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    Apologies for getting the links up a bit late but have been traveling through Europe......there wasn't a hearing on July the 1st.....



    Monday June 30th......




    AM Session......




    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-June-2014.pdf




    PM Session.....




    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-June-2014.pdf




    Wednesday 2nd.July.....




    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-2-July-AM.pdf




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    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-2-July-PM.pdf





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    Journalist was told 'wicked lie' about gate being broken down by Liverpool fans at Hillsborough, inquests hear





    Jul 03, 2014 14:10
    By Amy Browne


    David Walker also told the jury about the scenes he witnessed on the day of the disaster in which 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives








    File photo dated 15/04/89 of overcrowding in the fan enclosures at Hillsborough, during their FA Cup semi-final football match against Nottingham Forest.


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    A journalist who was at Hillsborough on the day of the disaster said he was told a ‘wicked lie’ about a gate being broken down by Liverpool fans trying to get into the ground.

    Giving evidence at the inquests, David Walker, who at the time worked for the Daily Mail and is now sports editor of the Sunday Mirror, said as events unfolded on the day he initially thought he was dealing with a hooligan situation because people were being told ticketless fans had broken down the gate.

    But when the match was abandoned and he made his way onto the pitch, he spoke to Liverpool fans who told him the exit gate had been opened allowing fans in. He said this was contrary to what he’d been told, and what the FA were leaking.

    Mr Walker told the jury he can’t remember who first said the gate had been broken down by fans.

    Mark George QC, asking questions on behalf of 22 of the families, said: “It was a wicked lie, wasn't it?”

    Mr Walker said yes and agreed he was misled by it.

    Mr George asked about fans who said they got in without tickets. Mr Walker said he spoke to between 12 and 20 fans and some said they got in and still had a full ticket.

    Mr Walker said when he went to Gate C later that afternoon, he could see it had not been broken. He said he also checked the wooden doors at the tunnel, going into the central pens and could see they hadn't been broken.

    Mr Walker later told the jury the disaster would not have happened if former match commander Chief Superintendent Brian Mole had been in charge.

    Chief Superintendent Mole was Hillsborough’s most experienced match commander and replaced by Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield shortly before the disaster.

    During questioning by John Beggs QC, representing retired superintendents David Duckenfield, Roger Greenwood and Roger Marshall, who were on duty on the day of the disaster, Mr Walker agreed that Mr Duckenfield had "little to no experience of sellout games at Hillsborough".

    Mr Beggs said: "So what we have, therefore, is an exemplary officer with leadership skills with a good blueprint for capacity matches, who is transferred out a matter of 19 or 20 days before this huge match."

    Mr Walker said yes.

    He added: “The evidence of the day suggested there was a complete breakdown in how the game was being policed.

    “(...) the fact that Brian Mole was removed from policing the Hillsborough area, not just the stadium, the actual area, and transferred to Barnsley, the fact that that happened and the events of the day I think are inextricably linked.”

    Earlier in today’s hearing Mr Walker was questioned by Rajiv Menon, on behalf of some of the families.

    The jury heard Mr Walker sat in the south stand as he waited for the game to begin, having come in through the Spion Kop end. He had a clear view of the Leppings Lane terraces.

    Mr Menon showed Mr Walker a statement he previously made which said: “I scanned the ground and at about 2.40pm I recall specifically noting that the centre sections of the terracing at the Leppings Lane end were packed to capacity and that the end sections were both free of fans for what I counted as four to six steps completely.”

    In the statement Mr Walker said that around the time of kick-off, he saw youngsters climbing up the fence, obviously in distress.
    He said: “I remember that policemen behind the goal were trying to put them back in”, and that it was "blindingly obvious" fans were in distress.

    Mr Walker said he remembers seeing a fan giving heart massage to a young boy.

    He said he also remembers seeing a photographer pushing a policeman onto the pitch, who ran to the referee and had the match cancelled.

    Mr Walker said from his seat he couldn’t see the police doing anything to assist with filling pens or distributing fans across the terrace.

    The first time police were noticeable, he said, was when the game had started and people were trying to climb out onto the pitch.

    He added: “There appeared to be no leadership as the disaster unfolded.

    “I could see from my position that the centre pens were full, and then overfull, as people were passing people out, yet no action was ordered from the police control box, who had a perfect view.”

