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    Quote Originally Posted by spider-neil View Post
    I think Sakho is an excellent defender but struggles badly when returning from injury (just like Coutinho). The problem is he gets injured, at lot, so struggled for form at lot. But when he is fully fit and on it he is excellent as you saw in our run in last season and for Palace this season.
    The Italian boys are excellent defenders. Koscielny is an excellent defender. Van Dijk and Pepe are excellent.

    Sakho is good on his day. But like you say, he constantly gets injured and it takes time for him to get going again, so what's the point in him?
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    People really need to move on....

    Sakho is done at LFC.
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    4 more pages must mean interesting conversation... Oh
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    People just can't accept that Sakho is good centre back (for whatever reason) and better than four options we have right now.

    People also hate that Sakho is doing well and are praying that he makes a high profile mistake in his next game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIOS View Post
    But you do think one is better than the other, or not?
    No. I don't. Both offer the same average defending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilbril View Post
    Even if you don't want both, you might have to play one of them. Just look at out defensive lineups.

    If you assume you will never have to play one of them it doesn't matter. But that was not the question.
    And how many times have I said I couldn't care less who plays as both are average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machtig Maus View Post
    People really need to move on....

    Sakho is done at LFC.
    This...all day.

    But our fans love to big up players who aren't in the first XI...be they on the bench, out of favour, injured, out on loan or sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrams View Post
    And how many times have I said I couldn't care less who plays as both are average.
    Alright, if you classify players into average and don't see any difference those two we simply disagree. Different opinions, fair enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machtig Maus View Post
    You've changed your tune...

    You were singing his praises last season and said I was an idiot for saying Sakho would be nowhere near the first team this year.
    No I haven't.

    Regularly said that we need to revamp our whole defence last season and said that bringing in Matip won't make a big difference as he needs a top partner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Monk- View Post
    The Italian boys are excellent defenders. Koscielny is an excellent defender. Van Dijk and Pepe are excellent.

    Sakho is good on his day. But like you say, he constantly gets injured and it takes time for him to get going again, so what's the point in him?
    Sakho was prefereed to Koscielny for the national team. There is certainly not much between them. Would be happy to have van Dijk
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    News flash, our defence was also absolutely **** when Sakho was here. People acting as if it's the same as selling Suarez and bringing in Lambert.

    People also like to rewrite history with his last few games for the club. He was great against Man United and Everton. He was awful at Southampton, at home to Dortmund and his first 45 minutes at home to Spurs was one of the worst centre back performances in recent history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scousechrisj View Post
    I'm scraping no barrels, thank you very much. Maybe get yourself familiar with the facts.

    In ANY job role, if you acted an unprofessional idiot and made your boss look stupid in front of national and international media, you'd be fired.
    In ANY job role, especially one that is in a high profile industry, if you go on to social media and make it pretty obvious you are criticising your employer or line manager, you'd be given final warning or fired. Clearly you have never held a management position if you don't know such basic information. So maybe think again before you try and make a sarcy comment back.
    Hey stupid, remember Cantona, Rio Ferdinand, Luis Suarez, etc
    Do your research before spewing out sanctimonious nonsense . Him and Matip could have changed our tajectory.
    Klopp has every right to do whatever he likes but people like you don't need to scrape the bottom of the barel to justify your warped view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DahoudAreYou View Post
    News flash, our defence was also absolutely **** when Sakho was here. People acting as if it's the same as selling Suarez and bringing in Lambert.People also like to rewrite history with his last few games for the club. He was great against Man United and Everton. He was awful at Southampton, at home to Dortmund and his first 45 minutes at home to Spurs was one of the worst centre back performances in recent history.
    Out of how many matches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DahoudAreYou View Post
    News flash, our defence was also absolutely **** when Sakho was here. People acting as if it's the same as selling Suarez and bringing in Lambert.

    People also like to rewrite history with his last few games for the club. He was great against Man United and Everton. He was awful at Southampton, at home to Dortmund and his first 45 minutes at home to Spurs was one of the worst centre back performances in recent history.
    It's also true that Sakho has only ever had Skrtel (brainless) and Lovren (equally brainless) to play alongside while at Liverpool. I think Matip's calming influence would've brought out the best in Sakho. We'll never know anyway, but you can spin it whatever way you like at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batteries View Post
    People just can't accept that Sakho is good centre back (for whatever reason) and better than four options we have right now.People also hate that Sakho is doing well and are praying that he makes a high profile mistake in his next game.
    You know what they call those people? DETRACTORS
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider-neil View Post
    I think Sakho is an excellent defender but struggles badly when returning from injury (just like Coutinho). The problem is he gets injured, at lot, so struggled for form at lot. But when he is fully fit and on it he is excellent as you saw in our run in last season and for Palace this season.
    Very fair and accurate comment. He is solid once he gets going but gets injured a lot and rusty after each injury. To paint him as rubbish by some here is stupid in the extreme
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    This...all day.

    But our fans love to big up players who aren't in the first XI...be they on the bench, out of favour, injured, out on loan or sold.
    Joe Allen is better than Wijnaldum too.

    We should just bring them all back, Sakho, Allen the lot. Miraculously we won't finish 7th, because they have become incredible since they went to Stoke and Palace.

