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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukadamainman View Post
    Not having that atall mate watch the game again, Firmino's the best player in our squad imo, most complete player. Origi's not fit to lace his boots yet, defensive work aswell he gives us, game saving headed clearances, non stop pressing too. Layed the game on a plate for Lallana. You haven't got a clue mate.
    That is your opinion, and it doesn't could for much.

    I'd sell Firmino in a flash to bring in someone that can finish on goal and not waste vital chances.

    Origi is young and has a lot to offer at LFC. He just needs someone to work with.

    Bottom line is that Firmino is not a striker and we are finished if Klopp sees him as one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midiman_user View Post
    That is your opinion, and it doesn't could for much.

    I'd sell Firmino in a flash to bring in someone that can finish on goal and not waste vital chances.

    Origi is young and has a lot to offer at LFC. He just needs someone to work with.


    Bottom line is that Firmino is not a striker and we are finished if Klopp sees him as one.
    We really aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midiman_user View Post
    That is your opinion, and it doesn't could for much.

    I'd sell Firmino in a flash to bring in someone that can finish on goal and not waste vital chances.

    Origi is young and has a lot to offer at LFC. He just needs someone to work with.

    Bottom line is that Firmino is not a striker and we are finished if Klopp sees him as one.
    Hahaha what on earth?! Sell Firmino? There's only one reason why Firmino is acting as our striker and that's because we currently have no better options!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8FLASH8 View Post
    Hahaha what on earth?! Sell Firmino? There's only one reason why Firmino is acting as our striker and that's because we currently have no better options!
    It's actually hilarious.

    Like fair enough if you think we can improve on him and get in someone better, great. But why would you then sell Firmino? Lets improve on Coutinho and sell him too.
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    Origi dosent suit our system, Next season he will be dropped below Danny Ings. If Origi had pace then he would be good but seeing him unable to out run the tired City defenders is worrying.
    Think he will and should be sold but wont be against a Loan to a PL side.

    With a new first team striker coming in, It will be New CF > Firmino > Ings. So Origi will struggle here.
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    I wouldn't sell or loan out Origi, but he's in a difficult position. At the moment, Firmino is ahead of him, and he could be third choice if we bring in a new striker in the summer (which we should).
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    I think given Origi's workrate, strength and pace I think he could be trained to play in other attacking positions and I think in the end it is the only way he would make it here-

    I like the lad a lot and I thik he is a good footballer but he is not good enough to be a specialist striker at the club or at least he wont be given the game time here to develop into that.

    As a utility attacker who can play anywhere in the front 4 I think he could get a lot more chances and grow as a player. I always wonder why he wasn't given a chance in Mane's position when he went, moving Lallana in that position wasn't beneficial at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinghIsLFC View Post
    Origi dosent suit our system, Next season he will be dropped below Danny Ings. If Origi had pace then he would be good but seeing him unable to out run the tired City defenders is worrying.
    Think he will and should be sold but wont be against a Loan to a PL side.

    With a new first team striker coming in, It will be New CF > Firmino > Ings. So Origi will struggle here.
    I don't think Ings has a future here.
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    A loan would mean that Origi has no future at the club for me.
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    For me, if he isn't scoring he doesn't offer very much.

    I do think that him playing on the wing yesterday was silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grenny158 View Post
    I think Klopp will redesign our attack in the summer (strikers, not AM's) and that both Origi and Sturridge will be sold. Origi has shown some potential in his time with us, but not enough to be considered of the quality we need.
    It'll be criminal if we sold both of those players due to our lack of depth.
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    he is finished at this club. he adds absoloutley no urgency when he comes on, has no distinct quality besides pace but these days just seems too lazy to move.

    danny ings can take his place next yr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie_Pat View Post
    he is finished at this club. he adds absoloutley no urgency when he comes on, has no distinct quality besides pace but these days just seems too lazy to move.

    danny ings can take his place next yr
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    Still trying to figure out if what we saw in the 2nd half of last season a player riding the wave of a new manager?Coz so far he looks like the player who was voted in the worst team in ligue 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by spider-neil View Post
    Because he doesn't press as well as Firmino and doesn't hold up the ball as well as Firmino and doesn't make as many good decisions as Firmino.
    And yet had he started the game yesterday and gotten some of the chances Firmino got, I would have backed him to score some of those a lot more confidently than when I see Firmino sent through on goal. For example, when Coutinho played that brilliant through ball to Firmino in the second half, there was no part of me anticipating that a goal was coming out of it. And there were other passes played through that a bigger, faster Origi gets on the end of that Firmino has no chance because he just isn't fast enough.

    Bobby is a brilliantly intelligent forward....I said yesterday there aren't many at his brainwave level. But his final execution at the moment needs a lot of work.

    This time 12 months ago, we were all raving about this kid's potential. He's had a bit of a sophomore season syndrome which happens a lot, and just hasn't been prioritized by Klopp. We are going to need players this next season especially if we are in Europe. I don't understand why anyone would want to loan out Divock at this point of his career - can't think of anything that would be more pointless in helping him develop as a Klopp system striker especially given no one else plays that press game you need to develop that one area people think he lacks in. Let the guy have another summer, and have another go at it next season especially with the increased number of games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midiman_user View Post
    Yeah like his shot yesterday when he could have easily passed to AL.
    Or all the shots that his missed that your average striker could have put away.
    He has no end result and it's starting to become painful.
    We would have put that game to rest if we had a clinical striker in the team.

