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    You can watch the video shown to the Jury today .........there are some very distressing scences



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    Quote Originally Posted by NACNUD View Post
    You can watch the video shown to the Jury today .........there are some very distressing scences



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    Helpful of you to post the session transcripts NACNUD, thanks. I can never bring myself to watch any footage though - haven't done for over 20 years. God willing, long-overdue justice will be served and some deserved peace will prevail for the families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Centre View Post
    Helpful of you to post the session transcripts NACNUD, thanks. I can never bring myself to watch any footage though - haven't done for over 20 years. God willing, long-overdue justice will be served and some deserved peace will prevail for the families.

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    Five things we learned from Day 16 of the Hillsborough Inquests





    May 21, 2014 22:38
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    Joe Thomas sums up Day 16 of the Hillsborough Inquests in Warrington







    Hillsborough, 15 April 1989


    1. That Exit Gate C was opened three times before kick-off:

    Exit Gate C, one of three exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the Hillsborough stadium, was opened three times between 2.48pm and 2.59pm. On all three occasions Liverpool fans entered the stadium through the gate. The first opening of the gate came one minute after Supt Marshall had called for Gates A, B and C to be opened, but was opened only to eject a young fan from stadium. After 150 fans managed to get through Gate C it was closed. At 2.52pm it was re-opened for around six minutes on the orders of match commander Chief Supt Duckenfield.

    2. There were no directions given to fans entering through Gate C between 2.52pm and 2.58pm

    Jurors heard that previous estimates suggest 2,000 Reds fans entered Hillsborough through Gate C after Ch Supt Duckenfield ordered for it to be opened at 2.52pm. Camera footage showed many of those fans, once in the ground, headed down the tunnel into the West Stand. Those fans were given no directions as to where to go once in the ground.

    3. That a request to send a fleet of ambulances to Hillsborough was initially turned down

    In total, 42 ambulances took 162 casualties from Hillsborough to three nearby hospitals. But an initial request made by Supt Murray for a fleet of ambulances to be sent to the stadium was refused. At 3.07pm Supt Murray radioed the police control box at the stadium calling for a fleet of ambulances. That message was conveyed to South Yorkshire Metropolitan Ambulance Service, which said it could not send a fleet and that its officers on the ground would assess the situation. Ambulances were only sent in bulk from 3.13pm, after a SYMAS officer at the ground was told of potential fatalities from the disaster.

    4. A police request for bolt cutters to be sent to the ground to cut through the perimeter fence at the Leppings Lane end was unsuccessful

    At 3.10pm a request was made from the police control box at Hillsborough for bolt cutters to be brought to the ground to cut through the wire mesh of the perimeter fence at the Leppings Lane end. A nearby police garage was unable to assist.

    5. Hillsborough was first declared a “major incident” at 3.21pm – 15.5 minutes after the match had been stopped

    The first official to declare Hillsborough as a “major incident” was an officer from SYMAS, who made the call at 3.21pm. The match had been halted just over 15 minutes earlier and emergency services were already aware there could be fatalities at the ground by this point.




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    Contains a 3D video of how the stadium would have looked in 1989......

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    Contains video from SF at Hillsborough in 1981 when 38 Spurs fans were injured after gates outside were opened.....


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    Friday 30th.May.....


    AM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...resentonly.pdf





    PM Session.....




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    Some very interesting facts starting to come out......this is what should have happened at the original inquests.......


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    10:59am, Tue 3 Jun 2014 Stadium safety in the spotlight as Hillsborough Inquests resume
    Hillsborough Inquests - tragedy could have been 'avoided' if police had acted
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    Inquests hear tragedy could have been 'avoided' Credit: PA Pictures

    The Hillsborough inquests resumed today with the jury hearing claims that the disaster "probably would have been avoided" if the police had not decided to close 12 turnstiles at the ground.

    The court was told the turnstiles at Penistone Road were intended to serve the north stand. An additional 6,000 spectators had to use the 23 turnstiles at the Leppings Lane end, it was claimed.

    In a letter in June 1989, Sheffield Wednesday's consulting engineer Dr Wilfred Eastwood said: "My own view is that the disaster probably would have been avoided if the police had not taken the decision to restrict entry to the north stand to the turnstiles at the Leppings Lane end of the ground."

