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    Their signings are the type of signings we would make under Rodgers.
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    No.

    They will come 7th at best.
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    People seem to be forgetting that Lukaku is goner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    Yes but the aim for us isn't top six, it's a title challenge.
    So are Everton aiming for top 6 then? are then spending the best part of 100m to move up one place in the league?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BearWithMe View Post
    So are Everton aiming for top 6 then? are then spending the best part of 100m to move up one place in the league?
    At least one place in the league is presumably the ambition. And given the gap in quality between the teams placed sixth and seventh last season they might have to spend at least that to stand a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmreSam View Post
    Long answer:

    Pickford
    Coleman-Williams-Keane-Baines
    Schneiderlin-Gueye
    Klassen
    Bolasie-Sandro-Mirallas?


    Ederson
    Walker-Kompany-Stones-Mendy
    Gundogan-De Bruyne
    Silva
    B. Silva-Aguero-Alexis


    De Gea
    Valencia-Bailly-Lindelof-Shaw
    Matic
    Herrera-Pogba
    Mkhitaryan-Morata-Martial


    Lloris
    Trippier-Alderweireld-Vertonghen-Rose
    Dembele-Wanyama
    Alli
    Eriksen-Kane-Son


    Courtois
    Bonucci-Rudiger-Luiz
    Azpi--------------------Sandro
    Kante-Bakayoko
    Pedro------------Hazard
    Lukaku


    Mignolet
    Clyne-Matip-Van Dijk-Robertson
    Can
    Keita-Coutinho
    Mane-Firmino-Salah


    Cech
    Holding-Koscielny-Mustafi
    Bellerin----------------------Kolasinac
    Ramsey-Xhaka
    Ozil-----------Mahrez
    Lacazette



    Short answer: No.
    When you look at this - the only two of their starting 11 (presuming Lukaku is off to Chelsea) that you'd imagine being automatic regulars for any of the other top teams are the fullbacks - and Coleman is out until after Christmas (probably) while Baines is 32 and has, at best, managed only 30-odd games a season for the last four years.

    It'll be interesting to see how Klassen does and they do have some talented youngsters. But sixth is surely the best they can manage and even then they'll need to have their best possible season and hope someone else struggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BearWithMe View Post
    Also if we'd signed Keane and Pickford for 60m this place would have imploded.
    Absolu - ******* - lutely
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    Before anyone starts, I'm not obsessed about them or anything like that. I just thought I'd start a thread about them, seeing they've signed so many players and are talking themselves up

    I actually think they've made some sensible signings so far. Pickford could be their keeper for the next 10 year's. Keane and Sandro look decent signings as well

    Can they break into that top 6? They can, of course they can. Everything's got to click right into place for them to do that though, and still could lose Lukaku. I think it's going to be an interesting season for them, either way. Thanks a lot.
    They won't

    They'll finish top 8 and be a difficult away game for anyone

    But they won't break the top 6 - can't see any of their signings getting into the Top 6's first teams
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    Can they? Possible.

    Will they? Unlikely.

    We finished 8th season before last and Leicester won the league, so anything is possible.

    However, all the current top 6 sides look strong and relatively settled. Klopp will be in his second full season, so will Mourinho and Pep. Chelsea and Spurs will continue to be title contenders.

    The biggest question mark is Arsenal I suppose - how will they do with Wenger still at the helm? Despite their poor season they were still only 1 point off 4th.
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    No. Thread done.
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    I'd say only if one of the current ones "collapses" next season.

    Of the players they've bought whose walking into the other top 6 teams?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LovelyCushionedHeader View Post
    I'd say only if one of the current ones "collapses" next season.

    Of the players they've bought whose walking into the other top 6 teams?
    According to them Pickford, Keane and Klaasen all walk into ours
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    Quote Originally Posted by BearWithMe View Post
    Also if we'd signed Keane and Pickford for 60m this place would have imploded.
    Pickford is worth every pound they spent. He will be England's number one keeper in two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klopphopper View Post
    Pickford is worth every pound they spent. He will be England's number one keeper in two years.
    The **** does being England's number 1 mean? He'll concede the goal Honduras score to knock them out of the world cup?

    He's also not better than Butland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klopphopper View Post
    Pickford is worth every pound they spent. He will be England's number one keeper in two years.
    Quote Originally Posted by LovelyCushionedHeader View Post
    The **** does being England's number 1 mean? He'll concede the goal Honduras score to knock them out of the world cup?

    He's also not better than Butland.
    Goalkeepers, even more than most players, are really hard to judge but I thought this was a good attempt at analysis of Pickford's performance last season that suggested he might be a very good buy.

    As it points out shots saved is a poor reflection of keeper quality (it's more closely linked to shots faced) but Pickford scores well in terms of the quality of shots saved and his distribution (though it would be interesting to see how he coped in a team that moved the ball out from the back - probably not something he'll have to worry about at Everton).

    What is interesting is how badly Mignolet does in terms of the quality of shots faced in this analysis - I'd have had him down as a better shot-stopper than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klopphopper View Post
    Pickford is worth every pound they spent. He will be England's number one keeper in two years.
    Don't even pretend that you wouldn't be raging if we had got him for that price
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinmc View Post
    Goalkeepers, even more than most players, are really hard to judge but I thought this was a good attempt at analysis of Pickford's performance last season that suggested he might be a very good buy.

    As it points out shots saved is a poor reflection of keeper quality (it's more closely linked to shots faced) but Pickford scores well in terms of the quality of shots saved and his distribution (though it would be interesting to see how he coped in a team that moved the ball out from the back - probably not something he'll have to worry about at Everton).

    What is interesting is how badly Mignolet does in terms of the quality of shots faced in this analysis - I'd have had him down as a better shot-stopper than that.
    I am less inclined to take notice of all these pretty charts and graphs and trust what my eyes tell me, Pickford is worse than Joe Harte and that is saying something, Everton had a dodgy keeper last year and they have spent 25-30 million just to get an English version of the same standard.

    There is no question that Mignolet displayed a much improved and composed display towards the end of the season, those charts would have you believe he was amongst the worst keepers around rather than the opposite being true since the turn of the year.
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    Of course they can. If Leicester can win the league then just about anything can happen.

    One thing I do know tho is it won't be at the expense of us.
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    I'm not sure Rooney would be a good signing for them. It might get them excited because of the name and the return, but he would slow them down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    I'm not sure Rooney would be a good signing for them. It might get them excited because of the name and the return, but he would slow them down.
    Yup - agree

    He needs to be put out to pasture in America IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'mCushtyLa View Post
    Yup - agree

    He needs to be put out to pasture in America IMO
    Is that always been your username, or did you change it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraclesArePossible View Post
    Yes but the aim for us isn't top six, it's a title challenge.


    Don't think it is for them either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    I'm not sure Rooney would be a good signing for them. It might get them excited because of the name and the return, but he would slow them down.
    If they signed him over Giroud they'd be mental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenpressing View Post
    Is that always been your username, or did you change it?
    Changed it a few times

    I heard the Anfield Rap though the other day for the first time in ages so......
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'mCushtyLa View Post
    Changed it a few times

    I heard the Anfield Rap though the other day for the first time in ages so......
    That was McMahon's line, I believe.
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    Nae chance.

    For me, Liverpool, United and City are bound to improve next season and Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs won't drop off by much, if at all.

    Even if they magically keep hold of Lukaku there's no room for the Ev.
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    Barring a collapse from one of the others, no.
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