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  1. #1 Default Do any older fans remember referee Clive Thomas? 
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    I was just reading about famous people from where I used to live for a about 15 years and realized he came from the same town (Treorchy, Wales).

    I've heard about when he denied Zico a stoppage time winner in the 1978 World Cup, but I didn't realize he had a few other controversial incidents, a couple involving Liverpool!
    At the European Championship of 1976 in Yugoslavia, Thomas was the referee of the semi-final between Czechoslovakia and Holland. In the extra time of that match, he failed to notice a rough foul by Antonín Panenka on Johan Cruyff, after which Zdenek Nehoda was able to score the decisive goal.

    Thomas drew the ire of Everton fans when, during a 1977 FA Cup semi-final against city rivals Liverpool, he disallowed a late goal, also from Bryan Hamilton, which seemed legitimate and had gone largely uncontested by even the Liverpool supporters, and would have taken Everton to the cup final as 3-2 winners.[5]

    He also blew the final whistle seconds before Zico of Brazil scored what would have been the winning goal from a corner in a 1978 World Cup match against Sweden.[6] He was also strongly opposed to extravagant goal celebrations, going so far as to break up celebrations and order players back to their positions for the re-start.

    In the 1981 League Cup Final, Thomas allowed a goal from Liverpool defender Alan Kennedy 2 minutes from the end of extra time despite the fact that Sammy Lee, lying in an offside position, had to move his head to avoid being hit by the ball.
    I've never been prouder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sridhar-Sarnobat View Post
    I was just reading about famous people from where I used to live for a about 15 years and realized he came from the same town (Treorchy, Wales).

    I've heard about when he denied Zico a stoppage time winner in the 1978 World Cup, but I didn't realize he had a few other controversial incidents, a couple involving Liverpool!


    I've never been prouder
    Clive should be invited onto the pitch at Anfield before the derby to receive the applause of the Liverpool faithful.
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    Ah, the blues loved him.......They still talk about him now!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty44 View Post
    Ah, the blues loved him.......They still talk about him now!!
    It's compulsory.
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    He once stated on Football Focus that encroachment at free kicks was the worst possible offence in football. He was serious and also a total ****

    He used to run his own company in South Wales in the 1990s and a friend of mine went to work for him. He asked CT what should he call him, "Clive" or "Mr Thomas". CT answered "God"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAFFYFROG View Post
    He once stated on Football Focus that encroachment at free kicks was the worst possible offence in football. He was serious and also a total ****

    He used to run his own company in South Wales in the 1990s and a friend of mine went to work for him. He asked CT what should he call him, "Clive" or "Mr Thomas". CT answered "God"
    In a way it's refreshing to hear this. He could beat some manners into the 21st century footballer.

    BTW - Taffyfrog - is your username a play on words or something? Whenever I glance at it it sounds like the name of my old street down in good old Treorchy.
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    He had a strange little gimmick when he blew the whistle to start the game....he sort of lifted one leg in the air and pointed sky wards.
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    A referee who wanted to be the centre of attention.

    Sounds like a massive ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabyDoesGallas View Post
    A referee who wanted to be the centre of attention.

    Sounds like a massive ****.
    Won't find many Liverpudlians saying that.....now Evertonians, that's a different matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sridhar-Sarnobat View Post
    In a way it's refreshing to hear this. He could beat some manners into the 21st century footballer.

    BTW - Taffyfrog - is your username a play on words or something? Whenever I glance at it it sounds like the name of my old street down in good old Treorchy.
    Nah, Taffy because I am Welsh and Frog is my nickname amongst my mates. I couldn't register as Frog as someone else already had the name

    I haven't been up to Treorchy for a while, the last time I was there it was shut! A typically cruddy Welsh valleys town but the people are brilliant, although like most Welsh people they tend to be suspicious of strangers (despite the fact that if you do your research you find about a third are descendants of Irish migrant workers who went to work in the mines in the 1800s and early 1900s, 10% are Italian descendants who came to Wales at that time and opened cafe's (quite serious), and 20%+ are descendants from English economic migrants but they deny it
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabyDoesGallas View Post
    A referee who wanted to be the centre of attention.