    "If the normal arrangement of eight turnstiles at Leppings Lane plus 12 turnstiles on Penistone Road had been in operation, 6000 of the ticket holders would have entered from Penistone Road and 4,000 from the Leppings Lane end.

    In effect, an extra 6,000 spectators had to be catered for which, in my view, was probably a dominant factor in the build-up of the crowd waiting to enter the Leppings Lane end."



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    Tuesday 10th.June.....




    AM Session......



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-June-2014.pdf




    PM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-June-2014.pdf




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    AM Session.....



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    PM Session.....



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    Thursday 12th.June.........No session......


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    AM Session.....



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    PM Session......



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-June-2014.pdf





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    Thanks again NACNUD for the tireless work keeping us informed, it is appreciated.
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    Hillsborough inquest told Sheffield Wednesday breached safety rules

    Club admits safety certificate was not valid and risked potential criminal liability in years before 1989 disaster in which 96 died






    David Conn


    The Guardian, Monday 9 June 2014 14.41 BST


    Sheffield Wednesday's Hillsborough ground
    The jury was told that despite a reduction in Hillsborough's capacity, the safety certificate was never updated. Photograph: Hillsborough Inquests/PA


    A former secretary of Sheffield Wednesday has admitted the football club was in breach of its officially required safety certificate in the years before 96 people were killed in a lethal crush at its Hillsborough ground on 15 April 1989.

    Richard Chester, secretary from January 1984 to October 1986, a position then similar to chief executive, told the inquest into the disaster he was aware that the lack of up-to-date, drawn plans meant the safety certificate was not valid, and that breaching the certificate's conditions was a matter of potential criminal liability.

    Chester said that when he took over from the previous secretary, Eric England, he was aware that "radial" fences, built in the 1980s to divide the Leppings Lane terrace, had reduced its capacity to less than the maximum 10,100 stated on the safety certificate, drawn up in 1979. Despite that, the certificate and plans attached to it of the ground were never updated.

    Questioned by Christina Lambert QC, Chester acknowledged that Sheffield Wednesday was in breach of the terms and conditions of its safety certificate because the club had no system for counting the number of supporters entering each part of the ground.

    The certificate stated that 7,200 was the maximum capacity on the west terrace, Leppings Lane, and 2,900 on the north-west terrace in the corner. However, the club's turnstile counting system could not track which part of the ground fans entered after coming through the turnstiles numbered 7 to 23, and therefore could not count how many were in those areas.

    Explaining the purpose of a football club safety certificate, Chester said: "It is to ensure that the paying public are catered for and are hosted in a ground safe in the knowledge that the ground is safe for them."

    Lambert asked him whether he knew that a breach of a condition of the safety certificate at least exposed an individual to a criminal liability. He replied: "Yes."

    Chester told the inquest that he had never previously made it public that, independently of the capacity stated on the safety certificate and the club's safety policy, he used to withhold 250 tickets from sale for the Leppings Lane end when a large crowd was expected.

    He said he took the tickets out of circulation because: "If you have taken a section of terracing out which is not available for people, then there is less capacity."

    The inquest jury were told about two matches at Hillsborough in the 1980s at which police closed the tunnel leading to the central area of the Leppings Lane terrace, and directed incoming supporters to the areas at the sides. The jury has heard that the tunnel was not closed, or fans redirected to the sides, at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest, when 96 people were killed in the two central pens behind the goal on the Leppings Lane terrace.

    At Sheffield Wednesday's home match against Barnsley on 7 January 1984, the inquest heard, some Barnsley supporters were delayed due to a traffic incident on the M1. After speaking to the South Yorkshire police officer in command, Ch Supt Brian Mole, the decision was taken to delay the kickoff.

    When the late-coming fans arrived, Chester said he and Mole ordered the tunnel leading to the Leppings Lane central area to be closed with two gates, and police and stewards were also stationed in front of the gates to direct supporters to the side areas.

    Chester said he and Mole had judged the terrace's central area to be "fairly well packed" by then. He said they had assessed this, by "visualising" the numbers behind the goal. The total crowd for that match was 29,000, Lambert said. The crowd on the day of the disaster was 54,000.

