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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    What in the actual **** are you raving on about?
    I'm not raving about anything. I'm saying that angels quite often kill people in the bible.
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    Amber Rudd this is now being investigated as a terror incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMelwoodMole View Post
    Amber Rudd this is now being investigated as a terror incident.
    The police declared it a terror attack 8mins after the first 999 call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonStauffenberg View Post
    So do you think your username could be seen by some as inappropriate?
    no, not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batteries View Post
    Always the case when a Caucasian male commits an atrocity.
    isn't that how some would report it if it was in a church in Charleston or a Sikh temple in Oak Creek WI.


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    Fox News report. I was shocked by the way it was reported and not how most of you will imagine.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06...terrorism.html

    They used phrases like a caucausian man was detained and the motivations seemed to be Islamophobia.

    Whilst it may not be fully fair and balanced (although they have dropped that tag line) it looks like it is a step in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    The police declared it a terror attack 8mins after the first 999 call.
    Not really they said a van collided with a bunch of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelYNWA View Post
    no, not really.
    OK then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMelwoodMole View Post
    Not really they said a van collided with a bunch of people.
    Ok...so May just made that up...live on TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    Ok...so May just made that up...live on TV.
    I was up from the time the incident happened. If you watched the BBC news and the scotland yards message you would've seen what they were describing the incident as.

    Van collides with people
    Van hits people
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMelwoodMole View Post
    I was up from the time the incident happened. If you watched the BBC news and the scotland yards message you would've seen what they were describing the incident as.

    Van collides with people
    Van hits people
    That doesn't mean they weren't treating it as terrorism...there is always a period after an attack like this where the police will not publicly say whether it's a terror incident.

    It doesn't mean they aren't treating it as such internally.

    As I said...unless May was lying outside number 10...the police called it within 8 mins.
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    wtf is going on man
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    That doesn't mean they weren't treating it as terrorism...there is always a period after an attack like this where the police will not publicly say whether it's a terror incident.

    It doesn't mean they aren't treating it as such internally.

    As I said...unless May was lying outside number 10...the police called it within 8 mins.
    Anyways, what is with all these attacks and tragedies mate. As a human being, a londoner and a Muslim it's becoming unbearable I hope we can all find some peace amongst everyone of us.
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    Thought and prayers with all. It is crazy how often this is beginning to happen now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnj147 View Post
    wtf is going on man
    Most people wouldn't believe it if you told them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMelwoodMole View Post
    Anyways, what is with all these attacks and tragedies mate. As a human being, a londoner and a Muslim it's becoming unbearable I hope we can all find some peace amongst everyone of us.
    The world has gone to hell mate.

    It feels like it did under Thatcher...cold war...actual war...IRA...cuts and poverty...civil unrest.

    And the media stirring it all up.

    Unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMelwoodMole View Post
    Anyways, what is with all these attacks and tragedies mate. As a human being, a londoner and a Muslim it's becoming unbearable I hope we can all find some peace amongst everyone of us.
    well said ,,
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    How comes Sky are reporting other news.

    When the other terrorist attacks happened, Sky dedicated the whole 24 hours of the day and the following days to the story, with reporters live from the scene, big breaking news banner in centre of screen. Now when it's white person attacking Muslims. Stuck in a studio reporting on other stories, people tuning in won't know until the yellow breaking news ticker at the bottom eventually gets to the story.


    Quote Originally Posted by WilbertoSilva View Post
    Revenge against normal, innocent people going about their lives
    Well the people killed in the Westminster, Manchester and London Bridge attackers were normal, innocent people going about their lives too. So in their warped mind it is revenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelYNWA View Post
    nope, just two sides of the same arsecheek of extremism.
    Spot on. I think it was Brendan Cox (widow of Jo Cox) who said the other day that rw extremists and Islamic extremists have more in common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euro-77-78-81-84-05 View Post
    How comes Sky are reporting other news.

    When the other terrorist attacks happened, Sky dedicated the whole 24 hours of the day and the following days to the story, with reporters live from the scene, big breaking news banner in centre of screen. Now when it's white person attacking Muslims. Stuck in a studio reporting on other stories, people tuning in won't know until the yellow breaking news ticker at the bottom eventually gets to the story.




    Well the people killed in the Westminster, Manchester and London Bridge attackers were normal, innocent people going about their lives too. So in their warped mind it is revenge.
    Good point. It was saturation coverage before wasnt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euro-77-78-81-84-05 View Post
    How comes Sky are reporting other news.

