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    Quote Originally Posted by theamerican00 View Post
    Its not Messi, its Mbappe.
    We haven't made a bid for him according to ESPN. Even so that fact that we are discussing this kind of figure means, I think, that we won't be going after the Oxade Chamberlain type of player either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post
    No, im' saying Mbappe costs that much.
    Its the same price as pogba last year for an 18 year old.
    Its more then higuain, its more then oscar, its even more then suarez for an 18 year old
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Its the same price as pogba last year for an 18 year old.
    Its more then higuain, its more then oscar, its even more then suarez for an 18 year old
    What does his age have to do with anything?

    If your only argument to not buy this player is that he's young, then it's a pretty **** argument.

    If it's inexperience, you could make a case, but based on market value and the clear potential of this kid and the value he represents to his current club, his price is £75M.
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    We should probably try to find the 'next' Mbappe, then. You know, before he costs the equivalent of a space station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post
    What does his age have to do with anything?

    If your only argument to not buy this player is that he's young, then it's a pretty **** argument.

    If it's inexperience, you could make a case, but based on market value and the clear potential of this kid and the value he represents to his current club, his price is £75M.
    Its not only experience, its about development.
    And there is no market value. The value is set by what the potential buying club wants to pay.
    Pogba is a good example of player maybe worth half of what was paid for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    For that money you could buy a full grown player. Not a talent.
    For that money you could buy three talentet brazilians who are all a future fat ronaldos
    Signing players with good potential to be fat? Interesting point of view. I think we should go for players who are fat already though. A team of fat Ronaldos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LChristina View Post
    We should probably try to find the 'next' Mbappe, then. You know, before he costs the equivalent of a space station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Its not only experience, its about development.
    And there is no market value. The value is set by what the potential buying club wants to pay.
    Pogba is a good example of player maybe worth half of what was paid for him.
    That is literally market value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theamerican00 View Post
    Signing players with good potential to be fat? Interesting point of view. I think we should go for players who are fat already though. A team of fat Ronaldos.
    Even as fat, ronaldo was still a beast
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    Quote Originally Posted by agb1037 View Post
    We haven't made a bid for him according to ESPN. Even so that fact that we are discussing this kind of figure means, I think, that we won't be going after the Oxade Chamberlain type of player either.
    I think at this stage and at this time of year especially there is almost no point in believing anything in the media. Agents will just spread a well placed whisper to push prices up and away we go.

    I would tend to suspect that this Mbappe story is designed to provoke United onto going bonkers on a fee again so an agent can make 20 million quid for making up a few tweets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post
    That is literally market value.
    Have he been sold? Any realistic bids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theamerican00 View Post
    I think at this stage and at this time of year especially there is almost no point in believing anything in the media. Agents will just spread a well placed whisper to push prices up and away we go.

    I would tend to suspect that this Mbappe story is designed to provoke United onto going bonkers on a fee again so an agent can make 20 million quid for making up a few tweets.
    This. The soap opera have started
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Have he been sold?


    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    Its not only experience, its about development.
    And there is no market value. The value is set by what the potential buying club wants to pay.
    Pogba is a good example of player maybe worth half of what was paid for him.
    You said 'There is no market value. The value is set by what the buying club wants to pay. Yes, I agree. That is the definition of 'market value.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by lfcstlouis View Post




    You said 'There is no market value. The value is set by what the buying club wants to pay. Yes, I agree. That is the definition of 'market value.'
    And the market price is the price the seller have put on the market. So for now there is absolutely no way we can talk about a market value can we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LChristina View Post
    We should probably try to find the 'next' Mbappe, then. You know, before he costs the equivalent of a space station.
    That would be nice and a great idea, trouble is potential, time and patience are not our friends
    We need effective, hit the ground running types now.....

    1 trophy in 7 seasons - No league title in 27 seasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    And the market price is the price the seller have put on the market. So for now there is absolutely no way we can talk about a market value can we?
    Unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theamerican00 View Post
    I think at this stage and at this time of year especially there is almost no point in believing anything in the media. Agents will just spread a well placed whisper to push prices up and away we go.

