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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Why not?
    They do not control what goes on in games. If a player slips and makes a mistake that leads to a goal, how can that be the owners fault, explain !
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    Quote Originally Posted by agb1037 View Post
    They do not control what goes on in games. If a player slips and makes a mistake that leads to a goal, how can that be the owners fault, explain !
    Who's fault is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    I think he meant their own personal money not the money the club has generated.

    And I accept, as owners, they have the prerogative to spend the money generated by the club as they wish.
    As Klopp and his team wishes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    Read the fine print on the ticket stubs.

    It's there, black and white, clear as crystal.

    'By purchasing this ticket you accept that The Owners shall not be held responsible for slip ups, poor performances, goalkeeping errors, slipshod defending and injuries etc etc etc'
    I never take my glasses, I'll be sure to from now on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Who's fault is it?
    The player obviously. Christ !
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    Quote Originally Posted by agb1037 View Post
    As Klopp and his team wishes.
    No, as they wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agb1037 View Post
    Like Mane.
    Was Mane a gift from Tom Werner's personal fortune? Wow. Thanks Tom!
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    Quote Originally Posted by agb1037 View Post
    The player obviously. Christ !
    Where did the player come from and no need for the blasphemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    I never take my glasses, I'll be sure to from now on.
    Might need a magnifying glass. Or some sort of electron microscope. It's VERY fine print.
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    One poster banned...and more will follow if the constant personal sniping continues.

    This thread is to discuss FSG...not an excuse to have a pop at perceived groups of supporters or any supporter for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    they can control the quality of the players on the pitch which leads to slips bad goalkeeping and bad defending
    So Gerard wasn't quality then
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    Might need a magnifying glass. Or some sort of electron microscope. It's VERY fine print.
    Invisible ink?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    they can control the quality of the players on the pitch which leads to slips bad goalkeeping and bad defending
    So you're saying Stevie G wasn't a quality player then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Invisible ink?
    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...fab2a8932d.jpg
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    I ask this in every FSG thread, apart from the benevolent billionaires, which three PL owners would you prefer to have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri_Bates View Post
    So you're saying Stevie G wasn't a quality player then?
    Where did he say that, I can't see it?

    Was it fine print like on the back of the tickets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Where did he say that, I can't see it?

    Was it fine print like on the back of the tickets?
    A leap that Neil Armstrong would be proud of.
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    Haha, brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    A leap that Neil Armstrong would be proud of.
    One small slip for mankind...
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    Can we get this back on topic now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    they can control the quality of the players on the pitch which leads to slips bad goalkeeping and bad defending
    Quote Originally Posted by MrDilkington View Post
    Agreed, to a certain extent.

    if they were to sign up Barry fry as manager and accompany him with load of teenage backroom staff, would you not deem them responsible for failures on the pitch ?
    Both true to an extent, but if the manager chose the players he's sending out there and refused to bring in others when given the chance, as we've seen this January with Klopp, how is that the owners fault?

    Could the club have spent more on players? Sure. I've been guilty of saying that about them too in the past. But I can also totally understand that if I were the owner, I would be a little hesitant to sanction more big spending after some of the big-money flops that we've brought in since arriving. We all know the names & the price tags.

    I won't give the owners full credit for everything good around the club, but I certainly won't blame them for all the wrongs either. It's not fair to dismiss all of the positive things they've done because I may be unhappy about one thing or another. I just feel that we're in better hands than we've been in, in quite a long time and things are certainly looking up for the entire club and the supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Where did he say that, I can't see it?

    Was it fine print like on the back of the tickets?
    they can control the quality of the players on the pitch which leads to slips bad goalkeeping and bad defending
    His statement: The quality of the player leads to slips, bad goalkeeping, and bad defending. Obvious corollary: Stevie slipped because he wasn't up to the quality required to not slip therefor not a quality player. Elementary level logic interpretation of his statement...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    they can control the quality of the players on the pitch which leads to slips bad goalkeeping and bad defending
    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    Read the fine print on the ticket stubs.

    It's there, black and white, clear as crystal.

    'By purchasing this ticket you accept that The Owners shall not be held responsible for slip ups, poor performances, goalkeeping errors, slipshod defending and injuries etc etc etc'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri_Bates View Post
    His statement: The quality of the player leads to slips, bad goalkeeping, and bad defending. Obvious corollary: Stevie slipped because he wasn't up to the quality required to not slip therefor not a quality player. Elementary level logic interpretation of his statement...
    ... or jumping to your own conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri_Bates View Post
    So you're saying Stevie G wasn't a quality player then?
    i m saying he was fatigued
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsman10 View Post
    Both true to an extent, but if the manager chose the players he's sending out there and refused to bring in others when given the chance, as we've seen this January with Klopp, how is that the owners fault?

    Could the club have spent more on players? Sure. I've been guilty of saying that about them too in the past. But I can also totally understand that if I were the owner, I would be a little hesitant to sanction more big spending after some of the big-money flops that we've brought in since arriving. We all know the names & the price tags.

    I won't give the owners full credit for everything good around the club, but I certainly won't blame them for all the wrongs either. It's not fair to dismiss all of the positive things they've done because I may be unhappy about one thing or another. I just feel that we're in better hands than we've been in, in quite a long time and things are certainly looking up for the entire club and the supporters.
    how do we know there was money available in january... just because tom werner said so doesnt make it true
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    how do we know there was money available in january... just because tom werner said so doesnt make it true
    Klopp said so himself in one of his press conferences, but the clubs wouldn't sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    they can control the quality of the players on the pitch which leads to slips bad goalkeeping and bad defending
    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    how do we know there was money available in january... just because tom werner said so doesnt make it true
    It doesn't make it a lie either. But I do recall Klopp talking about it during some of his pressers. Even after losing out on Draxler, he mentioned during one of them of his dislike for players asking for what he felt was ridiculous wages and that clubs shouldn't overpay for players. He also didn't want to bring in just anyone if he didn't think they were a 'perfect fit'.

    Perfect fit or not, we needed more depth at the start of the season and in January when we had injuries and Mane leaving for CAF. I'm not an apologist for the owners and I love Klopp, but I think he can be stubborn at times and refused to spend money 'unnecessarily' which he had available during both windows this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredthecamel View Post
    how do we know there was money available in january... just because tom werner said so doesnt make it true
    Of course there was, we made a profit in the summer so there was surely plenty available. Klopp just chose to keep his powder dry, rightly or wrongly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PejiVanbasten View Post
    They are digging deep. Deep in to the clubs resources that we do not make a profit. Thats how we are run and i am happy with that. What we put in we get out.
    That's like playing a game not to lose.
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