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    Clyne is a good player. Energetic, adventurous and I have to say Bertrand was no different yesterday either in his approach. Clyne got the goal and certainly looked a good player and a threat however I don't think he's a player for us.

    That's not a comment on his ability one little bit but one of his worst attributes is his ability to head the ball and deal with crosses. With Clyne one side and Moreno the other it would simply but too much pressure on our centre backs to deal with the lot.
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    clyne and bertrand are in my opinion as effective as shaw and chambers.
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    Clyne is a decent RB, and looked good with his attacking yesterday.
    but mind you, that's 'coz who we had at LB! GJ...

    he didn't offer much defensively otherwise...

    it's like watching Johnson from a few years ago when he used to attack with pace & grit!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFgJa4jHG08
    this was his goal against Chelsea about 3yrs back...

    he was defensively vulnerable then too, but now he's lost that attacking instinct, the reason why he is deemed a liability in the team.

    coming back to Clyne, he is a decent player, but there were a number of -ves in his game yesterday... not taking away the amazing finish, but he didn't offer that much defensively to warrant so much hype...

    he could turn out to be great, or maybe like GJ..

    for now, I'd say we are fine with Manquilo and Flanno on the right, and Moreno & Enrique on the left, with GJ open to leave!
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    Clyne scored a good goal but was at fault for two!
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    In my dream team, decent player with bags of potential
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    Clyne would not improve us at all, he's as average as it gets.
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    Clyne played well so did Bertrand. Tadic was the pick.

    Bertrand or Johnson at left back?
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    So glad we signed this guy.

    What an upgrade on Glen Johnson.
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    Disappointed with the way he gave up on the ball for the 2nd goal.

    He was running after the ball and then just as when the ball started to approach
    the goal line,he gave up.....if i were him i would have used the momentum to
    put a slide in,get down on my backside......and then sweep the ball away with
    my right foot.

    Now even if you fail,what's the harm in trying?Had he tried,who knows......i think
    he would have saved it,totally!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollertoaster View Post
    Disappointed with the way he gave up on the ball for the 2nd goal.

    He was running after the ball and then just as when the ball started to approach
    the goal line,he gave up.....if i were him i would have used the momentum to
    put a slide in,get down on my backside......and then sweep the ball away with
    my right foot.

    Now even if you fail,what's the harm in trying?Had he tried,who knows......i think
    he would have saved it,totally!
    Yep - hear what you say

    Didn't one of the pundits over the weekend question defending this season - i know many of us on here have.......
    It seems that everyone today has a mistake in them, some more than others....
    It begs the question is it the players or is it the systems and the managers/coaches.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteron View Post
    Yep - hear what you say

    Didn't one of the pundits over the weekend question defending this season - i know many of us on here have.......
    It seems that everyone today has a mistake in them, some more than others....
    It begs the question is it the players or is it the systems and the managers/coaches.........

    I think we are chasing some mythical butterfly in here Ron,when answers lie on focusing on fundamentals.


    That goal for me,looked savable had Clyne tried what i mentioned above.They watch so many videos,
    they do so much analysis,they have so many coaches around,they talk to ex-players.....I'm sure
    they are exposed to different simulations during the training and are told how to respond when
    the keeper is off his line and you are chasing the ball as it heads towards the goal.

    The reaction from him wasn't great,he had a better choice at his disposal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollertoaster View Post
    Disappointed with the way he gave up on the ball for the 2nd goal.

    He was running after the ball and then just as when the ball started to approach
    the goal line,he gave up.....if i were him i would have used the momentum to
    put a slide in,get down on my backside......and then sweep the ball away with
    my right foot.

    Now even if you fail,what's the harm in trying?Had he tried,who knows......i think
    he would have saved it,totally!
    I was thinking the same. I then thought maybe he looked closer than he was or something but still why didn't he at least try!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterPool Stark View Post
    I was thinking the same. I then thought maybe he looked closer than he was or something but still why didn't he at least try!
    Yup...did the harder part by going after the ball but then he stopped.
    May be he knew he wouldn't get there but no harm in trying...you see
    so often,the last defender slides in and tries to clear the ball off the line.

    Sometimes they succeed and sometimes the clearance is not quick enough
    and the ball ends up hitting the roof of the net but if you try,you give yourself
    an outside chance.
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    Are we really blaming Clyne for that fluky goal?

    He had a great game. I'd look elsewhere fellas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post
    Are we really blaming Clyne for that fluky goal?

    He had a great game. I'd look elsewhere fellas.
    If Cyne had a great game yesterday I need to see a good doctor.

