I know there is the Labour Leadership thread and the Brexit Aftermath thread but firstly the Lab leadership has been decided and the although the ramifications of the EU vote are still being felt and will be for years there is no politics in general thread. So I'm hoping folks will contribute with whatever political comment they have to offer as there sure is enough to debate about.
So Theresa May eh? Have to say that apart from the frankly ridiculous "Brexit is Brexit" statement (which makes no grammatical sense whatsoever), her very odd championing of grammar schools and the fact she is going to heavily dismay businesses up and down the land and universities with her anti-immigration rhetoric, I have been very impressed so far. Yes she has stolen a lot of Ed Milliband's last Labour manifesto and indeed Labour over the last 6 years, but there's no better than a repenting sinner as they say. Would we have heard Thatcher, Cameron or Osborne say the things she said today or on the steps of Downing St in June? Would any of her Tory rivals for the leadership - Fox Gove Johnson or Leadson have said the things she's said? No way. In fact id venture that no politician in the last 37 years has said what May has today. Not even Blair or Brown. Does she mean it? Is she going for the Lab vote?? Probably yes to both. Will she follow through and enact what she has promised? Im none too sure. Looking around the hall you could see people thinking, "Is this a Tory leader I see before me?" With a slim commons majority her opponents will give her a rough ride as will the rabid rw press. For that reason alone she may go to the country next spring if she can change the legislation.
So where do the others position themselves post Brexit and May? UKip are imploding. The Lib Dems are busy trying to find halls (or telephone boxes) small enough for their dwindling band. Farron is trying to reach out but he's on a hiding to nothing due to Clegg's legacy. Now I'm one who believes that yes, Clegg is probably a decent man with sound liberal traits. He made two huge errors. The climb down from the tuition promise and going into coalition with the most rw party for decades. A party set on dogmatic punishing cuts which choked off any recovery and damaged the poorest in society. All of this done by very rich people who didnt care a jot about their fellow citizens. And Clegg supported this trapsing through the lobbies with Osborne and Cameron on the bedroom tax. I will never forgive him for that. My area of work, mental; health has had to endure cut after cut along with the rest of the health service and education. A dreadful dreadful govt which has damaged Britain economically and socially.
As for Lab Im not sure I will see them elected again in my lifetime (and im a young 59!). Corbyn isnt a leader so much as being part of a collective movement. He reminds me of David Koresh the Wakko religious cult leader. His speech at the conference was very good but he needs to flesh out policy. The likes of the Daily Mail and Sun will crucify him. Do I agree with them? No of course not but they are taking him to task on what he believes in whilst I just do not see him as a leader or PM. Its like Liam Fox becoming leader of the Tories.
Of course all of this is against the back drop of Brexit where the great British people took back control and handed it over to Murdoch and Dacre. Where in the most graphic example of turkeys voting for Xmas we have rendered ourselves less powerful to the extent of putting ourselves out of jobs. Where we have ushered in hatred and such vileness that British people, with British passports are being attacked on our streets. We have also introduced into the English lexicon such phrases as Brexit means Brexit, surely nothing has ever been uttered which is more meaningless? On a daily basis we are told by the great bulk of our so called free press that all the horror stories about Brexit were and are untrue, ignoring the very salient fact that we are still IN the EU. Who do I think is in charge of Britain? Well despite her forcefulness its not May, its not even the finance houses in the City although they are a very close second. No, the people who are in charge, who have seen off Leveson, the Labour party, the EU and Cameron is the great British press..the right wing element (around 75-80%). They set the agenda (as they did in the referendum), they manipulate it and then largely influence what people say about almost anything.
Over to you with your contributions. Original thoughts welcome, press influenced thought welcome. Any views you have on what is happening politically will be great to read.