So why were Sunderland more able to run at us yesterday?
Why were they not steered into the channels towards the Fullbacks?
If you can't see that then it's a trip to Spec savers for you.
Henderson is very good at steering anyone trying to break on us into those channels. Can is still wondering where they came from!
The sunderland game is being over exaggerated, bar 2 pens it would have been a routine win in a not so great scenario but instead everyone wants to over play the loss of Henderson. Yes Emre had roughly a 20 min period when he was abit sloppy but the rest of the game he was fine.
If Can is so easily the better defender, why do all the stats say otherwise?
Again, I'll ask you to actually prove your point, again you will do anything but.
When they are both fit, I know who will be playing.
I rip Can alot to be honest, sometimes fairly and some times unfairly, there's no doubt he's talented but you cannot dwell on the ball as much as he does in the Premier League he is the momentum killer.
All he has to do is quicken it up keep the ball moving, that one of only couple reasons probably why Henderson starts more because he does just that, and his positional play is superior.
im going to be a downer here and say that both arent that great at playing dm and of the two, would rather can as a box to box as he offers more of a goal threat.
really feel we need a top class dm next season, but it wont happen. in saying that, i hope hendo is fit for united. i dont rate him highly at all, but its clear he is our best option there atm by a country mile
We're just not going to agree on this so I suggest we both stop and wait and see what happens in the coming month and year.
I predict Can will be struggling to get a match day squad position once Klopp has had his summer transfer window.
Can is a whole 4 years younger than Henderson. I'll be shocked if he isn't better than current Henderson at 26.
Why is this reduced to Can or Henderson.
Neither have been particularly outstanding in their respective roles. Both lack attributes needed to play these positions too.
Both are decent players who could flourish s support players if they were played alongside a proper, specialist midfielder in the holding position. That to me is the most obvious solution to our problems.
Choosing the space to move into is also something we have missing. It all boils down to us having good players in midfield but really top class? No. Can you get away with that? I don't think so.
Can just hasn't been definitive in much of what he's done this season though still time if he can build some rhythm and develop the obvious talent he has.
Perhaps we'll have more options available in time so it just won't be about these two but with limited players for that position, the debate naturally arrives to Can and Henderson
It shouldn't have to be about Can vs Hendo.
I am actually a big Can fan. Strong, powerful, passionate, leader, decent passer and a good shot on him. He's been pushed further forward and he is getting in the goals.
But he switches off too much - at the moment he switches off further up the pitch and loses the ball. If he did that as regularly further back, we would be in all sorts of trouble - more than we concede now. He also doesn't pick his passes well, and makes poor decisions regularly.
He is young though, and will get better - but his natural game is that of a box-to-box or AM. He hasn't got the discipline to be a DM, and I don't think he will get it either.
Henderson is 5 months into a new role, had a dodgy first few games, but has been the best DM in the league this season bar Kante ever since. That isn't hyperbole. It isn't Hendo loving. The stats, pundit feedback, media and just watching the games will give you that impression.
You may not think he's number 2. You might think 1-2 from Fernandinho, Coquelin, Matic etc are better. But to say he's not been good enough or worse just proves you as either a WUM, someone with an agenda against him or just someone who doesn't know much about football.
Can we improve on Hendo? As someone has pointed out, most teams can improve on players. Are we in a position to? Probably. Does Klopp want to? That is the question - he chose Hendo for this role in the summer (he did DOK, before you start rattling off fiction about it being because Can was injured), kept him as captain when he didn't have to, and even when all other CMs have been fit, Hendo hasn't been dropped.
Maybe Klopp actually rates him?
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