I think that's a very good point, people have different methods that work for them!
And I guess it will also depends on the level of depression people have.
Exercise is something doctors are prescribing more and more due to the endorphins that are released when exercising which gives your body and mind a positive feeling, and the increased level of self esteem it can give you.
I imagine this alone would not be enough for the more severe cases, but it certainly would help!
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And here is one of many scholarly articles - so if you think its a joke in factual terms - take it up with those who have done the studies - I'm sure they'd love your input. And when you've read it there are lots more.
Thanks guys. One thing I have noticed since this happened is the extent to which people try to cover up their feelings but also how noticeable the signs are that something is not right if you switch on to people as people and not just objects, if that makes sense. A work colleague of mine is desperately unhappy in his job but is also caught in the trap of modern day life where he needs the income to pay his mortgage and bills. He has changed from an effervescent individual who was always around interacting with everyone, to a virtual recluse who hides himself away in a room on his own and just gets on with things so he doesn't have to speak to our line manager who is probably the most useless, stupid person on planet earth to be in a position of such responsibility. He certainly can't see, or doesn't care about, the obvious change in behaviour of my colleague and this is difficult as he is the cause of much of it.
A few years back a lad who worked for me got himself into some pretty serious trouble that resulted in a police investigation and ultimate dismissal from his job. Whilst the investigation was ongoing he was put under medication and completely lost focus on what he was supposed to be doing to the extent that he had to be put on work where he couldn't endanger himself or anyone working with him. The complete lack of any sympathy shown by some of the workforce was quite disgusting in my view, and I had to put up with a lot of stick whilst trying to keep this lad out of harms way.
On reflection, I've worked with work with some utter dicks
Last edited by kickthetyres; 14-8-14 at 16:20.
After my son was born, my wife was admitted to hospital suffering from severe post natal depression. I knew something was wrong when little one was 4 weeks old but only realised the severity when she woke me at 3AM on the morning she was admitted to hospital, informing me in the most chilling manner that the future would proceed in one of the 3 following ways: Either she would be leaving and not coming back, or she would kill herself, or she would kill our baby.
Once she had been diagnosed with PND, the hard work began .. as PND is a condition which IS CAUSED DIRECTLY BY A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE IN THE BRAIN (as cookie has said, and this applies to the vast majority of depressive conditions), she was immediately put onto a course of SSRI's (drugs which manage serotonin levels), and underwent intensive psychotherapy. Cutting a very long story short, she continued with this treatment for 3 years - during that time, she underwent a personality change, from being outgoing and friendly to being completely withdrawn and 'neutral' (the only way I can explain it) .. as she herself described it - no ups and downs, just day to day monotony (this sounds quite negative but it was actually a blessing, considering how suicidal and totally down she had been prior to this). After the 3 years, she was slowly weaned off the medication, and is now back to being completely full of ***** and the woman I fell in love with (it is now nearly 4 years since she came off the meds and stopped all treatment and our little boy turned 7 yesterday - one aside from this is that he unfortunately picked up on her anxiety as a small baby, developed a condition himself, and he himself is now on anti-anxiety medication - interesting how this developed and why it required meds, but that is another story).
Had she not woken me up at 3AM that morning and shared her feelings with me, I do not like to think of what might have happened. Thank the powers that be she did - and that she overcame her disease.
This is one story of millions .. about only one form of depression - it is, as I said in an earlier post, an insidious disease that can affect anyone .. if you want to get an inkling of what it feels like, try imagining a life where you have little to no interest in things that surround you, you have little to no energy, nothing seems to give you pleasure and you feel sad most of the time. Add to that bad sleep patterns, low self confidence and regular feelings of guilt and suicide and you start to get an idea of what depression is. All of us will experience feelings of being down and depressed in our lives but, fortunately, these feelings are transient .. the chronically depressed person will feel these feelings most of the time, and they just do not leave without some form of treatment.
Never, ever look down on someone who has this disease - they need the same level of care, love and (perhaps most importantly of all) support that anyone with a more 'acceptable' (can't think of a better way to describe it) form of condition does. They are already operating from a position where they have desperate issues to contend with - demeaning and trivializing them and their disease will only compound that.
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I have depression and all I can say at this point in time is that I hate depression and it hates me as I intend on fighting on through it.
If you haven't got your mind you have nothing!
Keep strong mate, and you beat it OK?Originally Posted by DaveDream
I have had it most of my life but I ignored it, that didn't work out to well.
I tried over the years to explain how I was feeling to family but they didn't take it serious and in the end I had enough and didn't have contact with any of them for over two years. The contact started up again not so long back due to myself getting so low I was about to take my own life but something made me call an ambulance, since then my family have been great and very helpful since seeing what a mess I was in. The build up to me going hospital I hadn't eat or slept at all for about a week maybe more, so obviously I didn't look to good. I guess that helped in a way because my loved ones know how serious it is.
Been through depression due personal family problems in the past, it's probably the hardest thing I've had to deal with in my lifetime. I didn't go to my GP or anything though just learnt to cope with it. I'd just like to add stress is another misunderstood disease.
Just to give an indication of how 'chemical imbalance' can affect mood and depression: For a few weeks now I have been feeling physically exhausted and mentally drained and down, and irritable a lot of the time. Very unusual for me so I went to the doc and had a barrage of blood tests done. Turns out I have an iron deficiency - I have been on an iron supplement for a week now, and I feel infinitely better already (even though the doc said I should expect to see results in only 10 days to 2 weeks) .. this highlights two things for me:
1. I thought I was just being lazy physically and 'full of ****' mentally and that I needed to snap out of it. No amount of coaxing myself 'in my mind' could accomplish that though - and believe me when I say I am usually a VERY positive person,and I rarely, if ever, have issues motivating myself.
2. A chemical, or even mineral, imbalance in your system is, for the most part, to blame for these kinds of feelings. I was pretty sure that was the case before, but now I am even more convinced (not that I really needed convincing).
One other point that bears this out - anyone who has been 'naughty' in their lives and taken ecstasy will surely be familiar with the comedown effect a couple of days after your 'party' has ended. This is due to the serotonin levels being depleted and a couple more chemical interactions taking place. No matter how hard you try, it is virtually impossible to control that 'comedown' .. you cannot just 'snap out of it', without a huge amount of self-control, if at all.
For me, this is additional info which supports the 'chemical imbalance' factor as being the predominant one vis-à-vis depression.
Mental trauma is not a physical disease - it is not an affliction of the body or of the brain per se , though in some cases brain injuries go beyond this which cause mental health problems to be addressed.
Mental health is assessed upon the ability of cognition and the not so rigorous aspect of the logical and illogical with then the emotional response.
Depression is not a disease, it isn't catching - you cannot catch depression by breathing it in, it isn't contagious, to label depression as a 'disease' is misleading and in fact denigrating in respect of misrepesenting it as a categorical 'disease'.
Mental health considerations are expansive and complicated/diverse, this concerns me that depression and suicide are awkwardly combined as a title of a thread.
I have reservations, I do understand the question, though clumsy, just a bit.
Last edited by Socratease; 20-8-14 at 08:59.
noun: disease; plural noun: diseases; noun: dis-ease; plural noun: dis-eases
a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury.
"bacterial meningitis is quite a rare disease"
I do give due deference to some heartfelt posts in this thread, but do regard that depression does not necessarily become incumbent to suicide in regard to mental health.
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