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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    I have said numerous times that it's very rare that then just get his number one target

    Come the summer the likelihood that Klopp would have to look for alternatives

    What's the difference between finding alternative in January and in the summer ?

    The second point is believing that there's only one player who can improve or fit Klopp system ?

    Where in a world where there's thousands of thousands of football players with huge potential out there.

    My final point is everyone is obsessed with buying the best players

    is not having 11 world class players is about the depth of the squad and having adequate players who can come in keep the tempo and the shape of everything without destructing anything

    And it's been one of a problems 20 years not having adequate backup player
    We have loads of back-up players. Heck, we are fielding a half a dozen every game with our strongest team. We need to bring in first XI material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    We have loads of back-up players. Heck, we are fielding a half a dozen every game with our strongest team. We need to bring in first XI material.
    So you saying

    Past are best 10 players Karius, Clyne, Matip, Milner, Henderson, Wijnaldum,Lallana, Mane, Firmino, Coutino.

    And two back up players Origi and Gomez.

    We about 8 other players are good enough to fit the system ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    We have loads of back-up players. Heck, we are fielding a half a dozen every game with our strongest team. We need to bring in first XI material.
    we need imho 22 first 11 standard player and then the kids.....

    and we are a fair way off having 22 first 11 standard players
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    So you saying

    Past are best 10 players Karius, Clyne, Matip, Milner, Henderson, Wijnaldum,Lallana, Mane, Firmino, Coutino.

    And two back up players Origi and Gomez.

    We about 8 other players are good enough to fit the system ?
    As far as I'm concerned, Karius, Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum are squad players. We need a keeper, a CB partner for Matip, a proper LB, a quality DM and a pacy wide attacker to make up a challenging XI. M The rest are are just good option back-ups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    It's not the tactics or formation

    When past are best 10 best players we only got 2 good squad players about three or four potential players.

    That's why the whole wheels have fallen off the bus
    And that is the price you pay for not being in Europe, this is what you seem to fail to understand, your answer as proved in your last 200 posts is buy buy buy but do you honestly think if it was that affordable and simple he would not do that, I mean carrying extra quality squad players is not easy at the best of times but doing it with no European football is tough, so its a question of building us back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, Karius, Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum are squad players. We need a keeper, a CB partner for Matip, a proper LB, a quality DM and a pacy wide attacker to make up a challenging XI. M The rest are are just good option back-ups.
    So drop Coutino for fast attacking wide player ?

    Even if you see Milner Henderson and Wijnaldum squad players that will still leave us short of squad players
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    we need imho 22 first 11 standard player and then the kids.....

    and we are a fair way off having 22 first 11 standard players
    I think 6 of our starting XI are of enough quality to win the league. The other 5 plus a few more and some of the kids are of enough quality to make up the bench and squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davevietnam View Post
    And that is the price you pay for not being in Europe, this is what you seem to fail to understand, your answer as proved in your last 200 posts is buy buy buy but do you honestly think if it was that affordable and simple he would not do that, I mean carrying extra quality squad players is not easy at the best of times but doing it with no European football is tough, so its a question of building us back up.
    Good post. Some people on here don't seem to understand that simple context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davevietnam View Post
    And that is the price you pay for not being in Europe, this is what you seem to fail to understand, your answer as proved in your last 200 posts is buy buy buy but do you honestly think if it was that affordable and simple he would not do that, I mean carrying extra quality squad players is not easy at the best of times but doing it with no European football is tough, so its a question of building us back up.
    The reason why I post 200 times the same thing is because 26 years of the same thing is happening every year with every manager

    Going normal season you have two cup competitions and a League competition so you're saying that we only need 12 players going into a season like that but in Europe we need 18 plus players

    Strange thinking that for the last 20+ years with done exactly like that and it's cost is zero development
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    So drop Coutino for fast attacking wide player ?

    Even if you see Milner Henderson and Wijnaldum squad players that will still leave us short of squad players
    new GK

    Clyne - Matip - new CB - new LB

    new DM

    Lallana - Coutinho

    Mane - Firmino - new WG

    That's how I see the XI of the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    Probably gonna stay home as I'm too embarrassed to face the lads at the pub. And I've got a 24 of delicious Stiegl in the fridge.
    Hahaha. Nice. Sons got a game later I ll stay home. Don't want to deal with other parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    The reason why I post 200 times the same thing is because 26 years of the same thing is happening every year with every manager

    Going normal season you have two cup competitions and a League competition so you're saying that we only need 12 players going into a season like that but in Europe we need 18 plus players

    Strange thinking that for the last 20+ years with done exactly like that and it's cost is zero development
    No you are saying that not me, which is pretty dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    I have said numerous times that it's very rare that then just get his number one target

    Come the summer the likelihood that Klopp would have to look for alternatives

    What's the difference between finding alternative in January and in the summer ?