    When the other terrorist attacks happened, Sky dedicated the whole 24 hours of the day and the following days to the story, with reporters live from the scene, big breaking news banner in centre of screen. Now when it's white person attacking Muslims. Stuck in a studio reporting on other stories, people tuning in won't know until the yellow breaking news ticker at the bottom eventually gets to the story.




    Well the people killed in the Westminster, Manchester and London Bridge attackers were normal, innocent people going about their lives too. So in their warped mind it is revenge.
    Our says governments dropped a bombs in Raqqa that killed 300 innocent civilians many women and children.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN19511O

    No coverage. Western forces have killed 4 million Muslims and the majority have been been terrorists

    http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/...ims-since-1990

    We're placing the Muslim world in a very difficult position. How do they stop our governments and military slaughtering millions of innocent Muslims? One attempt is to do so with violence. Unfortunately that kills innocent Westerners who didn't want their governments to slaughter Muslims in the first place.

    That in turns has now created one of the 'innocent' Western civilians to think the way to combat terrorism is with violence. It is a cycle of violence that can only be stopped by our governments actions changing. We can't defend against it and we can't stop it unless we change the conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingsandouts View Post
    Thought and prayers with all. It is crazy how often this is beginning to happen now.
    this is exactly what the extremists want, all of us fighting amonst ourselves.
    dont look back in anger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euro-77-78-81-84-05 View Post
    How comes Sky are reporting other news.

    When the other terrorist attacks happened, Sky dedicated the whole 24 hours of the day and the following days to the story, with reporters live from the scene, big breaking news banner in centre of screen. Now when it's white person attacking Muslims. Stuck in a studio reporting on other stories, people tuning in won't know until the yellow breaking news ticker at the bottom eventually gets to the story.




    Well the people killed in the Westminster, Manchester and London Bridge attackers were normal, innocent people going about their lives too. So in their warped mind it is revenge.
    that is a very good question mate
    dont look back in anger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylesbyred View Post
    this is exactly what the extremists want, all of us fighting amonst ourselves.
    The extremists on which side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach791 View Post
    The extremists on which side?
    islamic extremists will love the fact they are fueling more atrocities without having to do any work...
    dont look back in anger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylesbyred View Post
    islamic extremists will love the fact they are fueling more atrocities without having to do any work...
    I'd suggest you are right. I would also suggest Western capitalist extremists also love the fact we're fighting amongst ourselves. Our governments are extremists also. Training terrorists, imposing brutal regimes so profiteers can extract resources, dropping bombs, killing 4 millions Muslims.

    I'd say that's pretty extreme. We will be shown the crimes of their extremists. The Muslim population will have radicalisation techniques pushed on them to be shown our crimes and the plan is to get all the innocent people caught up in it whilst those in governments and power stay in safety.

    Both sides have the exact same tactics. Stir up fear so others will fight for them. Tell them they are right and other side evil. Doesn't matter of soldier, terrorist or civilian the tactics the same.

    The person who committed this act will likely believe they did it to protect, fight back against the enemy. There's one thing common in all terrorists. They believe they're the good guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylesbyred View Post
    this is exactly what the extremists want, all of us fighting amonst ourselves.
    It baffles me how some people think that alienating and discriminating against ordinary innocent muslims will somehow decrease extremism. That's exactly what extremists want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder87 View Post
    It baffles me how some people think that alienating and discriminating against ordinary innocent muslims will somehow decrease extremism. That's exactly what extremists want.
    It is, but the people are fed up with ordinary innocent UK people being killed in a string of terrorist atrocities by muslims.

    Poke the dog with a stick long enough and it will bite back. I'm just surprised taken this long.

    It was always going to come to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPGIRL1971 View Post
    It is, but the people are fed up with ordinary innocent UK people being killed in a string of terrorist atrocities by muslims.

    Poke the dog with a stick long enough and it will bite back. I'm just surprised taken this long.

    It was always going to come to this.
    You mean ISIS or terrorist groups using the Muslim faith as an umbrella to do it under I presume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by welshypool View Post
    You mean ISIS or terrorist groups using the Muslim faith as an umbrella to do it under I presume?
    No, British muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPGIRL1971 View Post
    It is, but the people are fed up with ordinary innocent UK people being killed in a string of terrorist atrocities by muslims.

    Poke the dog with a stick long enough and it will bite back. I'm just surprised taken this long.

    It was always going to come to this.
    The people?

    Are you serious.
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