    I would tend to suspect that this Mbappe story is designed to provoke United onto going bonkers on a fee again so an agent can make 20 million quid for making up a few tweets.
    Correct, but the thought of a few hundred manc fans choking on their cornflakes at the thought that Liverpool have stated spending like the big boys is worth the gossip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteron View Post
    That would be nice and a great idea, trouble is potential, time and patience are not our friends
    We need effective, hit the ground running types now.....

    1 trophy in 7 seasons - No league title in 27 seasons
    You could get coman for probably half the price
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    This. The soap opera have started
    Here's a good test to see whether posters follow LFC or media tittle-tattle.

    How many posters can name 11 LFC Academy players in the LFC U-23 squad?

    How many posters can name 11 U-23s of other clubs that they'd like to see at LFC coz they saw a 'link' on a twit feed.

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    Rather we signed Lacazette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    And the market price is the price the seller have put on the market. So for now there is absolutely no way we can talk about a market value can we?
    Its always been this way -
    You have the guide price - aka media valuation
    however the seller will have their own valuation
    The buyer then has a choice

    Pay the fee - haggle - walk away

    Nothing has changed except the gap between the media valuation and the sellers price - that gap is huge.... unreal in some cases
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    Lets just hope its not true and I very much doubt it is, but if it where true I think its by by Coutinhio cos thats the only way we will be spending 75m on a player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99jim View Post
    Correct, but the thought of a few hundred manc fans choking on their cornflakes at the thought that Liverpool have stated spending like the big boys is worth the gossip.
    True .. You'd wonder all the same, I'd be more confident on Keita at least if the safes being opened.
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    ... if we lose versus Brough... this summer is going to be downer. Financially it is going to hurt. We can still get a few players though. I don't think we'll ever spend like Manchester United has on individual players.


    We need new top players everywhere, really. That's the state our squad is in. We're not going to get 11 new top players this summer to compete with our current 1st 11.


    Whoever we bring in, it better not be a squad player. Stop it right now! If we need squad filler just for the sake of it, bring in our Youth players or someone on a 1-year/Bosman or something. You don't go and spend millions on someone like Klavan.



    We need to bring people in who we confidently regard as better or at least equals to our best 1st 11.


    Mbappe is probably a good player, but we only have so much money for it to be spent on one player, and our squad needs serious work, especially with a possibility for extra CL games.
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    100 pages this thread will get to and no Mbappe....
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    Well, we'll know what's up once the season starts. Discussing this won't change anything. If we actually, no jokes, try do get him during the summer, this thread will explode. For now it seems to be like any other rumor, set in motion by the usual suspects resurfacing every transfer window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LChristina View Post
    ... if we lose versus Brough... this summer is going to be downer. Financially it is going to hurt. We can still get a few players though. I don't think we'll ever spend like Manchester United has on individual players.


    We need new top players everywhere, really. That's the state our squad is in. We're not going to get 11 new top players this summer to compete with our current 1st 11.


    Whoever we bring in, it better not be a squad player. Stop it right now! If we need squad filler just for the sake of it, bring in our Youth players or someone on a 1-year/Bosman or something. You don't go and spend millions on someone like Klavan.



    We need to bring people in who we confidently regard as better or at least equals to our best 1st 11.


    Mbappe is probably a good player, but we only have so much money for it to be spent on one player, and our squad needs serious work, especially with a possibility for extra CL games.
    We will try to improve the squad. If we get any backup, it will be for positions we do not need to improve
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    Who woulda thunk Arsenal would get Sanchez..........? I'm not going to get massively optimistic, true of our chances of signing any player that we would clearly benefit from buying, but I won't write off possibilities unless we're talking those that are almost written off by default. eg of signing Ronaldo or Messi
    People will believe what they want to believe
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    Never going to happen but in a strange way it's nice to be linked.

    I'm hoping in a few years time we might be able to compete for signatures like his, but it won't be easy. It never is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    We will try to improve the squad. If we get any backup, it will be for positions we do not need to improve
    I hope so. Our current 1st teamers will become the backup if the new guys do their thing as advertised; that's how it should be at LFC; it is a crime if millions go towards mediocre players, instead let youth team players cover us in a crisis.

    We have an actual shot at getting some good players now if we can get the extra money and Top 4. It isn't the end all, be all, but it does matter.
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