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    Quote Originally Posted by PejiVanbasten View Post
    Saved a poorly taken penalty. The goal was 100percent keepers fault. The wall was in place, he just did not have the concentration. Reff blew the whistles and four seconds later luiz scores. Poor poor keeping. Simple as.
    Not even close.
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    If it wasn't for some of his penalty saves this season he'd be gone by now? I think it's just a soft coincidence that no one wants to be a keeper for us and we don't have CL football.
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    Liverpool FC transfer news: Marseille eyeing shock summer swoop for Simon Mignolet

    Liverpool goalkeeper Simon Mignolet has emerged as a transfer target for Marseille.

    The Belgian's Anfield days looked to be numbered when Jurgen Klopp bought in Loris Karius during the summer.

    However, despite losing his place earlier this term, Mignolet has secured the NO.1 spot once again, playing 19 times in the Premier League to Karius' 10.

    His long-term future at Liverpool remains in doubt, though, and he could be offered the chance of a fresh start in France.

    According to reports in France, Marseille have identified Mignolet as an option with a new goalkeeper high on their list of summer priorities.

    Sporting Lisbon shot-stopper Rui Patricio is said to be their first choice but, should they fail to land the 29-year-old, they are set to turn their attentions to Mignolet.

    Marseille are funded by American businessman Frank McCourt and have the means to spend big this summer.


    Read more at http://talksport.com/football/liverp...vK7k0sPjEhi.99
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    I'm glad he's doing reasonably well it just means we can get a good price for him if we decide to sell him for a better keeper.
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    Mignolet is not a commanding presence and does not make big saves at big moments on big occasions which are required of both top keepers and title winning keepers. I don't trust him in goal and have not since Pepe Reina in his prime.
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    Who do we blame, Simon or keeper coach? I've never seen a keeper stay on his line so much, coming out on a corner puts the other team under pressure. I blame the keeper for the first goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertojones View Post
    Who do we blame, Simon or keeper coach? I've never seen a keeper stay on his line so much, coming out on a corner puts the other team under pressure. I blame the keeper for the first goal.
    You're daft. Can let Jagielka have a free header at the near post, Mignolet had no chance to affect that play.
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    If the keeper commands his area a bit more that puts the opposition under more pressure. Migs let's the ball pass him to either the defence or the attack! If he comes out more and collects the ball or clears it this rules any of this out.
    And you're right, I am daft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertojones View Post
    Who do we blame, Simon or keeper coach? I've never seen a keeper stay on his line so much, coming out on a corner puts the other team under pressure. I blame the keeper for the first goal.
    I blame the atrocious marking.
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    Don't think he can do anything about the goal tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertojones View Post
    Who do we blame, Simon or keeper coach? I've never seen a keeper stay on his line so much, coming out on a corner puts the other team under pressure. I blame the keeper for the first goal.
    Were there others I missed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    I blame the atrocious marking.
    Yeah, by no means am I Migs' biggest fan, but you know there is an agenda if somebody is blaming him for the goal today.
    Last edited by TattooedByAgger; 1-4-17 at 15:39.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedByAgger View Post
    Were there others I missed?
    I posted this during the game. Always have a feeling he'll let more than 1 in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedByAgger View Post
    Yeah, by not means am I Migs' biggest fan, but you know there is an agenda if somebody is blaming him for the goal today.

    I openly admit I'm not a fan of his or the keeping coach. Probably being harsh on him today, but think he could have done better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedByAgger View Post
    Yeah, by not means am I Migs' biggest fan, but you know there is an agenda if somebody is blaming him for the goal today.
    I'm really not a huge fan either (and still think we should replace him next season), but blaming him for the goal today is seriously clutching at straws.
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    Todays goal for Everton came after a corner. That is a problem since some years now, with no solution in sight. From the open play Mignolet made some good saves in my point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertojones View Post
    Who do we blame, Simon or keeper coach? I've never seen a keeper stay on his line so much, coming out on a corner puts the other team under pressure. I blame the keeper for the first goal.
    So it's the keepers fault Jagielka had a free run for the flick on? Are you stupid?

    Our defending as a whole for set plays is non existent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LivapewlDivas View Post
    So it's the keepers fault Jagielka had a free run for the flick on? Are you stupid?

    Our defending as a whole for set plays is non existent.
    Yeah I'm stupid. There, how you going to come back now?
    If the keeper commands the area perhaps the defence would get some confidence, no??
    Should I call you names now?
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    It's embarrassing knowing teams like West Brom have a much better goalkeeper than ours. How have we let that happen?
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    It was poor defending. It's that simple really. I can't fault Migs for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geo1122 View Post
    It was poor defending. It's that simple really. I can't fault Migs for it.
    Hes still the common denominator in this defensive problem.
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    He's getting blame for their goal, really?

    Also, excellent save from Holgate 2nd half after the shot was deflected.
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    I know he's never going to be a world class keeper, but I think on the whole Mignolet's performances have definitely improved recently. Maybe it's having Karius waiting in the wings?
    I feel a lot less nervous when he's going for the ball now, and he looks more confident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geo1122 View Post
    It was poor defending. It's that simple really. I can't fault Migs for it.
    Agreed. I am the first to point out when I think he could have done better but there's not really much he could have done with that one, yesterday. Strange that a lot of people think he could?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Campos View Post
    It wasn't a bad idea coming out... It was a bad idea coming out slowly/late and not actually running at where the ball would be when Welbeck was going to hit it.

    I've said it many times, but again, he made it very hard for him to keep it out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaBY5nMZAME

    Hesitant coming out, very small in his shape, runs past the ball...

    Compare it with two examples from Karius:

    First (https://youtu.be/GlNpDjRaTUI?t=53s), quick, big and straight at the player. Slightly different in that the ball is at a static angle (i.e. it's not been threaded through and constantly at a different angle relative to the goal), but still a more positive approach.

    The second (https://youtu.be/GlNpDjRaTUI?t=3m24s), he flies at the ball and makes sure it isn't getting past him in any other way that up and over - a tricky finish. Big shape, quick off his line and gives the defence a chance.

    Mignolet isn't too bad when he's on his line but bring him 2 yards off and his judgement goes all over the place.
    Anybody notice Mignolet doing this again on the first one on Wednesday?

    Bizarre and gave himself no chance to save it again with about 3/4 of the goal to aim for.
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    Mignolet has conceded 27 goals in 21 games from 65 shots on target.
    Karius 12 in 10 games from 32 shots on target.

    That's 58 saves between them, the EPL team average this season is 87.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    He's getting blame for their goal, really?

    Also, excellent save from Holgate 2nd half after the shot was deflected.
    Haters will hate
    Some never give him credit
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    Migs has also not looked good both are week keepers
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAISLEYISNO1 View Post
    Mignolet has conceded 27 goals in 21 games from 65 shots on target.
    Karius 12 in 10 games from 32 shots on target.

    That's 58 saves between them, the EPL team average this season is 87.
    Which would mean Mignolet has saved 38 shots out of 65 (58%) and Karius 20 out of 32 (63%) Any arguments ST and others may have made over difficulty of opposition etc, both would have been facing 3 shots on target per game, Karius fractionally more in fact (around 0.1 so it's an observation to counter rounding speculation/bias)
    People will believe what they want to believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by raybarnes View Post
    Migs has also not looked good both are week keepers
    Mignolet has never been a great keeper, but Karius has time to adjust to the league he's playing in and is still relatively young. You make it sound like the two are starting from the same point
    People will believe what they want to believe
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