Given what Trump has bragged about doing with his hands, every woman is probably relieved when he keeps his hands away from them.
Comey testifying today, one way or another, we'll finally find out what the hell has been looked at/dismissed/still ongoing at the FBI regarding Trump links to Russia.
Either way, certainly not presidential.
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It's quite possible Trump is childish. It's quite possible this is naturally him, it's also possible he's playing a role. A role where a society 'dumbed down' seeking drama and headlines and entertainment and increasing in conflict, sick of political correctness he's simply the entertainment to cover the important things.
The question I asked though was a reference to the Trump in this situation being called 'non presidential' means people have a predetermined idea of presidential which means presidents are pretty much decided before they arrive and perhaps Trump was the counter culture. The interesting part is what do people here view as presidential?
Let's say we go along with the 'subjective' view that Trump was annoyed by Merkel. What is a presidential reaction? How does a president react?
Didn't realise the term 'Presidential' was gonna be controversial. I assumed people would know what I meant. I use it as a colloquialism I guess.
Anyhow, dictionaries struggle with the word but the nearest match would be "having a bearing or demeanour befitting a president; dignified and confident".
So I guess it is what the public generally expect from their president based on past presidents and current social norms. There will be outliers, there will be slight variations. But the gist will be similar - even from those who want a different type of president.
I often hear the same word strong, confident, dignified, diplomatic. The notions of these 'qualities' and our understanding of term is really the most interesting thing and perhaps the most controversial. For example we are taught to value presidential behaviour when it shows a complete lack of emotion. The robotic Obama-speak.
This is a slight digression but links into Trump and our perception of presidential behaviour. If was discovered through tests that people interpret the exact same facial expressions completely differently depending on the context. In films the same face (with no emotion at all) will be seen as sad, emotional, thoughtful, angry depending on how the editing of the film is done and the context of the scene.
The blank canvass. We assign our own interpretation and project our own beliefs into that blank canvass. Presidents drop bombs, cause suffering and they show no emotion. That's being strong. A disaster or awful events happens and they show no emotion and we say dignified. A person that has complete certainty in what they say is often somebody who cares not for others opinions or possibly doesn't care but we may see confidence.
Even political correctness is the embodiment of hiding your feelings for fear others will judge. Presidential behaviour of never saying anything that could cause offence simply lends itself to promotion of concealment. Hiding everything, joy, anger, annoyance, rage, sorrow, pain and we see that as great. Concealment of personal beliefs of feelings, complete lack of emotion in all and every situation is pretty much the accepted 'presidential behaviour' and then we wonder why our governments don't seem ti care and why they always lie.
The first lie is the projection. I absolutely agree with you all by the way Trump is not somebody i could ever suggest could or should be even considered for president. Be careful though if you have an idea of accepted presidential behaviour because it is generally lack of compassion, lack of emotion, concealment of intent and not caring for your opinion.
It's much easier to conceal when you don't care about those you're lying to. If you see that as strong, confident, dignified then that's your projection. In a world of individuals being constrained more and more to have such a narrow and easily manipulated view of presidential reaction is part of the problem.
So, Re: Comeys testimony. Confirms probe into Russian interference in election and possible collusion(co-ordination) Between Kremlin and Trump associates and whether any crimes were committed. Authorized by the Justice department to say so (despite his previous stance).
Comey "we cannot do our work well or fairly if we just start talking about it while were doing it"
No wire tap at Trump Towers
Its on live now if anyone is interested.
Theres a lot of "I cant comment" coming up in specific questions regarding Stone and Manafort so anyone looking for answers now, might be a little disappointed.
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Comey's expression basically says "hmm, in hindsight, I think Hillary would have been preferable"
A lot of it isn't looking good especially the 2018 budget (which I doubt will be passed in its current form), and god help those who wanted environmental protections or lower taxes for the poor or the ACA sorting out so everyone has healthcare etc etc.
Raiding pretty much every department for a massive defence hike is just plain irresponsible to the country hes in charge of.
We know Hillary wouldn't have have been tweeting about TV ratings for The Apprentice or parroting things she heard that day on FOX News, or bewildering the Chancellor of Germany with conspiracy theories. Trump is no different now to how he's been since the day he announced his candidacy. There's never going to be a point where he miraculously changes and becomes a rational human being. If you're waiting for that, you'll be waiting forever.
All Trump claims are slowly being seen as baseless and why is that? Firstly because they are and secondly because he is the villain and doing exactly what he is accusing opponents of. So he comes out with these claims so as to divert everyone's attention. FBI etc all spend time investigating his claims whereas they should be looking at what he's done. Its a well known tactic of guilty people.
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He's being enabled by media groups who should no better. That's why he knows he can basically tweet anything and not much will be done about it. CNN in particular are the worst. He publically demeans and insults them, yet yesterday, they still carried his rally live and completely unchallenged, for an event that served no purpose whatsoever other than personally glorifying him, refusing to call him an outright liar despite ample cause, and persistently giving his cronies like Jeffrey Lord airtime to act as apologists for everything he does.
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.@SeanHannity back in October: A president under FBI investigation wld present "a major Constitutional crisis".
and Kellyanne Conway saying very similar things as well about a president under investigation by the FBI.
Most honest people I know are not under FBI investigation, let alone two. https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/792159005774794753 …
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