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    Our player of the season 2 years in a row now.

    I do believe that he's also our top scorer this season and also our top assister this season, that's without looking at everything else he adds to our team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geo1122 View Post
    Our player of the season 2 years in a row now.

    I do believe that he's also our top scorer this season and also our top assister this season, that's without looking at everything else he adds to our team.
    Premier League- Coutinho/Lallana/Mané/Milner 3 goals each- assists Lallana 3, Wijnaldum/Coutinho 2


    All competitions Origi/Firmino/Coutinho/Mané 4 goals each- assists Lallana 4, Coutinho /Mané 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    Premier League- Coutinho/Lallana/Mané/Milner 3 goals each- assists Lallana 3, Wijnaldum/Coutinho 2


    All competitions Origi/Firmino/Coutinho/Mané 4 goals each- assists Lallana 4, Coutinho /Mané 3
    Lallana has 3 goals in al comps, as does Firmino and Mane. Origi has 2 goals in all comps.

    You might want to check your sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geo1122 View Post
    Lallana has 3 goals in al comps, as does Firmino and Mane. Origi has 2 goals in all comps.

    You might want to check your sources.
    got from

    http://www.espnfc.co.uk/player/182033/divock-origi
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    Friendlies don't count towards a player's goal tally, despite what Pele and his 1000 goals says
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernRob View Post
    Friendlies don't count towards a player's goal tally, despite what Pele and his 1000 goals says
    Sorry I just did a quick research wasn't really paying attention sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    Sorry I just did a quick research wasn't really paying attention sorry
    One more sorry and you're forgiven
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    Sorry I just did a quick research wasn't really paying attention sorry
    Haha you had me double checking and triple checking! If I'm honest there are not many great sources for this info, as some sites are just lazy. Fortunately we're early in the season so I kind of remember who scored what goals, but double checked the games like a sad one just in case.
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    The little genius, just wish he could perform a little bit more consistently!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    The little genius, just wish he could perform a little bit more consistently!
    Yeah I know.He is a genius, he just needs to perform like a genius consistently. That said Bobby is a genius too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFirmino View Post
    Yeah I know.He is a genius, he just needs to perform like a genius consistently. That said Bobby is a genius too.
    Lots of geniuses in this squad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    The little genius, just wish he could perform a little bit more consistently!
    The problem with players that have such a high performance ceiling, is that they can still play ok, but it gets marked down as a poor performance.

    I think we'll see less of this though, because of the talent that now surrounds him
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    He'll never be able to improve his shooting though
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilbertoSilva View Post
    He'll never be able to improve his shooting though
    I've not given up all hope yet. Just imagine if he could add that to his game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    I've not given up all hope yet. Just imagine if he could add that to his game.
    It would be great, but if he didn't have it by the age of 21, he never will. No matter how much he practices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilbertoSilva View Post
    He'll never be able to improve his shooting though
    The thing is, when you are capable of taking some incredible shots - you are more likely to miss loads trying. Someone like Lucas is only likely to take a shot when the situation is perfect - so he is rarely likely to miss

    Didn't Ronaldo go something like 50 free kicks without scoring one recently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernRob View Post
    The thing is, when you are capable of taking some incredible shots - you are more likely to miss loads trying. Someone like Lucas is only likely to take a shot when the situation is perfect - so he is rarely likely to miss

    Didn't Ronaldo go something like 50 free kicks without scoring one recently?
    Oh yeah, I know. Was just having a laugh at Coach saying Coutinho would never be able to strike a ball cleanly or improve his shooting because if he couldn't by the age of 21, he never would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernRob View Post
    The thing is, when you are capable of taking some incredible shots - you are more likely to miss loads trying. Someone like Lucas is only likely to take a shot when the situation is perfect - so he is rarely likely to missDidn't Ronaldo go something like 50 free kicks without scoring one recently?
    I take it you've never seen Lucas shoot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishMasch View Post
    I take it you've never seen Lucas shoot?
    Yes, I have seen him shoot a few times - seen him score too! He doesn't often miss the target .... he doesn't often shoot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilbertoSilva View Post
    Oh yeah, I know. Was just having a laugh at Coach saying Coutinho would never be able to strike a ball cleanly or improve his shooting because if he couldn't by the age of 21, he never would.
    Haha no I refuse to believe Coach said that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernRob View Post
    Haha no I refuse to believe Coach said that!
    Believe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Campos View Post
    Madness to think, but I've not been able to find a thread specifically dedicated to Phil Coutinho.

    Anyway, for the first time in as long as I can remember, Saturday's game didn't involve the 'shoot on sight' approach that we've seen in recent years, and I think it was much improved.

    Playing in that play-maker role, I think he can be one of the very best in the world. Added to that, the few well-timed bursts forward and obviously choosing when to strike it from distance more smartly, his decision-making matched the 'world class' level of ability that he possesses - something that, to be fair, it hasn't been before.