    Origi has only been used a bit part player, but he still managed to get 5 goals in 6 games when he was played.

    Klopp needs to give Origi some games and bring on our headless chicken when needed.
    You mean 30 seconds after he passed it to Lallana and watched him miss an open goal from 5 yards out? And you're seriously surprised he took the shot on this time?

    The Firmino scapegoating is pathetic. Firmino is the REASON we scored, he won the penalty. You have no idea if Origi or a "clinical striker" would have made that off the ball run.

    Firmino would have assisted the match winner if Lallana didn't miss an open net. He wasn't the problem yesterday, he was the reason we actually scored.

    Also Firmino's one-on-one is being talked about as the easiest chance in the world for some reason. It was at an angle, the keeper came out quickly and Man City defenders were already rushing back towards the goal line. I can give you many examples of "clinical strikers" missing even easier one-on-ones than the one he missed yesterday.
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    I was full of hope when he arrived, hungry and wanting to make a point but for whatever reason that hope has disappeared. Origi reminds me more and more of David N'Gog every time I see him, looks great, athletic and skillful but then just doesn't reach the level you expected. I wouldn't give up on him though, he's done ok considering the amount of time he's actually played but he's definitely losing the edge a bit. He's got what it takes, it just needs tuning.
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    I really like divock but something is telling me he's not going to make it:-

    A) At Lille or wherever he was he was voted worst player in France. We all thought nah he wants to come here so isn't puttying effort in that's why. Maybe there was more to it than that
    B) Rashford equally limited minutes seems to be able to turn it on like a tap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midiman_user View Post
    Have to strongly disagree there.

    Firmino is weak, he can't hold up the ball, and makes poor decisions on goal.

    Origi, is strong, can hold up the ball, and can finish.

    Firmino needs to be dropped.
    Utter nonsense as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midiman_user View Post
    That is your opinion, and it doesn't could for much.

    I'd sell Firmino in a flash to bring in someone that can finish on goal and not waste vital chances.

    Origi is young and has a lot to offer at LFC. He just needs someone to work with.

    Bottom line is that Firmino is not a striker and we are finished if Klopp sees him as one.
    Let's have a realistic name then who should replace him? You want Mane out too? He misses his fair share. What we may gain in bringing a poacher in we will lose out on Robbies creativity, work ethic and genuine quality. Of course it's a game of opinions but there's a reason why Klopp plays the man religiously..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie_Pat View Post
    he is finished at this club. he adds absoloutley no urgency when he comes on, has no distinct quality besides pace but these days just seems too lazy to move.

    danny ings can take his place next yr
    he's got a helicopter aswell i bet....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHIL. View Post
    Utter nonsense as usual.
    And you though Karius was the dogs balls too
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    Quote Originally Posted by midiman_user View Post
    And you though Karius was the dogs balls too
    Nope. Just a promising keeper, which he is.

    Imagine thinking Firmino isn't one of our best players. I mean, you'd have to be blind. Never seen someone talk as much crap on here as you. Awful, awful footballing opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midiman_user View Post
    That is your opinion, and it doesn't could for much.

    I'd sell Firmino in a flash to bring in someone that can finish on goal and not waste vital chances.

    Origi is young and has a lot to offer at LFC. He just needs someone to work with.

    Bottom line is that Firmino is not a striker and we are finished if Klopp sees him as one.
    You're saying his opinion doesn't count for much and then spouting nonsense like that?

    "Bottom line is that Firmino is not a striker and we are finished if Klopp sees him as one." That perfectly explains why we're the top scoring team in the Premier League ever since Klopp took over the team and put Firmino up front.

    Astonishing. Firmino is the reason we scored yesterday.
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    I'm a big fan of Origi, suggesting a loan as I don't want him not to develop or be sold by us, I think it could be beneficial for everyone.
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    He should be sold another player in our squad not good enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top klopp View Post
    He should be sold another player in our squad not good enough
    Wish we could sell you
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHIL. View Post
    Nope. Just a promising keeper, which he is.

    Imagine thinking Firmino isn't one of our best players. I mean, you'd have to be blind. Never seen someone talk as much crap on here as you. Awful, awful footballing opinions.
    Again in your deluded opinion.

    But you were put to rights on that one.

    Origi needs to start.
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    I don't think a loan will help him or us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHIL. View Post
    Nope. Just a promising keeper, which he is.

    Imagine thinking Firmino isn't one of our best players. I mean, you'd have to be blind. Never seen someone talk as much crap on here as you. Awful, awful footballing opinions.
    Yeah.

    Sure, Bobby missed a very good chance yesterday, but considering that he hadn't taken part in team training up until the day before the game, he put in a big performance.

    Neville picked up on the amount of work he gets through on commentary, not just in the final third too. He was defending brilliantly from City set pieces, and made some great clearances with his head (3) in total.

    Obviously we'd like him to be more clinical, but he is a key part of our side. Klopp has stressed Firmino's importance to our side countless times, and clearly values his all round contribution.
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