    The inquest also heard about Sheffield Wednesday's First Division fixture on February 2 1985 against Liverpool, when the central tunnel was closed after 10-12 coaches of Liverpool fans arrrived late.

    Chester said Mole was the police officer in command at every match at Hillsborough during his time working for Sheffield Wednesday. The coroner, Lord Justice Goldring, told the jury in his opening address that Mole was replaced less than three weeks before the 1989 semi-final by Ch Supt David Duckenfield, who had never commanded a match at Hillsborough before.

    Questioned by Pete Weatherby QC, for 22 families whose relatives died in the Hillsborough crush, Chester accepted there was a problem with the central area of the Leppings Lane end becoming overcrowded. Asked how Sheffield Wednesday managed that problem, Chester agreed it was based on him and chief superintendent Mole "wandering around and having a look" at how many fans were in there.

    "Did you not ask anybody at the club or police: 'What is the method, the policy, by which we manage this enclosed area, this cage in effect?'" Weatherby asked. "It was a bit hit and miss, wasn't it, Mr Chester."

    "Yes I think it would be fair to describe it as that," Chester replied – adding, however, that the system worked while he was at the club.

    When Chester left Sheffield Wednesday in October 1986, Weatherby asked: "Was this ad hoc, hit or miss arrangement passed on" as a policy to those who would succeed him.

    Chester replied that he had made the club director responsible for stadium safety, Keith Addy, aware of his concerns about the overcrowding problem at the Leppings Lane end, and that he had informed the chairman, Bert McGee, that Leppings Lane needed "undivided attention".

    The Leppings Lane was, Chester told the inquest, a "serious pinch point, a bottleneck" that had fans arriving in large numbers with tickets for different parts of that end of the ground. There were only 23 turnstiles to enter a stand with an allowed capacity of 10,100. Chester had himself conducted a survey at a match starting at 3pm, attracting a 30,000 crowd, which found that 72% of people arrived after 2:40pm.

    "There were not enough turnstiles for these very large crowds, were there?" Weatherby asked.

    "I would have to concede and say no, there wasn't," Chester replied.

    He was then taken through a scheme drawn up in 1985 that would have increased the number of turnstiles to 34, and allowed them to be dedicated to particular parts of the Leppings Lane end, so supporters could be accurately counted in.

    The board, Chester acknowledged under persistent questioning, did not proceed with that scheme because they baulked at the 127,000 cost.

    Lesser works were carried out instead at half that cost, leaving the number of turnstiles at 23, not dedicated to specific parts of the ground. Chester agreed that Sheffield Wednesday could attract grants of up to 75% for any works on Hillsborough, from the Football Grounds Improvement Trust.

    Weatherby then asked Chester about a series of players Sheffield Wednesday had signed between March 1984 and August 1985, including Simon Stainrod, bought from Queens Park Rangers for 260,000, Nigel Worthington, 130,000 from Notts County and Garry Thompson, 425,000 from West Bromwich Albion. Players were also sold for similar sums, and a board minute dated 7 March 1985 showed a credit balance of 689,000.

    "It puts into perspective the 120,000-130,000 for this [rejected Leppings Lane improvement] scheme, doesn't it?" Weatherby asked. Chester said: "Yes."

    Chester said he was at home watching on television the 1988 FA Cup semi-final, which like 1989 was between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at Hillsborough. He said he had been aghast to see that Liverpool had been allocated the Leppings Lane end. As the club with a bigger following, coming to Sheffield from the north, down the M1, Liverpool should have been given the larger standing area, the Spion Kop, he said.

    He referred to a League Cup match between Sunderland and Norwich City, when he had asked Graham Kelly, then the Football League's secretary, for the allocated ends to be switched, and Sunderland, the bigger, northern club, given the Kop. This was agreed within 48 hours, he said.

    Asked whether he realised that Kelly had become the secretary of the Football Association in 1989, who had allocated the Liverpool v Nottingham Forest FA Cup semi-final to Hillsborough with Liverpool allocated the Leppings Lane end, Chester said he did not.

    The inquest in Warrington, Cheshire, continues.



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