    Only one occasion, but hope we can see it more often.

    It's the only thing stopping him from reaching that level, in my opinion.
    I think he's been much better in this aspect for quite a while now, actually. For ages a lot of us were saying it was surely because he didn't have runners or options, so took on the shot instead and I think a few screamers got to his head and he certainly did shoot when passes to players in better positions were on. But since we've became a lot more fluid and free flowing, with runners everywhere, I think he's been much better picking his pass and turning down the 30 yard shots. Surely a lot to do with Klopp too.

    Give him runners and he'll excel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilbertoSilva View Post
    I think he's been much better in this aspect for quite a while now, actually. For ages a lot of us were saying it was surely because he didn't have runners or options, so took on the shot instead and I think a few screamers got to his head and he certainly did shoot when passes to players in better positions were on. But since we've became a lot more fluid and free flowing, with runners everywhere, I think he's been much better picking his pass and turning down the 30 yard shots. Surely a lot to do with Klopp too.

    Give him runners and he'll excel.
    I was honestly scratching my head there wondering why you thought he was better off wearing runners! I went down the futsal train of thought, and couldn't come back.
    'Okey doke, we'll leave it there so'
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilbertoSilva View Post
    I think he's been much better in this aspect for quite a while now, actually. For ages a lot of us were saying it was surely because he didn't have runners or options, so took on the shot instead and I think a few screamers got to his head and he certainly did shoot when passes to players in better positions were on. But since we've became a lot more fluid and free flowing, with runners everywhere, I think he's been much better picking his pass and turning down the 30 yard shots. Surely a lot to do with Klopp too.

    Give him runners and he'll excel.
    I think after the Burnley game, Phil has been instructed to not shoot from say 25 yards unless the shot is on.

    He could have shot....and missed for the first goal, but instead played in Lallana. I reckon this "Decoy run" tactic is something we'll see a lot of. It happened for the first goal as bit did against Leicester. Firmino made a diagonal run and took out centre backs. (I know I'm repeating myself but I'm illustrating the point). Coutinho then put Lallana through.

    It's all working well right now because it's so fluid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFirmino View Post
    I think after the Burnley game, Phil has been instructed to not shoot from say 25 yards unless the shot is on.

    He could have shot....and missed for the first goal, but instead played in Lallana. I reckon this "Decoy run" tactic is something we'll see a lot of. It happened for the first goal as bit did against Leicester. Firmino made a diagonal run and took out centre backs. (I know I'm repeating myself but I'm illustrating the point). Coutinho then put Lallana through.

    It's all working well right now because it's so fluid.
    I think its in his nature to a degree, a bit like Danny - he'll try the impossible at times because when push comes to shove and he's reacting and not necessarily thinking, it'll just happen. As he gets older perhaps it'll curb slightly and the experience will mean hell be less reactive and a touch more considered. But I wouldn't want to take that side of their games away...mainly because it'd detract from an other area.
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    For me he's one of the best creative midfielders we've ever had.

    You don't find many players like him around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernRob View Post
    Yes, I have seen him shoot a few times - seen him score too! He doesn't often miss the target .... he doesn't often shoot!
    Lol he couldnt score in a Brothel
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilbertoSilva View Post
    I think he's been much better in this aspect for quite a while now, actually. For ages a lot of us were saying it was surely because he didn't have runners or options, so took on the shot instead and I think a few screamers got to his head and he certainly did shoot when passes to players in better positions were on. But since we've became a lot more fluid and free flowing, with runners everywhere, I think he's been much better picking his pass and turning down the 30 yard shots. Surely a lot to do with Klopp too.

    Give him runners and he'll excel.
    Very good observation and wholeheartedly agree. Hope he/we can keep it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by LivapewlDivas View Post
    For me he's one of the best creative midfielders we've ever had.

    You don't find many players like him around.
    Indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebeastyboy View Post
    The little genius, just wish he could perform a little bit more consistently!
    This pretty much sums him up for me at the moment, the good thing is he is still years away from reaching his peak. Coutinho, Firmino and no doubt a few other players in our team will be considered as some of the best players in the world in the near future, that's assuming Klopp is still here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grudge View Post
    This pretty much sums him up for me at the moment, the good thing is he is still years away from reaching his peak. Coutinho, Firmino and no doubt a few other players in our team will be considered as some of the best players in the world in the near future, that's assuming Klopp is still here.
    This gets said a lot - he's too inconsistent, goes missing but that can/might change in the future. Dunno if I'm alone in this, but for me it's not really an issue. I think his decision making will improve as he gains more experience, and perhaps that will mean more of an overall effect on games. But I think the type of player he is will always mean he'll play in bursts and sometime will be targeted by the opposition to mark out of the game.
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