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    Seems like a few outlets have now reported this:

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    Guardian

    In summary Sky are doing away with their numbered channels and replacing them with sport specific channels, it will mean you can pay for just football if that's all you're interested in (me). There is also mention of a price drop and 18 in the articles, but it doesn't say this is for the football channel(s) they think there will be two of them.

    I remember reading this article and thinking now it's hitting Murdoch in the pocket he'll have to act and it seems like they have sensibly. The PR from Sky will probably be that they are moving with the times like Netflix and Amazon, but the reality is they've pushed the boat out too far, and most people below the age of 50 (and plenty older) have no issue finding streams or going down the pub rather than paying the current ludicrous prices.

    I'm hoping this will reduce NOW TV pass prices too, but that's too much to hope for.

    What do people think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LovelyCushionedHeader View Post
    Seems like a few outlets have now reported this:

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    Guardian

    In summary Sky are doing away with their numbered channels and replacing them with sport specific channels, it will mean you can pay for just football if that's all you're interested in (me). There is also mention of a price drop and 18 in the articles, but it doesn't say this is for the football channel(s) they think there will be two of them.

    I remember reading this article and thinking now it's hitting Murdoch in the pocket he'll have to act and it seems like they have sensibly. The PR from Sky will probably be that they are moving with the times like Netflix and Amazon, but the reality is they've pushed the boat out too far, and most people below the age of 50 (and plenty older) have no issue finding streams or going down the pub rather than paying the current ludicrous prices.

    I'm hoping this will reduce NOW TV pass prices too, but that's too much to hope for.

    What do people think?
    I think if you only watch footie it may end up cheaper...but someone else will be paying for that.

    Sky don't do cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    I think if you only watch footie it may end up cheaper...but someone else will be paying for that.

    Sky don't do cheap.
    Exactly. Regardless of how this is structured, they still continually bend us all over.
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    I just wrote elsewhere how I really want to watch LFC games. I don't want football. Watching chelski v Bournemouth has no interest for me. Maybe that will come and LFC will instantly be much richer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    I think if you only watch footie it may end up cheaper...but someone else will be paying for that.

    Sky don't do cheap.
    Oh definitely, and those people being fleeced are the people who want all the sports. When you consider though Sky have up until a few years ago enjoyed a monopoly as big as the companies that rent out Uni graduation robes, as there is no alternative.

    It may not be huge, but it's a chink in their armour.

    I haven't got Sky Sports in my flat, and my parents don't, but 18 a month for two football channels I'd pay in theory.
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    A side topic, but I think after this changes the 3 o'clock black out rule may be wiped out, but the backlash from the football league would be gigantic, so there would have to be some structure to help them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edinburgher View Post
    I just wrote elsewhere how I really want to watch LFC games. I don't want football. Watching chelski v Bournemouth has no interest for me. Maybe that will come and LFC will instantly be much richer.
    Not sure there would be a sustainable way to do that, or any appetite for it in the future.
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    NBC is bringing out a subscription called premier league pass I believe and you don't have to be a cable owner to access it. Lets just hope it's as good as the previous NZ premier league pass that was shut down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LovelyCushionedHeader View Post
    Not sure there would be a sustainable way to do that, or any appetite for it in the future.
    Sky should just follow the NBC model of allowing fans in the UK, the home of football to watch any game they like at 3pm. It's ridiculous that us fans basically built the EPL with our money over the years yet our American cousins get better footage and options than us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BullishBull View Post
    Sky should just follow the NBC model of allowing fans in the UK, the home of football to watch any game they like at 3pm. It's ridiculous that us fans basically built the EPL with our money over the years yet our American cousins get better footage and options than us.
    It could in theory have a hugely negative impact on the football league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LovelyCushionedHeader View Post
    It could in theory have a hugely negative impact on the football league.
    The lower leagues? IMO, the lower leagues will always attract their type of fans, often they are the most passionate and dedicated. I mean who would travel up and down the country as a Scunthorpe fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BullishBull View Post
    The lower leagues? IMO, the lower leagues will always attract their type of fans, often they are the most passionate and dedicated. I mean who would travel up and down the country as a Scunthorpe fan.
    Yes the lower leagues. The worry is that on a *********** day in November some of their fans may opt to stay in and watch Chelsea Newcastle at 3pm rather than their local side. Outside of the PL bubble those clubs rely on ticket sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LovelyCushionedHeader View Post
    Yes the lower leagues. The worry is that on a *********** day in November some of their fans may opt to stay in and watch Chelsea Newcastle at 3pm rather than their local side. Outside of the PL bubble those clubs rely on ticket sales.
    It's a risk but this current Sky model can't last forever. People want to watch their own team play whenever they play, that's why they resort to using foreign subscriptions, streams and other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LovelyCushionedHeader View Post
    A side topic, but I think after this changes the 3 o'clock black out rule may be wiped out, but the backlash from the football league would be gigantic, so there would have to be some structure to help them.
    I can see 3pm kickoffs for the PL being scrapped rather than the 3pm rule being binned.

