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    Several people have died after a huge fire raged through the night at a west London tower block, a fire chief says.

    Eyewitnesses said they saw people trapped inside the burning Grenfell Tower, in north Kensington, screaming for help, and shouting for their children to be saved.

    More than 50 people are being treated in hospital, says London Ambulance.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40269625

    This looks awful, and what makes it worse, if that is possible, is that residents feared something like this would happen.

    Thoughts with all those affected by this terrible tragedy.
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    A couple of residents saying they expressed concerns about the safety of the block eight months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kas74 View Post
    A couple of residents saying they expressed concerns about the safety of the block eight months ago.
    https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpres...ing-with-fire/
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    Wow that is a mess from this BBC pic
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

    Hope there are not too many fatalities
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    Pretty damning stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteron View Post
    Wow that is a mess from this BBC pic
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

    Hope there are not too many fatalities
    Looking at the condition of the building you can't help fearing the worst.
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    This is horrific.
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    How can this happen in this day and age where fire safety certification is needed in all residential buildings - especially those let out to the public?

    It's such an awful tragedy but questions will need serious answering - perhaps even jail time for the building owners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Em-inLeam View Post
    How can this happen in this day and age where fire safety certification is needed in all residential buildings - especially those let out to the public?

    It's such an awful tragedy but questions will need serious answering - perhaps even jail time for the building owners.
    More robust rules and regulations are required around fire safety in these sort of residential (multiple occupancy) buildings.

    I hope that the recent cuts to local authority budgets and the fire service have not impacted on this.
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    Some amazing stories coming out already.

    Unconfirmed report of a woman dropping her baby from the 9th floor for someone on the ground to catch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhoscoch View Post
    More robust rules and regulations are required around fire safety in these sort of residential (multiple occupancy) buildings.

    I hope that the recent cuts to local authority budgets and the fire service have not impacted on this.
    Good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    Some amazing stories coming out already.

    Unconfirmed report of a woman dropping her baby from the 9th floor for someone on the ground to catch!
    Awful.
    Last edited by redhoops; 17-8-17 at 04:24.
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    Rydon, the company who made the renovations to the tower have taken down the case study from their website this morning. Trying to hide something?

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170614...grenfell-tower
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    Some amazing stories coming out already.

    Unconfirmed report of a woman dropping her baby from the 9th floor for someone on the ground to catch!
    These incidents bring so many stories, amazing, heart warming, inspiring along side tragic and pertinently sad tales.

    Awful news to wake up to..
    dont look back in anger.
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    Seen this on the news this morning. Absolutely heartbreaking to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhoscoch View Post
    More robust rules and regulations are required around fire safety in these sort of residential (multiple occupancy) buildings.

    I hope that the recent cuts to local authority budgets and the fire service have not impacted on this.
    No doubt the blame will be put on cuts, but it depends on what the council spent the money on instead. Safety should always take priority over everything else.
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    Met police say 6 people killed. Poor souls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kipg9n View Post
    Met police say 6 people killed. Poor souls.
    "Figure likely to rise"
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    "Figure likely to rise"
    I'll be amazed if less than 20 have died. Really depends on how quickly residents were made aware, and also whether they stuck to this stay put policy in place, or if they instinctively tried to escape. The fire brigade did rescue a lot of people, thankfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    "Figure likely to rise"
    By Grace of God, I hope it don't.
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    Combustible cladding materials used on the outside of the building likely to have caused the rapid spread of the fire, according to a fire expert. People need stringing up for that, whatever the cause of the fire. A witness said in the refurb, this cladding replaced concrete material, but there was a gap at the ends of the building, which he reckoned acted as a chimney.

    All speculation at the moment, but it's obvious that however this fire started, the way it spread and engulfed the building has contributed to the terrible loss of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPGIRL1971 View Post
    Combustible cladding materials used on the outside of the building likely to have caused the rapid spread of the fire, according to a fire expert. People need stringing up for that, whatever the cause of the fire. A witness said in the refurb, this cladding replaced concrete material, but there was a gap at the ends of the building, which he reckoned acted as a chimney.

    All speculation at the moment, but it's obvious that however this fire started, the way it spread and engulfed the building has contributed to the terrible loss of life.
    Which explains why the contractor who put up the cladding have removed the case study from their site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Em-inLeam View Post
    Which explains why the contractor who put up the cladding have removed the case study from their site.
    I was under the impression those materials had been banned, so I am surprised they are involved here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    "Figure likely to rise"
    It would be an absolute miracle if the death toll remains at that number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPGIRL1971 View Post
    Combustible cladding materials used on the outside of the building likely to have caused the rapid spread of the fire, according to a fire expert. People need stringing up for that, whatever the cause of the fire. A witness said in the refurb, this cladding replaced concrete material, but there was a gap at the ends of the building, which he reckoned acted as a chimney.

    All speculation at the moment, but it's obvious that however this fire started, the way it spread and engulfed the building has contributed to the terrible loss of life.
    some guy said his neighbour said his fridge blew up . as an domestic appliance engineer , i dont touch fridges any more . the gas they use is butane inside , be like a bomb ,,crazy speculation of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPGIRL1971 View Post
    I was under the impression those materials had been banned, so I am surprised they are involved here.
    Just seen this article -

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6809691.html

    The Tories actually voted against proposed new laws by the shadow cabinet to make sure rented homes are safe and fit for human habitation.

    This was because many on the Tory MP's felt the rules would introduce too much red-tape for their own private rented properties. Looking out for themselves rather than the public as always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnj147 View Post
    some guy said his neighbour said his fridge blew up . as an domestic appliance engineer , i dont touch fridges any more . the gas they use is butane inside , be like a bomb ,,crazy speculation of course
    I saw that full interview and something didn't add up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnj147 View Post
    some guy said his neighbour said his fridge blew up . as an domestic appliance engineer , i dont touch fridges any more . the gas they use is butane inside , be like a bomb ,,crazy speculation of course
    I used to work in a cafe where another member of staff moved the fridge to a more "convenient" position.It was jammed up against a wall, no air was able to circulate around the back of it and it actually burst into flames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher View Post
    Some amazing stories coming out already.

    Unconfirmed report of a woman dropping her baby from the 9th floor for someone on the ground to catch!
    heart breaking. What a parent must go through to come to the realisation that dropping their baby from the 9th floor will give them a better chance of survival. so sad.

    Prayers and well wishes go out to everyone involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPGIRL1971 View Post
    No doubt the blame will be put on cuts, but it depends on what the council spent the money on instead. Safety should always take priority over everything else.
    What?

    How about the fact that just last year the Tories voted against a Labour bill to make it law that rented accommodation should be fit for human habitation. What does that sound like it prioritises to you? Safety? No...Money, the Conservative God.
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