    Some serious nut cases on here.
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    Defender impressing on loan at Crystal Palace - and Reds looking to benefit

    BY NEIL JONES - LIVERPOOL ECHO

    Liverpool are hoping to benefit from Mamadou Sakho’s loan spell at Crystal Palace by demanding as much as 30m for the defender this summer.

    The French international has been in impressive form since moving to the Eagles on loan in January, helping spark a significant upturn in form for Sam Allardyce’s side.

    Sakho starred as Palace won at leaders Chelsea on Saturday, and Liverpool plan to cash in on the 27-year-old’s form by offloading him at a profit at the end of the campaign.

    The Reds are already aware of interest from both Napoli and Southampton, both of whom are expected to lose first-choice centre backs – Kalidou Koulibaly and Virgil Van Dijk – in the summer.

    A number of other Premier League clubs, as well as some in La Liga and Serie A, are monitoring Sakho’s situation too, and Liverpool are hopeful they will be able to demand even more than the 20m they asked for in January. Palace did not agree a right-to-buy clause when securing Sakho’s loan deal earlier in the year.

    Sakho, despite his successful return to competitive action, has no future at Anfield and will be allowed to leave once the right offer comes in.

    The former Paris Saint-Germain star fell out with manager Jurgen Klopp last summer, and has not featured for the Reds since April 2016.

    Liverpool believe they showed last summer that they are able to command high fees for players who are surplus to requirements.


    Christian Benteke joined Palace for an initial 27m, while the likes of Joe Allen and Jordon Ibe were also sold for good money given their status as squad players at best.

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport...sakho-12834436


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    Sakho is not coming back but I am very happy that he is doing well at Palace. The better he does the more we can ask for him. I can see Palace trying like hell to keep him, and paying more than we did for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnamiri View Post
    Sakho is not coming back but I am very happy that he is doing well at Palace. The better he does the more we can ask for him. I can see Palace trying like hell to keep him, and paying more than we did for him
    We paid PSG in the region of 17-18 million if i remember correctly.. add 10 million more and palace can have him nicely gift wrapped.
    They were silly not to agree a "right-to-buy clause" when loaning him from us.. 4 MOMs later, price has now gone up by 10 million!
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnamiri View Post
    Sakho is not coming back but I am very happy that he is doing well at Palace. The better he does the more we can ask for him. I can see Palace trying like hell to keep him, and paying more than we did for him
    Absolutely agree .. keep it up, Sakho, no brainfarts between now and the end of the season please. Would love to see a nice bidding war erupt for him in the summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grenny158 View Post
    Absolutely agree .. keep it up, Sakho, no brainfarts between now and the end of the season please. Would love to see a nice bidding war erupt for him in the summer.
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    Sakho isn't coming back (unfortunately) so all we can do is get as much as we can for him and but the best finished article defender we can lay our hands on. Will be interesting to see if any of the top six come in for him because I think Sakho improves every defense with the exception of Chelsea and Spurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider-neil View Post
    Sakho isn't coming back (unfortunately) so all we can do is get as much as we can for him and but the best finished article defender we can lay our hands on. Will be interesting to see if any of the top six come in for him because I think Sakho improves every defense with the exception of Chelsea and Spurs.
    Lovren was brilliant on Saturday
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider-neil View Post
    Sakho isn't coming back (unfortunately) so all we can do is get as much as we can for him and but the best finished article defender we can lay our hands on. Will be interesting to see if any of the top six come in for him because I think Sakho improves every defense with the exception of Chelsea and Spurs.
    Top 6 teams would be a stretch. Could see a west ham (if they stay up), newcastle (if they get promoted) & southampton (we should do a swap + cash for VVD) splash the cash for mama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylesbyred View Post
    Lovren was brilliant on Saturday
    I honestly couldn't care less about 1 game. The defense is, or should be, all about consistency. Game in, game out, all season. And judged on those terms Lovren just isn't good enough and he never was. A Southampton he had two out and out holding midfielders protecting him, something he hasn't nor will he ever receive here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlusSixFiveRed View Post
    Top 6 teams would be a stretch. Could see a west ham (if they stay up), newcastle (if they get promoted) & southampton (we should do a swap + cash for VVD) splash the cash for mama.
    When fit and in form he improves;
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider-neil View Post
    Sakho isn't coming back (unfortunately) so all we can do is get as much as we can for him and but the best finished article defender we can lay our hands on. Will be interesting to see if any of the top six come in for him because I think Sakho improves every defense with the exception of Chelsea and Spurs.
    Sakho's performances have been over hyped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider-neil View Post
    I honestly couldn't care less about 1 game. The defense is, or should be, all about consistency. Game in, game out, all season. And judged on those terms Lovren just isn't good enough and he never was. A Southampton he had two out and out holding midfielders protecting him, something he hasn't nor will he ever receive here.
    Here's where your thinking falls to the ground. Yes, the defence should be about consistency, and yet you somehow think Sakho would play a role in that, as though he was consistently good for us. Really? Sakho, like Lovren, is not consistent enough. End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grenny158 View Post
    Here's where your thinking falls to the ground. Yes, the defence should be about consistency, and yet you somehow think Sakho would play a role in that, as though he was consistently good for us. Really? Sakho, like Lovren, is not consistent enough. End of story.
    Sakho hasn't achieved consistency because he hasn't stayed fit enough. Sakho falls short because of injuries Lovren falls short because he is ****.
    You can work on fitness and injuries in the gym, you can't give a defender a brain.
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