    With all the extra PL games on TV next season, there will be very few PL games played at 3pm anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BullishBull View Post
    It's a risk but this current Sky model can't last forever. People want to watch their own team play whenever they play, that's why they resort to using foreign subscriptions, streams and other things.
    You're missing my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrottonRed View Post
    I can see 3pm kickoffs for the PL being scrapped rather than the 3pm rule being binned.

    With all the extra PL games on TV next season, there will be very few PL games played at 3pm anyway.
    Yeah think there were rumours of a Saturday night kick off, and there will probably be more Fridays this season. Just means a reduction in viewers for Gillette ************* Saturday.
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    Still the issue of CL and some games being on BT Sport. Would be better if we could just have one Liverpool channel!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbieflowerpot View Post
    Still the issue of CL and some games being on BT Sport. Would be better if we could just have one Liverpool channel!!
    I honestly don't think it would work.
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    its a step. but will sky hide it behind something else that you have to buy to access it, likely. the future is web based and soon as google, facebook get all the kinks out they could well make bids for football and i don't think sky/bt could compete against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf kal View Post
    its a step. but will sky hide it behind something else that you have to buy to access it, likely. the future is web based and soon as google, facebook get all the kinks out they could well make bids for football and i don't think sky/bt could compete against them.
    Exactly as I see it, a step.

    I don't think we're too far away from the likes of Netflix bidding for shows too and live streaming, what I think you can say after reading the second article in my op is that the days of a Sky Digital dish or the pub being your only options to watch football on tv are gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbieflowerpot View Post
    Still the issue of CL and some games being on BT Sport. Would be better if we could just have one Liverpool channel!!
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    I honestly don't think it would work.
    Well without being rude. You're wrong.

    All the big clubs across Europe either have it or want it.
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    I don;t know the ins and outs but anyone who thinks Sky is doing this to benefit their customers and that it will lead to price reductions needs their bumps feeling, I doubt it very much, Sky is a business oure and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edinburgher View Post
    I just wrote elsewhere how I really want to watch LFC games. I don't want football. Watching chelski v Bournemouth has no interest for me. Maybe that will come and LFC will instantly be much richer.
    Same here,I'd love a channel showing nothing but Liverpool games.
    It'll never happen but a football only channel would be a good start.
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    Aren't sky being taken over by fox? Whatever that's got to do with anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kas74 View Post
    Same here,I'd love a channel showing nothing but Liverpool games.
    It'll never happen but a football only channel would be a good start.
    I also agree, when I first signed up for LFC I (naively) was astonished that LFC (or any specific club) are not allowed to show their own games .

    It's still a bit bizarre, but I know very little of the business world.
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    It used to be good when you could buy individual games (albeit more expensive per game if you watch any football you can). 5.00 a game I'd be all over, for example and would probably end up spending just as much but psychologically it wouldn't feel like it - which is how my finances operate generally. Overpay with the feeling I'm in control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raf_the_laf View Post
    I also agree, when I first signed up for LFC I (naively) was astonished that LFC (or any specific club) are not allowed to show their own games .

    It's still a bit bizarre, but I know very little of the business world.
    But if sky are paying the pl to show our games, why would we (I'm assuming LFC owns LFC TV) pay that money, just to have exclusive access on our channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    But if sky are paying the pl to show our games, why would we (I'm assuming LFC owns LFC TV) pay that money, just to have exclusive access on our channel.
    It just seems in my (I acknowledge, oversimplified) view that the main thing about a football team (amongst other things) is watching the games! So each team will try and cater so that their supporters can see their games. So each club should have the right to pay a certain amount to the premier league for their own games, and then the supporters of each team pay their club to watch all the games. Sounds simple!
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    I have not got to grips with this impending change but one thing I believe is pretty certain, it will be more expensive to exactly what we have today. Sky are always looking how to increase their income. They are public company who trade on the fact they need to increase subs and revenue otherwise their shares fall. Eventually SKY will exit the stockmarket, not soon mind you but in the very long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Ottershaw View Post
    I have not got to grips with this impending change but one thing I believe is pretty certain, it will be more expensive to exactly what we have today. Sky are always looking how to increase their income. They are public company who trade on the fact they need to increase subs and revenue otherwise their shares fall. Eventually SKY will exit the stockmarket, not soon mind you but in the very long term.
    I think they are introducing these measures in fear of losing their customers and also trying to gain back the ones that they have already lost. Sky wouldn't introduce these changes if everything was rosy.
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