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    Quote Originally Posted by geo1122 View Post
    I never said you did. I pointed out earlier that the ref would normally wait for all the pieces to be in place before blowing his whistle. I also think the wall could have played up a bit and been a yard further forward, so the ref had some work to do. Mistakes happen. We know Migs is prone to errors. I'm just glad that it happened early enough in the game for us to react, whether people solely blame him or not.

    I thought we would lose the game before kickoff, so I'm ok with how things turned out. I can see us turning another corner soon as well.
    No argument there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    You can nit pick over the role of others.

    But the blame lies fairly and squarely at the feet of Simon.

    The ball going in the net is irrelevant.

    The keeper has the responsibility to be ready when the ref blows the whistle.

    He wasn't...and regardless of what happened after the whistle was blown...it was a fundamental and amateurish error.
    Everyone has that same responsibility, and Migs was not the only one not at it.

    Regardless of how bad a job Migs did the rest of the team are not blameless. We were all standing around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Campos View Post
    Apologise if my point wasn't very clear. It was about people contradicting themselves in favour of supporting Mignolet. Some people were saying that others couldn't comment on whether Luiz would take it because it was speculation, before saying Mignolet wasn't to blame because he wouldn't have saved it (ignoring the fact that this is speculation too).
    You think he would have saved it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    Everyone has that same responsibility, and Migs was not the only one not at it.

    Regardless of how bad a job Migs did the rest of the team are not blameless. We were all standing around.
    Please. Common sense. Just doesnt work here. .

    It was all Mignolets fault. Klopp will remove him now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canookiewookie View Post
    Please. Common sense. Just doesnt work here. .

    It was all Mignolets fault. Klopp will remove him now.
    I doubt JK will drop him. Pen save did make up for it in a way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Absolutely. They'd kicked off again for the restart before Mignolet noticed anything.
    For a short moment in time he was like a lost and lonely Wildebeest abandoned on the Serengeti, then a sudden noise like thunder brought him back, **** me what just happened, I am the Liverpool goalie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    Everyone has that same responsibility, and Migs was not the only one not at it.

    Regardless of how bad a job Migs did the rest of the team are not blameless. We were all standing around.
    I don't really see what the rest of the team should have been doing that they were weren't. There were three players in the wall looking at the ball and the rest were picking up opponents.
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    I hope karius gets another chance between now and the end of the season. With no cup games left we may not see him again this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davevietnam View Post
    For a short moment in time he was like a lost and lonely Wildebeest abandoned on the Serengeti, then a sudden noise like thunder brought him back, **** me what just happened, I am the Liverpool goalie.
    Yeah, it was like he had just landed on that spot having been beamed down by Mr Sulu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    I don't really see what the rest of the team should have been doing that they were weren't. There were three players in the wall looking at the ball and the rest were picking up opponents.
    They didn't jump.

    It's ALL their fault.

    Well, at least 23%
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    I said last night at halftime that Mignolet wasn't the only one to blame, felt the wall could have done a slightly better job as well.

    I'm more frustrated with the referee, was a soft free kick to give in the first place for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canookiewookie View Post
    Please. Common sense. Just doesnt work here. .

    It was all Mignolets fault. Klopp will remove him now.
    Lets hope so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDilkington View Post
    Was an amateur mistake last night, not good enough.

    He won us a point, but lost us two !!
    Haha perfectly put
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernkraft400 View Post
    They didn't jump.

    It's ALL their fault.

    Well, at least 23%
    Yeah, but that was Luiz' fault for taking it too quick. You could quite clearly hear Henderson say 'Right altogether, after 3 jump' and only get to 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canookiewookie View Post
    Wrong. And I thought the wall was ready?

    The whole team was asleep. Not just Mignolet.

    Perhaps u can comprehend that.
    The wall is the keepers responsibility.

    Being ready for the whistle is the keepers responsibility.

    Actually noticing that the whistle is blown and the free kick has been taken...is the keepers responsibility.

    Whatever the responsibility of others...those things are indisputable.