    He said he felt "dismay" at the "absolute chaos".

    Mr Walker said after the changeover of policing at Hillsborough there had been just one match prior to the disaster, with a crowd of 15,777.

    He added: "To compare that with what you are then expecting somebody to mastermind, the policing of a semi-final, well it was a hugely challenging situation and one that I think led to the chaos and situation that we witnessed on that day.”


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    Thursday 3rd.July........




    Section taken from opening at today's hearing.........





    1 Thursday, 3 July 2014
    2 (10.10 am)
    3 IN THE PRESENCE OF THE JURY
    4 LORD JUSTICE GOLDRING: Good morning, members of the jury.
    5 Before we begin the evidence, Ms Lambert is going to
    6 give some indication of timetable, because I think it is
    7 important, not least from your points of view, to
    8 understand where we are.
    9 Discussion re timetabling
    10 MS LAMBERT: Sir, yes, thank you very much indeed. Now that
    11 we have concluded that section of the inquests which
    12 focuses upon stadium safety, we anticipated that the
    13 members of the jury might be assisted by an indication
    14 from us concerning future timetabling and our best
    15 judgment as to the overall length of these inquests.
    16 Sir, we have now commenced the evidence relating to
    17 the preparation and planning for the match on
    18 15 April 1989, and this will blend inevitably into the
    19 following sections, which concern the events of the day
    20 and the response to the emergency.
    21 We anticipate, on the basis of our timetabling of
    22 the witness evidence -- and, sir, a considerable amount
    23 of work has gone into the timetabling -- that we will
    24 have concluded relevant evidence concerning those
    25 sections of the inquests by the middle of January 2015.

    Page 2
    1 There will then follow a further phase in the
    2 inquests in which, with the benefit of the video
    3 analysis undertaken by Operation Resolve, we consider
    4 the movements of each of the deceased on the day, and
    5 that phase will also include calling medical evidence
    6 concerning each of the deceased on the issue of cause of
    7 death.
    8 Overall, sir, our best judgment is that these
    9 inquests will be completed by early July 2015.






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    Quick question would you like me to start writing the name of who's evidence is being heard together with the daily link ?.........
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    There wasn't a session on Wednesday 9th.July.....




    Thursday 10th.July.....




    AM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...ry-present.txt




    PM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...ry-Present.txt




    Have used links to the text transcripts today, hopefully they will be alittle easier to read.......if any one prefers the other then let me know and I will change back.......




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    Friday 11th.July.....




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    Hillsborough turnstile operator told to get people in "as quickly as possible" even if they didn't have a ticket





    Jul 15, 2014 13:26
    By Amy Browne


    Dr Gauntlet said it would have been 'completely obvious' to the club and police that people were being let in without tickets













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    A former turnstile operator at Hillsborough told the inquests he was instructed to get people into the ground “as quickly as possible” whether they had a ticket or not.

    Dr James Trevor Gauntlet worked at Sheffield Wednesday part time from 1979 and 1985 and saw injuries caused by crushing at the 1981 FA Cup semi-final between Tottenham Hotspur and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

    He said the police thought the most important thing was to get people into the ground as fast as possible, but he knew this could have consequences for those inside.

    At the FA Cup semi-final in 1980, between Arsenal and Liverpool, Dr Gauntlet said a police officer told him to admit anyone who arrived at the turnstile, whether or not they had a ticket. He was told police officers would carry out the job of checking the tickets outside.

    He added: “We were told our role was to get people into the ground as quickly as possible. We were under the instructions of the police and they were – and this is implied I think – taking responsibility for any crowding or overcrowding.”

    The same happened at the 1981 Fa Cup semi-final. He said: “We were explicitly told in 1981 by Basil Jones [unofficially the senior or head steward at the time], that it was our job to get people through the turnstiles, to avoid a crush in the turnstile, and if somebody arrived at the turnstile without a valid ticket, we should allow them in.”

    Dr Gauntlet said that at both the 1980 and 1981 FA Cup semi-finals, there was a lot of pressure from outside the turnstiles.



    He said at times it became difficult for the turnstile to rotate because the person who was standing behind the one being let through, was in the way.

