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    shody1976 is online now First team regular
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    Thought it might be an idea dedicated to the upcoming election.

    Smart move by Theresa May and its very difficult to see anything other than a Tory. I don't think Labour will be wiped out at the polls, but I do think that the Tories will see a significantly increased majority.
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    Thank God I'm Irish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweepie View Post
    Thank God I'm Irish.

    ******* wish I were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    ******* wish I were.
    By 2019, my passport will be a very coveted item.

    I'm predicting a lot of Irish grandparents will be discovered. It'll be worse than a Jack Charlton football team!!!

    In all seriousness... A very very calculated move by May and her advisors. I just hope it doesn't make the situation in the North of Ireland even more unstable!

    Edit: oh and believe me, the shower in charge of our government are a bigger shambles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweepie View Post
    By 2019, my passport will be a very coveted item.

    I'm predicting a lot of Irish grandparents will be discovered. It'll be worse than a Jack Charlton football team!!!

    In all seriousness... A very very calculated move by May and her advisors. I just hope it doesn't make the situation in the North of Ireland even more unstable!

    Edit: oh and believe me, the shower in charge of our government are a bigger shambles!
    I have the advantage of a languages degree so hopefully one of the two countries whose languages I speak will take me in. No joke.

    I don't like May but she was within her rights to call an election and no one can complain about the timing. The best I can say is that it'll at least get rid of Corbyn by June.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    I have the advantage of a languages degree so hopefully one of the two countries whose languages I speak will take me in. No joke.

    I don't like May but she was within her rights to call an election and no one can complain about the timing. The best I can say is that it'll at least get rid of Corbyn by June.
    Great I can only speak English and rubbish where in the world can I go

    (Although I did have what I describe as survival Spanish - can make myself understood but can't hold a conversation.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    I have the advantage of a languages degree so hopefully one of the two countries whose languages I speak will take me in. No joke.

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    No chance. You won't hold an EU passport.

    In all seriousness you'll be grand.

    I'm not going to discuss my personal political opinions on here. However, I shall be an interested spectator. I think the UK are in for a very turbulent few years. This won't be the last general election in the next 5 years.
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    This announced election is a manufactured conceit.

    It is a distraction.

    Since the Tories have been in power, 22 Billion pounds (22,000,000,000) have been cut by the Tories on an agenda in dismantling the NHS.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...tions-18042017

    I have no favour or disfavour in regard to the Green party, though I am disappointed that the opposition party is .....





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    I do like watching your election results though!
    The way counting starts as soon as the polling closes and the results are declared through the night.

    Here in Ireland we have to wait until the next day before counting begins, it goes on all day. (Then everyone heads to the pub.) It continues the next day, and then the day after that!
    I think last year it was 6 days before the final seat was declared, and we only have 158 of them!
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    Corbyn apparently looks "weak". Right, vote for a Government which is already squeezing the life out of normal people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    I have the advantage of a languages degree so hopefully one of the two countries whose languages I speak will take me in. No joke.

    I don't like May but she was within her rights to call an election and no one can complain about the timing. The best I can say is that it'll at least get rid of Corbyn by June.
    I think you are right on this, she may be doing a favour to Labour in the long run. It looks to me that this election is more about his own party than the opposition anyway.
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    What would be people's reaction be to a shock Corbyn victory? Do we think he's the man to lead us through these turbulent times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by S_7 View Post
    What would be people's reaction be to a shock Corbyn victory? Do we think he's the man to lead us through these turbulent times?
    Corbyn would be a complete disaster as PM. But barring a complete meltdown by the Tories, they will win with a substantial majority. I do have my doubts as to whether Corbyn will step down though, if he were to lose the election.
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    Its clearly May's grab for absolute power and I can only hope she fails and like her predecessor is stung for calling such an election, alla Cameron and the hideous Brexit mess.

    I hope she crashes and burns, I hope enough people have sense to see that handing absolute power to the Tories led by that cold calculating session musician of a minister type witch **** would be a disaster. Them having freedom to negotiate Brexit on their terms alone would be horrendous just as they'll have absolute power to bring in hard line policies here in the UK unchallenged....along with finally of course killing off the NHS.

    I'll be voting Labour as the only real alternative but realistically its more than likely that clown like make up wearing corpse, along with her dusty cronies, will take total power......though one never quite knows in politics.

    Lets hope Corbyn gets the big things right to win in modern politics, he needs to make sure he eats his bacon sandwich properly if being filmed, trash talks experts, demonises knowledge or informed opinions etc.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    I have the advantage of a languages degree so hopefully one of the two countries whose languages I speak will take me in. No joke.

    I don't like May but she was within her rights to call an election and no one can complain about the timing. The best I can say is that it'll at least get rid of Corbyn by June.



    yes this is THE only advantage of this early poll. But I rather suspect he's a stubborn b**** and will hang on claiming the Lab membership is what matters not the voters of Britain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shody1976 View Post
    Corbyn would be a complete disaster as PM. But barring a complete meltdown by the Tories, they will win with a substantial majority. I do have my doubts as to whether Corbyn will step down though, if he were to lose the election.



