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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    I do recall seeing quite a few merchant bankers in the crowd now you come to mention it.
    I think every club has them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri_Bates View Post
    You're assuming Klopp's goal/expectation for the season was title contention to the end. I don't for a single moment believe that is the case. This year was about getting back into European competition to set things up for a summer buying push to the top the next few seasons. If it truly was about winning the league this season there'd have been some buying in January even with the inflated mid-season price tags. He's building a club for years at the top not going for win it now at all costs...
    I don't believe that title contention was what Klopp had in mind going into the season. Our current position is down to how well the squad has come together and how well they've performed - exceeding Klopp and everyone else's expectations.

    But we can agree that most supporters (and pundits) felt that not adding a true LB and another proven striker was leaving us a bit short in certain areas going into the season. We knew that a couple of key injuries could derail the entire season and we could end up finishing where we did last year. plus losing Mane to CAF was no surprise and Klopp should have prepared for it by having someone lined up as soon as the January window opened. He should take a little criticism for that, however.

    My point about title contention is that, seeing how well we playing leading into December and knowing what our schedule was at the end of the season, a few key quality additions in the summer & January may have spared us the poor run of results in December/January/February when we dropped silly points against the likes of West Ham, Sunderland, Swansea, Hull, and even United and Leicester, and it would have set us up nicely for this 'winnable' stretch of matches to finish out the year. It would have allowed for more rotation and rest, cover for injuries, and depth to bring a quality player or two off the bench & change matches in our favor. I feel that we could have very easily have been up there with Chelsea right now. However, I'll still take a top four finish right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    I think every club has them.
    You're probably right though. Utd do seem to have more than their fair share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    You're probably right though. Utd do seem to have more than their fair share.
    I know, every match going fan knows this, I'm 60 next year I've seen it all.Liverpool fans are just as bad, I remember the 70s violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ***Stuzzza*** View Post
    I'm a fan, and think he's doing a decent job, but I don't agree with the apparently common perception that he's making a silk purse out of a sows ear - I think we have a decent group of players that should be competing at the upper end of the table. I'm not at all surprised that we are where we are.
    I don't think I totally agree there are a few players who weren't performing (to a required standard) under the previous manager. though I do think we have a fair lot of players who can when at their absolute best compete with the top clubs at present
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiddellGreates View Post
    I don't think I totally agree there are a few players who weren't performing (to a required standard) under the previous manager. though I do think we have a fair lot of players who can when at their absolute best compete with the top clubs at present
    Which is why the previous manager is no longer here. He had a squad that should have been competing at the top end of the table* but wasn't. This manager has them playing at a more appropriate level.

    He's doing well, and particularly against the other top teams, but not out of this world by any stretch. I believe this team should be looking at 70 points plus - and that's where we are.

    *Not necessarily top spot, but certainly competing for a CL spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    I do recall seeing quite a few merchant bankers in the crowd now you come to mention it.
    Is merchant bankers the latest trend in tourists with selfie sticks
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    I know, every match going fan knows this, I'm 60 next year I've seen it all.Liverpool fans are just as bad, I remember the 70s violence.
    Football was tribal - competition brings out the competitor in people - violence is tribal
    60's to 80's Britain had been backed into a corner, violence was all that was left
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    Quote Originally Posted by agb1037 View Post
    A lot of people having a dig at FSG unfairly, but seem to praise the oppositions hierarchy. Just making a point. They have done well I agree.
    A rather pointless point. But anyhoo....

    Great people = great results. Just hire great people in the right positions and anything is achievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteron View Post
    Football was tribal - competition brings out the competitor in people - violence is tribal
    60's to 80's Britain had been backed into a corner, violence was all that was left
    It didn't happen at rugby or cricket games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    It didn't happen at rugby or cricket games.
    Didn't want to ruin their quiffs or spill the pintys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    It didn't happen at rugby or cricket games.
    Tricky to have a punch up without dropping the Pimms
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    Tricky to have a punch up without dropping the Pimms
    It was a choice between pintys or pimms for my post.

    Ah, stereotypes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    It didn't happen at rugby or cricket games.
    They are not tribal - hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteron View Post
    They are not tribal - hahaha
    Say that to st Helens and Wigan widnes Leeds salford Warrington the list go's on, plus the only two teams to play at Old Trafford in white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    Say that to st Helens and Wigan widnes Leeds salford Warrington the list go's on, plus the only two teams to play at Old Trafford in white.
    It's a real shame when people have to resort to violence. The rivalry is great, the hatred and violence isn't.

    Banter without the brutality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    It's a real shame when people have to resort to violence. The rivalry is great, the hatred and violence isn't.

    Banter without the brutality.
    Yeah would be fun, Monty python style banter, who could embarrass the other fans the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    It didn't happen at rugby or cricket games.
    There is still an undercurrent of violence in football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    Tricky to have a punch up without dropping the Pimms
    Never been to a 20 20 game, I'm lucky it's fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    Say that to st Helens and Wigan widnes Leeds salford Warrington the list go's on, plus the only two teams to play at Old Trafford in white.
    League has real passion.

    Union leaves me cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    Say that to st Helens and Wigan widnes Leeds salford Warrington the list go's on, plus the only two teams to play at Old Trafford in white.
    There are always exceptions to the rule - rugby and cricket did not have the the media exposure of football - didn't have the link to music that football had....
    Football was an easy target for the forces of chaos, mods, rockers, skinheads, hells angels - the links in culture, music and football were greater than rugby or cricket....
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    Come on two teams to play at old Trafford in white?��
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    League has real passion.

    Union leaves me cold.
    Union is the toffs game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteron View Post
    There are always exceptions to the rule - rugby and cricket did not have the the media exposure of football - didn't have the link to music that football had....
    Football was an easy target for the forces of chaos, mods, rockers, skinheads, hells angels - the links in culture, music and football were greater than rugby or cricket....
    Fair play about cricket, but not about rugby, but to be fair cricket has done wonders for hot summers nights with 20 20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -hoot View Post
    Come on two teams to play at old Trafford in white?��
    Easy Lambert & Butler Floodlit Competition was played there; in the semi-finals, Nottinghamshire defeated Derbyshire and Lancashire beat Yorkshire,
    there's 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by agb1037 View Post
    Union is the toffs game.
    It's the better one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    It's the better one.
    Is it ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    Is it ****.
    Egg chasing for the thinking man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertretford View Post
    Egg chasing for the thinking man.
    Lot of thought in those scrums.

    Heeeeeeeeaaaaaaaavvvvvvveeeeee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Topper- View Post
    Lot of thought in those scrums.

    Heeeeeeeeaaaaaaaavvvvvvveeeeee!
    Better than just handing the ball over to the opposition when you've run out of ideas after 6 go's.
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