    Actually one of the funniest posts I've read on here in a while, I can only presume you didn't watch yesterday's game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    If Cyne had a great game yesterday I need to see a good doctor.
    Why would you want to see a bad doctor at any time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post
    Why would you want to see a bad doctor at any time?
    Come on admit you didn't watch the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    Come on admit you didn't watch the game.
    I missed 3 minutes just before half when I let the dogs out... otherwise, I saw him solid in defense, and he was constantly providing width and an outlet on the right. Had a few chances, and created a few himself.

    How did he have a bad game? What did West Ham create down his flank?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post
    I missed 3 minutes just before half when I let the dogs out... otherwise, I saw him solid in defense, and he was constantly providing width and an outlet on the right. Had a few chances, and created a few himself.

    How did he have a bad game? What did West Ham create down his flank?
    Show me where I said he had a ''bad'' game? Love how people on here try twist things when they say ridiculous things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    Show me where I said he had a ''bad'' game? Love how people on here try twist things when they say ridiculous things.
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    If Cyne had a great game yesterday I need to see a good doctor.

    Actually one of the funniest posts I've read on here in a while, I can only presume you didn't watch yesterday's game.
    The opposite of 'good', is 'bad'. So by implying that my post was 'sick, delusion, or 'seeing a doctor' worthy' would mean you don't agree and think the opposite.

    You're having a tough day on the internet today. Take a break, lad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post
    The opposite of 'good', is 'bad'. So by implying that my post was 'sick, delusion, or 'seeing a doctor' worthy' would mean you don't agree and think the opposite.

    You're having a tough day on the internet today. Take a break, lad.
    Dear Lord you just get worse. I couldn't care what the opposite of good is, you claimed Clyne was ''great'' yesterday. Doubt you'll find a single other person on this planet who'll agree with that ridiculous statement. But of course I should take a break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    Dear Lord you just get worse. I couldn't care what the opposite of good is, you claimed Clyne was ''great'' yesterday. Doubt you'll find a single other person on this planet who'll agree with that ridiculous statement. But of course I should take a break.
    You could probably do with calming down a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    You could probably do with calming down a bit.
    No problem I will do but please take a look at the ridiculous posts I'm replying to, nothing I've said is untrue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFK6 View Post
    No problem I will do but please take a look at the ridiculous posts I'm replying to, nothing I've said is untrue.
    It's a forum mate...people will have differing opinions.

    No point getting angry if people disagree with yours...and vice versa.

    And no one can hear your opinion if you get banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    It's a forum mate...people will have differing opinions.

    No point getting angry if people disagree with yours...and vice versa.

    And no one can hear your opinion if you get banned.
    Yeah fair enough pal
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    Clyne is a great player. One of the best in our squad. That's the way I see it anyway
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    Clyne is a decent player. He's quick, good one v one, decent with ball at his feet but he's nothing special. He's not great defending crosses inside his own box. Doesn't impose himself in set pieces.

    His crossing has been much better this season. It was terrible last few seasons. It's still average though. He's a decent full back, not a major problem and not a major positive either. When Milner moves to full back and performs better than Clyne and has more of an impact that tells it's own story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach791 View Post
    Clyne is a decent player. He's quick, good one v one, decent with ball at his feet but he's nothing special. He's not great defending crosses inside his own box. Doesn't impose himself in set pieces.

    His crossing has been much better this season. It was terrible last few seasons. It's still average though. He's a decent full back, not a major problem and not a major positive either. When Milner moves to full back and performs better than Clyne and has more of an impact that tells it's own story.
    I don't think Milner is performing better at RB than Clyne. Is Clyne a world beater, no, but he's very solid. Milner offers more going forward, but I feel he's often out of position in defense and gets caught out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shed View Post
    I don't think Milner is performing better at RB than Clyne. Is Clyne a world beater, no, but he's very solid. Milner offers more going forward, but I feel he's often out of position in defense and gets caught out.
    I'm sure people will have varied opinions. I actually think left back is the tougher position. With Mane directly in front of you providing width you are needed less in attack and have more cover. With Coutinho coming inside Milner is always having to provide width and that means he'll be out of position more often.

    He's a better footballer than Clyne and I think that shows in matches this season. He has a bigger influence on the game. Midfielders are generally better footballers than full backs anyway.
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    Clyne is solid.

    IMO, our midfield is very flimsy and this needs to be adressed otherwise were going to carry on leaking goals. For too long now it feels like we are unable to consistently control a game, yes they are creative and Im not trying to knock them, but it seems to me that we are unable to shut up shop when we are comfortably ahead.
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