    Dr Gauntlet said on each occasion, he probably let in between 700 and 800 people, of which 20 to 30 didn’t have a ticket and 60 to 70 had tickets for another part of the ground.

    Dr Gauntlet said operators could let as many as 1,000 people in before a game and wanted to get as many in as possible because it showed they were working harder than everybody else.

    He would see people squeeze through the turnstile together when it rotated after he’d received just one ticket.

    Dr Gauntlet admitted he sometimes took money to let people in without tickets. He said he took about 70 in 1980 and about 100 in 1981. He was getting paid 10 to work a game and said his fellow turnstile operators did the same.

    He said the cash he took off people going through the gates "went in your back pocket" and the club would have known it was happening.

    When it was put to him that the money he took off fans as a “bonus” was stealing he said: “The club didn't want the money - the club just wanted the ticket stubs".

    He said a perk of the job was being given a ticket for games, which they didn't need because they could watch the second half of the game for free anyway.

    He said there were around 60 turnstile operators and double that number of stewards, who were selling tickets on. Dr Gauntlet agreed that the club knew full well this was happening and they were being sold on the black market or to touts.

    He said his senior manager was aware of what the turnstiles operators were doing.

    During questioning by Mark George QC, representing some of the families, Dr Gauntlet agreed that in theory there were 10,100 people with a ticket for Leppings Lane, and an extra 100 people going in who either didn’t have a ticket, or had a ticket for the wrong part of the ground.

    He agreed with Mr George that this would have been "completely obvious" to the football club and the police, who would have had to have been "wilfully blind" to it.

    He said: “They should have known.”


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    Thursday 17th.July.....




    AM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...esent-only.txt




    PM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...esent-only.txt




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    Taken from today's proceeding's regarding the two missing tapes from the Police control room......




    Mr Mansfield asked about the VCR tapes in the club control room, that recorded the cameras.

    He said: "The 16 in that cupboard, two went missing, didn't they?"

    Mr Mackrell replied: "So I understand sir, yes."

    Q: "Who else had keys beside yourself?"

    A: "I didn't have a key sir."

    He said he had a key for a key box, in which there was a key for the room, he thinks kept in the main ticket office.

    Q: "Who else had keys for the room?"

    A: "I'm not aware."

    Q: "When did you first become aware that there were two cassettes missing?"

    A: "Sometime after the event sir."

    Q: "How long?"

    A: "I don't recall."

    Mr Mackrell said this was perhaps sometime around the Taylor Inquiry, but he might be incorrect.

    He was asked if the control room was his responsibility. He said it was, but the tapes were not his responsibility.

    He said it was the responsibility of the person who locks up.

    He asked had tapes gone missing before.

    He said he had "no idea". It had not been reported to him.

    Mr Mansfield said the latest he suggested the tapes went missing was on the Sunday, the following day.

    Mr Mackrell said he didn't recall it.

    He said: It was a surprise to me, I thought possibly they had been mislaid."

    He is asked if he made enquiries about the missing tapes. He didn't. He believed it was a matter for the police.

    Did is asked did he know that then? He said no, subsequently.

    Mr Mansfield said: "You must have asked questions about who on earth got into that room and took two tapes?"

    He replied: "I didn't sir."

    He said he was not aware which cameras the tapes related to. He said Mr Holdsworth would have known.

    He was asked: "Were you ever interviewed at the time about these tapes?"

    He replied: "I don't recall being interviewed sir."

    The cornoner asked what arrangements were made after the disaster regarding the safekeeping of these tapes.

    He replied: "The police secured the ground sir overnight, locking, taking keys."
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    Friday 18th.July......




    AM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...ry-present.txt




    PM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...esent-only.txt



    If you have some time to spare today's transcripts are well worth reading.......



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    Monday 21st.July.....




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    Wednesday 23rd.July.....




    AM Session.....



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    Thursday 24th.July.....




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    There was not a hearing on Friday 25th. July.....





    Monday 28th.July.....




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    PM Session.....



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    Police officer 'can't explain' why log entry he made the day after Hillsborough 'mysteriously vanished' from his evidence





    Jul 29, 2014 14:09
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    The entry said officers made a request to shut the gates at the rear of the Leppings Lane tunnel, leading to the central pens










    Hillsborough inquest witness Trevor Bichard.


