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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    I think the fact he wasn't playing and was having issues with Klopp meant his value was in the toilet, but it really didn't take long for him to be playing well and i think i'm right in saying he's been mooted as a possible Palace player of the season?

    I'll be honest, i've never really rated Lovren - perhaps i'm too harsh on him.

    Whether we get our 30m for Sakho is debatable, but i do think if we stuck Lovren on the market we'd struggle to shift him
    We struggled to shift Sakho too. I'm fairly confident we'd have sold if a good offer had been forthcoming and Sakho clearly didn't really fancy any of the loan offers he was getting. Just at the end of the window we managed to get him out the door - to a team struggling badly at the foot of the table.

    As I said, I think it's quite possible that if Lovren and Sakho's roles had been reversed the situation would not be hugely different - Lovren would look better elsewhere and we'd quite possibly still be looking for a new partner for Matip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    We struggled to shift Sakho too. I'm fairly confident we'd have sold if a good offer had been forthcoming and Sakho clearly didn't really fancy any of the loan offers he was getting. Just at the end of the window we managed to get him out the door - to a team struggling badly at the foot of the table.

    As I said, I think it's quite possible that if Lovren and Sakho's roles had been reversed the situation would not be hugely different - Lovren would look better elsewhere and we'd quite possibly still be looking for a new partner for Matip.
    I might be imagining this - but was there talk that WBA ofered 20m for him but he turned them down?

    Paper talk Obs but i can't even remember if that was a rumour
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    I might be imagining this - but was there talk that WBA ofered 20m for him but he turned them down?

    Paper talk Obs but i can't even remember if that was a rumour
    Dunno mate. Faint ringing of bells that they expressed interest but as to how far that went...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    Dunno mate. Faint ringing of bells that they expressed interest but as to how far that went...?
    he's big, he's red, he'll come and paint your house
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    I think he'll fetch a higher price in the premier league, and thats what we're all about - getting as much money as possible. Lets assume for a second that Palace would pay the 30m, i'm really not sure say Roma (a club previously linked) would go anywhere near that figure
    You're right, I just can't face him inevitably turning into Franco Baresi on Steroids twice a season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fowlers2atgrayskull View Post
    You're right, I just can't face him inevitably turning into Franco Baresi on Steroids twice a season.
    Sakho to Benteke, Benteke to Sakho, Sakho with the bicycle kick into the top corner to round off his hatrick
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    Sakho to Benteke, Benteke to Sakho, Sakho with the bicycle kick into the top corner to round off his hatrick
    Fat Sam's smug face. I feel sick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris-Lledrod View Post
    True.

    Reviving a thread that could have died last Sunday- by commenting on it- isn't the best way around putting it to bed, is it?

    ...considering the context of your post, you've ironically made it a topic again.

    Has this been done to death? Evidently not, if it were up to you...
    Your post contained three sentences. Each one ended with a question mark. And you criticize me for commenting on it!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    I might be imagining this - but was there talk that WBA ofered 20m for him but he turned them down?

    Paper talk Obs but i can't even remember if that was a rumour
    Isn't much though "talk", "reported", "rumoured", the safest assumption to make is we won't know how much he'll fetch until he's signed (IF he does) although usually when you see contract talks are beginning after fees are accepted they usually give a clearer picture.

    I'd love to be a fly on the wall in some of the offices of the managers when they read some of these rumours, in fact I'd like someone to ask them what they make of a lot of the rumours.
    People will believe what they want to believe
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    I still think we need a top class centre back no matter what we do. Given a straight choice between Lovren and Sakho I'd choose Sakho every day. But I understand why that won't happen.
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    Id get rid of both him and lovren. Neither are good enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by IFC View Post
    I'm actually for Sakho here.

    He's apologied and been told "nope sorry no coming back"

    So **** it. Yeah I'd do the same thing. I'd lap it up. What more can someone do after they've apologised?
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    I was fan ,but for 30 mill I will drive him myself...
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    Defence was better this season without him.
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    Sakho is as good as gone.