    He made a complete arse of it...it doesn't mean he should be dropped or sold on the back of it.

    And he deserves credit for keeping his head up and saving the penalty.

    But he made a massive error and no amount of deflecting changes that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernkraft400 View Post
    They didn't jump.

    It's ALL their fault.

    Well, at least 23%
    By the way Topper, I was still chuckling at this one from last night this morning.

    'My stream was 5 minutes behind and I still saw it before him'
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Yeah, but that was Luiz' fault for taking it too quick. You could quite clearly hear Henderson say 'Right altogether, after 3 jump' and only get to 2.
    We need a blame pie chart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDilkington View Post
    Was an amateur mistake last night, not good enough.

    He won us a point, but lost us two !!
    Agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernkraft400 View Post
    We need a blame pie chart.
    We had one but Charlie Adam ate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    The wall is the keepers responsibility.

    Being ready for the whistle is the keepers responsibility.

    Actually noticing that the whistle is blown and the free kick has been taken...is the keepers responsibility.

    Whatever the responsibility of others...those things are indisputable.

    He made a complete arse of it...it doesn't mean he should be dropped or sold on the back of it.

    And he deserves credit for keeping his head up and saving the penalty.

    But he made a massive error and no amount of deflecting changes that.
    Agree with every word of that, **** happens and you move on, I would be far more worried if it was a dropped cross missed punch or any of his old antics, he has been playing well showing big improvements, hopefully Klopp will be looking at that rather than a 1 off crazy error this season that will probably never ever be repeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canookiewookie View Post
    You think he would have saved it?
    That doesn't even matter.

    You've said people can't speculate as to whether Luiz would take the shot if Mignolet was looking but are doing exactly the same by saying that he woudn't have saved it so it doesn't matter.

    The only thing we can say is that Mignolet wasn't looking and Luiz hit the ball into an empty goal.

    Mignolet error.
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    People saying hes better than Karius....

    its marginal.


    We need new keepers
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    I blame Luiz he should not be allowed to take the free until migs is fully awake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    We had one but Charlie Adam ate it.
    And the fishbone diagram.

    Animal.
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    ...well Migs said he didn't hear the whistle and the free kick was hit early.

    Looking at the replay too on the old YouTiube, doesn't look like he was ready either, he was still shouting at players and not even looking at Luiz at the run up to the ball.

    But Lallana, Henderson and Firmino were stood in the wall all watching Luiz run up and strike. Coutinho peels off the wall too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    ...well Migs said he didn't hear the whistle and the free kick was hit early.

    Looking at the replay too on the old YouTiube, doesn't look like he was ready either, he was still shouting at players and not even looking at Luiz at the run up to the ball.

    But Lallana, Henderson and Firmino were stood in the wall all watching Luiz run up and strike. Coutinho peels off the wall too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davevietnam View Post
    Anyone any idea what he was looking and shouting at , I mean it looked so far left of the free kick point and area of possible play, its a puzzle.
    look at this pic, gives you a better idea of what's going on - https://twitter.com/ROUNDTHEBEND__/s...36135329452032
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacFoley'1975 View Post
    ...well Migs said he didn't hear the whistle and the free kick was hit early.

    Looking at the replay too on the old YouTiube, doesn't look like he was ready either, he was still shouting at players and not even looking at Luiz at the run up to the ball.

    But Lallana, Henderson and Firmino were stood in the wall all watching Luiz run up and strike. Coutinho peels off the wall too.
    tbf I didn't hear the whistle either but you can clearly hear it on the broadcast. Isn't the ref meant to check with the keeper before blowing his whistle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LW94 View Post
    look at this pic, gives you a better idea of what's going on - https://twitter.com/ROUNDTHEBEND__/s...36135329452032
    Apparently Diego Costa shouted 'Look a Kestrel'. What a cheat he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LW94 View Post
    tbf I didn't hear the whistle either but you can clearly hear it on the broadcast. Isn't the ref meant to check with the keeper before blowing his whistle?
    That was Howard Webb.
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