    Absolutely Shody. Agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shody1976 View Post
    Corbyn would be a complete disaster as PM. But barring a complete meltdown by the Tories, they will win with a substantial majority. I do have my doubts as to whether Corbyn will step down though, if he were to lose the election.
    If they lose and Corbyn doesn't step down, Labour will be finished for years and years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S_7 View Post
    What would be people's reaction be to a shock Corbyn victory? Do we think he's the man to lead us through these turbulent times?
    I accept yr right to this question but really....it just aint gonna happen. The barons of the press will not allow it. They will initially (a week or two but no more) give him a good press i think, therefore encouraging Lab voters but then stick the knife in big time. Every anti-Lab/Corbyn story will get full throttle in the Tory loving press. As for Ukip i think they'll be stuffed. Why vote for them when you can vote for the real thing? Erdogan, sorry May will win with at least 100 seat maj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreams-come-true View Post
    Corbyn apparently looks "weak". Right, vote for a Government which is already squeezing the life out of normal people.
    British people do have a strange need to be nannied by a tough, preferably female led rw govt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghyllred View Post
    I accept yr right to this question but really....it just aint gonna happen. The barons of the press will not allow it. They will initially (a week or two but no more) give him a good press i think, therefore encouraging Lab voters but then stick the knife in big time. Every anti-Lab/Corbyn story will get full throttle in the Tory loving press. As for Ukip i think they'll be stuffed. Why vote for them when you can vote for the real thing? Erdogan, sorry May will win with at least 100 seat maj.
    Stranger things have happened! But yeah realistically it's hard to look past the Tories, it's mad to think there are people that are really happy with this government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghyllred View Post
    I accept yr right to this question but really....it just aint gonna happen. The barons of the press will not allow it. They will initially (a week or two but no more) give him a good press i think, therefore encouraging Lab voters but then stick the knife in big time. Every anti-Lab/Corbyn story will get full throttle in the Tory loving press. As for Ukip i think they'll be stuffed. Why vote for them when you can vote for the real thing? Erdogan, sorry May will win with at least 100 seat maj.
    No the press have started already. Heart radio interviewing a lifelong labour voter in Chester who wont vote for Corbyn (I didn't realise Corbyn was standing in Chester). So the narrative is will Labour lose Chester...erm Chester the county town of Cheshire that well known socialist stronghold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhoscoch View Post
    No the press have started already. Heart radio interviewing a lifelong labour voter in Chester who wont vote for Corbyn (I didn't realise Corbyn was standing in Chester). So the narrative is will Labour lose Chester...erm Chester the county town of Cheshire that well known socialist stronghold.
    No surprise there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhoscoch View Post
    No the press have started already. Heart radio interviewing a lifelong labour voter in Chester who wont vote for Corbyn (I didn't realise Corbyn was standing in Chester). So the narrative is will Labour lose Chester...erm Chester the county town of Cheshire that well known socialist stronghold.
    The vast majority of media is Conservative. They will say a Conservative win inevitable. It works if people listen and use media to form opinion. I have found personally I have become significantly more knowledgeable by simply avoiding newspapers, media, TV and doing my own research as and when needed.

    It's a simple choice between following and walking your own path.
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    Corbyn will be too arrogant to resign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S_7 View Post
    What would be people's reaction be to a shock Corbyn victory? Do we think he's the man to lead us through these turbulent times?
    No chance, he lacks personality and can't even unite his own party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Star Line View Post
    Corbyn will be too arrogant to resign.
    Agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldiogs View Post
    No chance, he lacks personality and can't even unite his own party.
    You think personality is what a public servant needs? The reason he cannot unite his own party is because corporate servants have joined the Labour party and work on behalf of the Conservatives.

    Unless Labour turn into the New Conservatives you cannot unite that party. Corbyn won twice with landslides for leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Star Line View Post
    Corbyn will be too arrogant to resign.
    The only reason you could possibly think Corbyn is arrogant is from what you have seen through the media filters. You don't know Corbyn never met him and you perhaps should ask yourself if you can trust media image? maybe it's been shaped for a reason?
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    The opposition need a coalition, only way, has been that way for some time, but a real coalition where values/principles align in more than just a power grab way as per Tories/Dems coalition.

    Sad thing is this is already turning into a rather superficial perception Corbyn bashing exercise quickly, 'not fit to lead' etc whereas as May and her party's ultimate power play to go unchallenged in what it wants to do going forward, is being viewed as some sort of positive by comparison and she somehow is fit to lead the country (despite in the last year contradicting herself horribly on major massive issues for the UK, this election call included).

    I'd rather Corbyn, a brick with lipstick, some jelly, an ice cube, 'Ants in my eyes Johnson', anything but May is preferable and any of them fitter to run this country than May and this all out unchecked drive for power they'll have going forward
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Star Line View Post
    Corbyn will be too arrogant to resign.
    I'm not sure he decides. His cohort will convince him to stay
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