    The second point is believing that there's only one player who can improve or fit Klopp system ?

    Where in a world where there's thousands of thousands of football players with huge potential out there.

    My final point is everyone is obsessed with buying the best players

    is not having 11 world class players is about the depth of the squad and having adequate players who can come in keep the tempo and the shape of everything without destructing anything

    And it's been one of a problems 20 years not having adequate backup player
    Oh so Klopp is lying then? And u are that much better of a judge of players than him so perhaps u should send him a list of players whom will fit into this squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    I think 6 of our starting XI are of enough quality to win the league. The other 5 plus a few more and some of the kids are of enough quality to make up the bench and squad.
    6 lemme see

    matip firmino coutinho mane lallana and ???????

    i think karius will be in that list but not yet

    all others could be upgraded on...

    clyne lovren milner hendo wijnauldum origi all make good squad players

    i think we need five too but clyne is porb the least required of that list... and i would use milner as right back instead of him at times next season
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    Quote Originally Posted by canookiewookie View Post
    Hahaha. Nice. Sons got a game later I ll stay home. Don't want to deal with other parents.
    Get yourself off and support your son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeautifulHistory View Post
    So you saying

    Past are best 10 players Karius, Clyne, Matip, Milner, Henderson, Wijnaldum,Lallana, Mane, Firmino, Coutino.

    And two back up players Origi and Gomez.

    We about 8 other players are good enough to fit the system ?
    Henderson. Milner. GW and Lallana can easily be upgraded. Especially the first two.

    Milner has done well but we need better there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canookiewookie View Post
    Hahaha. Nice. Sons got a game later I ll stay home. Don't want to deal with other parents.
    Sounds like good idea to me. I'm just gonna stick in the kitchen and cook. That always takes my mind of things and I really enjoy it. Got a pork belly and a head of cabbage to work with. Should be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canookiewookie View Post
    Henderson. Milner. GW and Lallana can easily be upgraded. Especially the first two.

    Milner has done well but we need better there.
    to be honest its a shame milner isn t a few years younger cos i think he d make a better right back than clyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    new GK

    Clyne - Matip - new CB - new LB

    new DM

    Lallana - Coutinho

    Mane - Firmino - new WG

    That's how I see the XI of the future.
    Karius my brother is our future Gk. He's very good. Just wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    to be honest its a shame milner isn t a few years younger cos i think he d make a better right back than clyne
    Yes. I like Clyne. He's solid. But I think Milner could of been quite good actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    Sounds like good idea to me. I'm just gonna stick in the kitchen and cook. That always takes my mind of things and I really enjoy it. Got a pork belly and a head of cabbage to work with. Should be fun.
    Never mind, I'm bet some women like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    6 lemme see

    matip firmino coutinho mane lallana and ???????

    i think karius will be in that list but not yet

    all others could be upgraded on...

    clyne lovren milner hendo wijnauldum origi all make good squad players

    i think we need five too but clyne is porb the least required of that list... and i would use milner as right back instead of him at times next season
    Exactly my thinking. Clyne and Karius are borderline. And Milner at RB might be a good shout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canookiewookie View Post
    Karius my brother is our future Gk. He's very good. Just wait and see.
    I agree, in the long term. But I think we should replace Mignolet with an upgrade until Karius is ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Never mind, I'm bet some women like that.
    Some chicks aren't hung up about looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    new GK

    Clyne - Matip - new CB - new LB

    new DM

    Lallana - Coutinho

    Mane - Firmino - new WG

    That's how I see the XI of the future.
    perfect if we want to continue conceding loads of goals
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    Some chicks aren't hung up about looks.
    Luckily for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LW94 View Post
    perfect if we want to continue conceding loads of goals
    What are you talking about? Do you think an upgrade on GK, CB, LB and DM will leave us as vulnerable as we are now? That's 4 of the 6 defensively oriented positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Luckily for me.
    And me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    What are you talking about? Do you think an upgrade on GK, CB, LB and DM will leave us as vulnerable as we are now? That's 4 of the 6 defensively oriented positions.
    Lallana and Coutinho in CM far too easily bullied. We've to win the midfield battle, we won't with them two.

    If we only have 3 defensive minded players on the pitch we'll always be caught on the counter.
    2 on 2 or 3 on 3, it doesn't matter how good your Cb's are, they have no chance
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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck33 View Post
    And me.
    Really, I'd imagined you had the look of a Canadian David Niven.
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