalf of Anne Williams, who lost her son, Kevin.



    Anne said: “All being well, I'll be travelling down with Charlotte Hennessy – who lost her father, James, at Hillsborough – my brother, and also Stevie Hart and Ian Barnes who've given me such great support for so long.

    "I've waited 23 years to see these accidental death verdicts struck down – hopefully this is the first real step towards getting the justice we've been fighting for all this time.

    "The last time we came out of the High Court after losing the Judicial Review in 1993, we were all in tears after being stitched up. Let's hope we'll have big smiles on Wednesday."

    The Hillsborough Family Support Group (HFSG) has organised a coach to take more than 30 families, while the Hillsborough Justice Campaign has sorted out train travel for about a dozen people.

    Margaret Aspinall, the chair of HFSG, who lost her son, James, and will be attending the court, said: “I am feeling quite positive.



    “There’s no decision they can make except to quash the verdicts.

    “We have been disappointed in the past, but now everybody has be seen to be doing the right thing, and that is to quash the verdict.

    “I am hoping the families get the good news before they travel back.”

    Mr Abrahamson said he had asked for the video link to be set up to avoid a scrum of people trying to get into a packed court room.

    Video could also be streamed to another room at the Royal Courts of Justice, as well as Liverpool, although it is not yet known whether it will be possible.

    “It is quite clear that the court is going to want to get this done and dusted on Wednesday.”

    Mr Grieve’s application is based on the findings of the Hillsborough Independent Panel, which found that 41 fans had the “potential to survive” beyond original coroner Stefan Popper’s 3.15pm cut-off point.

    The main ground for the application is the new medical evidence.

    A supporting factor is also the panel’s revelation that police and ambulance service statements were changed to shift blame onto fans.


    Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...#ixzz2FPoN0gsC



    Can't wait for tommorow....


    Good Luck to the families for tommorow......


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    Hillsborough at the High Court - follow live updates from 10am



    By Neil Macdonald
    Dec 18 2012



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    THE Attourney General's appeal to overturn the Hillsborough inquest verdicts will be heard in the High Court in London on Wednesday - and from 10am onwards we will have live updates from the court.

    Log on below to follow the news as it happens and have your say too, as Dominic Grieve's application is heard.


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    Keeping Hillsborough at the top of the news agenda

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    Dec 18 2012


    THIS week there are two powerful reminders that the story of Hillsborough has changed dramatically.

    It changed on September 12, with the publication of the Hillsborough Independent Panel’s report, which exposed to the world the lies and the cover-up that had held sway for more than 23 years.

    And since then, the campaign for justice to follow the truth has been likened to a runaway juggernaut – absolutely unstoppable.

    Yesterday, the world and his wife began queueing up to buy copies of The Justice Collective’s single He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My Brother – which should surely be this year’s Christmas number one.




    And tomorrow, Attorney General Dominic Grieve QC will go to the Royal Courts of Justice and explain to the Lord Chief Justice Lord Igor Judge and two other judges why he believes the original Hillsborough inquest verdicts should be quashed.

    It has been suggested the hearing could take just an hour (a very short time in the legal world), although we would respectfully suggest it could be dealt with in a minute.

    And the importance of striking out the accidental death verdicts cannot be overemphasised. As Margaret Aspinall, chair of the Hillsborough Family Support Group, told the ECHO days before the Panel’s report was published: “We don’t want anything with ‘accident’ in it because it wasn’t an accident.”

    Hillsborough has remained in the headlines since September 12 – and this week’s events will ensure it continues to remain at the top of the news agenda.


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    Just to say a Very Merry Christmas to all.


    Sorry for not updating the thread during the last week but have been really busy and flu in the family...Promise I will do it after Christmas.....

    It's been an amazing week and a No.1 to make the perfect finish.

    Thanks to all for all your help on this long road to Justice but there is light at the end of the tunnel now.....


    Have a wonderful time and thoughts and Christmas wishes to all the families and suvivours....JFT.96

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