    Sounds like a massive ****.
    He was a penis.
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    He sounds like our very own Howard Webb (to Everton supporters).
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    Remember the Brazil incident, it's still an unwritten law that you don't blow for full time when a corner is coming in.

    As for the League Cup Final goal, was my first Liverpool match, nothing wrong with Barney's goal for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAFFYFROG View Post
    He once stated on Football Focus that encroachment at free kicks was the worst possible offence in football. He was serious and also a total ****

    He used to run his own company in South Wales in the 1990s and a friend of mine went to work for him. He asked CT what should he call him, "Clive" or "Mr Thomas". CT answered "God"
    That reminds me of the story about Prince Andrew joining his first ship and meeting the captain.
    "I'm the Prince Andrew but you can call me Andrew."
    "And you can call me sir," replied the captain.

    I always liked Clive Thomas as a referee. Not sure he sounds like a great boss, though.
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    Gave Forest a pen against us in 78 which never was and it was outside the box and then the nobhead disallowed a good goal by Terry Mac

    Think it was him, unless it was George Courtney

    Either way they were both nobheads
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    I've seen the Brazil Italy thing where he blows just before the ball gets nodded in.

    Balls of steel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylesbyred View Post
    Gave Forest a pen against us in 78 which never was and it was outside the box and then the nobhead disallowed a good goal by Terry Mac

    Think it was him, unless it was George Courtney

    Either way they were both nobheads
    It was Pat Partridge
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    It was Pat Partridge
    was it ? are you sure ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylesbyred View Post
    was it ? are you sure ?
    The League Cup Final?

    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylesbyred View Post
    was it ? are you sure ?
    oh !
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    The League Cup Final?

    Yes
    well he was a nobhead too then lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylesbyred View Post
    Gave Forest a pen against us in 78 which never was and it was outside the box and then the nobhead disallowed a good goal by Terry Mac

    Think it was him, unless it was George Courtney

    Either way they were both nobheads
    Think this was a guy called Pat Partridge who always seemed to do LFC over -a sort of Webb of his day. Only joking!!!

    Loved Thomas-he was cut from WC refs list for rest of tournament after that Bra-Swe game. He was a ref in a mans game and had the ****** to stand up to criticism and wouldnt have hidden in todays game. He'd have put the wimps who play the game today in there place with the mealy mouthed comments and rolling round antics. Refs were real characters but professional in attitude but paid a pittance.

    Best ref was Jack Taylor. He had real Kudos.

    Didnt read rest of thread-durrr! Sorry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAFFYFROG View Post
    He once stated on Football Focus that encroachment at free kicks was the worst possible offence in football.
    This is actually the one footballing thing that get's me ranting and raving more than anything else. So I'm that guy that's swearing off his face when everyone else is anxiously awaiting the taking of a spot kick.
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    Clive Thomas may have been a bit controversial but I've always agreed with all of his decisions except the 1981 league cup one.
    Sammy Lee was shoved to the ground in the attack and it was a foul but he played on and sammy was about to get up when Terry Mac came forward and shot.
    He got back down again sharpish hoping not to be deemed offside and it worked.

    Brazil were told by Clive Thomas that he would only give them time for a quick corner but they started messing around and taking time so he blew as soon as the ball was back in play.
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    He was a good Ref. So was fellow welshman Keith Cooper too.
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    I seem to remember that he was so keen on cautioning players that he was nicknamed 'The Book'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HibsOneLiverpoolNil View Post
    He had a strange little gimmick when he blew the whistle to start the game....he sort of lifted one leg in the air and pointed sky wards.
    Like this guy?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMK74OX63sU
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    remember him very well and the disallowed goal against everton he had quite a reputation at the time a very controversial chap better than some of todays rubbish refs though
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoDogsRichard View Post
    I seem to remember that he was so keen on cautioning players that he was nicknamed 'The Book'.
    ...if you smell what "The Book" is cooking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy2 View Post

    Ha ha...no not quite as light on his feet as that fella.
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