    You don't get sent home early from pre-season, reduced from the team sheet and shipped out on loan unless you've done something wrong and ********** off Klopp & co.

    As good a defender as he is - and as much as we could do with him - he's a foregone conclusion in my eyes. He's been mistreated by the club in my opinion but you can't argue with the club. 30m is a good deal considering we bought him for 17m I believe?
    Huuhmhmhmhmmm. Come at me bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldiogs View Post
    Defence was better this season without him.
    Nah, that was all down to super migs - if you believe the (tr)hype

    We kept a few clean sheets at the end of the season helped keep it half a dozen goals or so below our weak standard of the previous 3 seasons, hardly phenomenal or even close to the majority of seasons under Rafa
    People will believe what they want to believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldiogs View Post
    Defence was better this season without him.
    Mostly down to Matip and Milner has had a solid season, Mignolet was pretty good too, its just an opinion but if Sakho played alongside Matip we would conceded 5-10 less in the league.

    How about the view that if Sakho was in the team we would of been even better? why could it not be seen as they other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldiogs View Post
    Defence was better this season without him.
    Certainly that's not a lot to do with Lovren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shriekback View Post
    Mostly down to Matip and Milner has had a solid season, Mignolet was pretty good too, its just an opinion but if Sakho played alongside Matip we would conceded 5-10 less in the league.

    How about the view that if Sakho was in the team we would of been even better? why could it not be seen as they other way around.
    Probably because he's stating the facts and not make believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeak View Post
    Probably because he's stating the facts and not make believe.
    Lovren makes plenty of mistakes, thats a fact
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shriekback View Post
    Lovren makes plenty of mistakes, thats a fact
    Of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shriekback View Post
    Mostly down to Matip and Milner has had a solid season, Mignolet was pretty good too, its just an opinion but if Sakho played alongside Matip we would conceded 5-10 less in the league.

    How about the view that if Sakho was in the team we would of been even better? why could it not be seen as they other way around.
    People tend to break it down to base levels, conclude something about style, pace, the defensive set up and conclude Sakho only did well at palace because he was at palace. There is no way to know for sure, may be another signing that we paid a fair bit for and barely tried to make the signing work.
    People will believe what they want to believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarknessIsCalling View Post
    People tend to break it down to base levels, conclude something about style, pace, the defensive set up and conclude Sakho only did well at palace because he was at palace. There is no way to know for sure, may be another signing that we paid a fair bit for and barely tried to make the signing work.
    Just an opinion here but if Coutinho behaved the same way Sakho did ( not even sure what he really did) - would Klopp have shipped / loaned him out. My gut feel is that Klopp really didnt think that highly of him to begin with ...
    The voices that speak to me are red...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldiogs View Post
    Defence was better this season without him.
    But you can't honestly say Lovren is an improvement over Sakho surely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    But you can't honestly say Lovren is an improvement over Sakho surely?
    They are there about.
    Both good with tactics we do not play.
    One is just a giant moaner the other is not
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    But you can't honestly say Lovren is an improvement over Sakho surely?
    He didn't replace sakho
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    Nothing we dont already know about this guy.
    He's injured again, and will always be suspect in a team that plays a high defensive line.
    Sell him, and reinforce the defence with an adequate replacement and make lovren our deputy CB next season .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldiogs View Post
    He didn't replace sakho
    Well they play in the same spot. If Sakho was still here he'd be directly competing with Lovren for a first team spot, so it makes sense to compare them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    Well they play in the same spot. If Sakho was still here he'd be directly competing with Lovren for a first team spot, so it makes sense to compare them.
    To be fair, I don't think he'd be competing for it, I think he'd have it outright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed View Post
    To be fair, I don't think he'd be competing for it, I think he'd have it outright.
    So do I.
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