Every time Lucas is our main man in midfield, we finish 7th-8th.
When we had Mascherano, we finished 2nd. Last season we had Gerrard and finished 2nd again.
This season Lucas has been our 'most important' midfielder and we've been 7th forever.
The sooner we replace him with a top DM the better
I do think he can be upgraded on, but he's been integral to our upsurge in recent months. And was missed the other night when we were sitting deep and flat as Spurs came at us.
I think Lucas has been a sensation since he returned to the team and deserved all the plaudits given, actually feel pretty good myself as well as I have been championing the use of a proper DM for 3 years now [even when Gerrard was doing well and playing back there] and I think its been pretty much proven beyond doubt how affective its been, certainly defense wise.
What I do see a lot of is fans now wanting to see Can play in that DM position, no doubt he will and be a success, but he is not a DM, he is a HM, for sure if Can plays as a HM the team will score more goals but we will also concede more [think Gerrard last season all though obviously not as exaggerated].
The difference between a defensive and holding midfielder is a lot bigger than some people think, one is a spoiler and one a creator and each has a totally different approach to the game, for me Can would be perfect to play alongside Lucas not instead of him, even more so with the attacking midfield talent we have in front of them [Sterling Couts and Lallana].
Of course that would put Hendoís place in doubt and that would mean him taking Allenís place in the squad, but is that such a bad thing.
Just hope we get the chance to see Lucas or his DM replacement play alongside Can.
This formation has absolutely suited Lucas better and his performances have been very good. I've been a critic of Lucas under Rodgers, certainly when holding alone because if his technical limitations. When holding alone you have a lot of space to cover and he's slow, you are charged with starting passing transitions and he can't, it is always a safe ball back or side.
However I have always said in my criticisms that there are ways to get the best out of Lucas. If you pair him with somebody in a two holding that cuts down the distance has to cover which helps with his pace. Also if he can give the ball quickly to somebody else to start the transition it works better.
If you look back at his more influential performances be it Mascherano, Meireles, Spearing or Henderson there was always somebody more mobile helping him cover the ground. When this happens and there's somebody chasing around it allows him to use his intelligence and anticipation and pick up the pieces and snap into tackles which he does very well.
He was one of the main people to benefit from this system change. In the diamond he couldn't control the passing like Gerrard to stretch opposition and he couldn't cover ground Allen and Henderson could.
However in this system he's done really well but it's not an upturn in form we just play a way better suited to his game now.
Thing is I can never recollect hardly any successful team [going right back to Nobby with England] who have not had a Lucas type player in it, the only exceptions have been teams with a truly world class CM player instead, thinking Gerard Keane and Viera.
By Lucas type I mean a spoiler, not really even a what you would call a good footballer, at times I have even called him crap, his first thought is to disrupt play not create it, the player I most think Lucas reminds me of is David Batty, god he got some stick, but if it had not been for Keegan and his inept management Batty would have won three winners medals with 3 different clubs, that don’t happen by accident, I think fans who don’t like Lucas don’t appreciate what he brings to the team, it’s a sort of selfless mentality that is more appreciated by his team mates than the fans.
Your right last season when we finished 2nd... He wasnt involved for most of it .
But hey twitter , Instagram are good ways at pulling at daft LFC supporters heart strings
Dave you know my true feelings about Lucas i post them here often enough , and i totally agree with your statement about Clubs having these " unsung hero's" as their known .
My beef is that for 8 years now we have stuck with him , he arrived as an AM got absolutely slated by LFC fans and Benitez forced him to play the DM position .
Over the 8 years he has been here ...when in the side LFC has won nothing , over the 8 years many fans have cried out for an upgrade on him ...a better DM , more mobile , better technically . but the managers at the said times have ignored it .
Sadly for them Managers their tenure came to an end , now im not saying its Lucas's fault alone ...but around every corner is someone better than the last guy .
The fact is that if Lucas is the holding DM on his own , his lack of pace , lack of technique and his lack of awareness are all highlighted ...so basically whichever Manager has or does play him , they have to put someone alongside him to do his running and help him out ...that in itself means we are using 2 players for one postion .
Where as with the likes of Matic, Schniederlin etc they boss that position on their own ....freeing up the other midfielder to get forward and support the attack .
If we get a proper Top class DM people will then realise why ive harped on about it ...and why we will start winning / challenging for titles again .
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