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    A former police officer said he can’t explain why a request to close the gates to the Leppings Lane tunnel was wiped from the history of Hillsborough.

    In interviews with the Independent Police Complaints Commission and Operation Resolve (the criminal investigation into the disaster) Trevor Bichard, who was the police CCTV operator on the day, said closing the tunnel to the central pens on Leppings Lane was never discussed in the control box.

    But today, the new inquests were shown a log Mr Bichard made the day after the disaster, in which an entry from 2.55pm said: "From officers rear of Leppings Lane - shut the gates at the rear of the tunnel."

    Brenda Campbell, on behalf of 12 of the families, asked Mr Bichard to tell the jury about that message.

    He said: "I have no answer to it, because there's nothing I've ever said in all this time that suggested that that tunnel has ever been closed when I have worked there, or been there as a supporter."

    Mr Bichard said up until now he has believed there was no discussion about the tunnel.

    Ms Campbell asked under whose orders he left it out of his next statement, and failed to mention it at the initial inquiry into the disaster. She said: "Under whose orders did you lie to Lord Justice Taylor eight weeks later?”

    He said he never lied.



    The log was recovered by the IPCC in a bundle from the Police Federation offices, under a memo from Chief Superintendent Terry Wain.

    Ms Campbell said it is highly unlikely to be something that was forgotten: “You accept, don't you, that a request four minutes before anybody climbs onto the pitch, 11 minutes before the match is stopped, to shut the gates at Leppings Lane terrace - and a request that is audible in that control box - is of critical importance?” she added.

    Mr Bichard said: "I've got no answer to that at all. I have got no answer and I sit here feeling rather foolish."

    Ms Campbell said: "How do you explain then the lie to Lord Justice Taylor, the lie to the inquest just two years later? How do you explain that?"

    “I can't explain it at all,” said Mr Bichard.

    He said no one instructed him to lie and he had said nothing that he didn't honestly believe.

    Ms Campbell said: "This communication was received two minutes after those gates were opened at 2.55pm, four minutes before anyone tries to escape those pens and at a time when 96 lives could have been saved."

    She said it has been wiped from the history of Hillsborough.

    Rajiv Menon also questioned Mr Bichard on behalf of 10 families.

    Referring to the log entry, he said: “Can we take it, Mr Bichard, that this message was heard in the control room over the personal radio at or about 2.55pm that day?"

    Mr Bichard said yes and said he can provide no explanation for why this entry "mysteriously vanished" from the next document he prepared about the disaster.

    The court was shown a photo of a view of the Leppings Lane terrace from the control box.


    Mr Bichard confirmed no one in the police control box was conscious of a serious overcrowding problem in Leppings Lane terrace.

    Mr Menon said two minutes before the match was abandoned Mr Bichard was asked to call for dog handlers. He asked Mr Bichard at what time the control box realised they were watching a major catastrophe, rather than public order incident.

    Mr Birchard said his first indication was when he saw injured fans on the pitch.

    He said he had never been aware of an operational tactic for the superintendent to monitor the central pens and make a decision when the tunnel needed to be closed.

    Mr Menon said: "Mr Duckenfield and Mr Murray provided little, if any, leadership on the day, did they?"

    Mr Bichard said: "There was no leadership."

    Mr Menon: “I mean they were slow to act, even when they did eventually act, far, far, far too late. Is that fair?"

    Mr Bichard: "That's fair."





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    Wednesday 30th.July.....



    AM Session.....



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    Thursday.31st.July.....




    AM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-July-2014.txt




    PM Session.....



    http://hillsboroughinquests.independ...-July-2014.txt





    Hopefully the jury see through this selective memory ploy......




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    The inquest is now adjourned for three weeks for a summer break and the hearings will resume on August 26.
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    Good Morning......

    Inquests start up today again......seemingly there will be many police officers giving evidence these next few days.....


    Wonder how many of them will have selective memory again.....


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    Tuesday 26th. August.....



    WARNING: Contains evidence some people may find distressing.....




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    Wednesday 27th.August.....




    AM Session.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by NACNUD View Post
    Quick question would you like me to start writing the name of who's evidence is being heard together with the daily link ?.........
    Hi mate, thanks for posting these each day. I wouldn't mind you doing that if you have the time?

    Does the website have a list of every person who will be giving evidence?

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